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08-11-2004, 05:56 PM
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 ), I'd prefer a Stevie solo album. After working at such a complex CD as Say You Will, and be on a year and a half world tour, I'm curious to see at what point she is as a singer and as a songwriter, indipendently from Fleetwood Mac. Quote:
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08-11-2004, 06:16 PM
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 You know, people falling in love with her, illicit liaisons, and so forth...  AMber
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08-11-2004, 09:08 PM
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08-11-2004, 09:19 PM
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 absolutely they're equal in my mind.
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08-11-2004, 09:51 PM
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08-11-2004, 10:32 PM
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I'm sort of more interested in a Stevie solo record right now too. I have been listening to Shangri La over and over and over again and could sing you the whole album from front to back blindfolded! I can't get enough of Bombay Saphires (especially the line "I could take you higher!")
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08-11-2004, 10:36 PM
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The point I am trying to make is that Lindsey is held up on a pedestal on the Ledge boards and everyone acts like Stevie is overrated or something. While Stevie is made fun of until the cows come home, Lindsey is like this royal member of the band. It makes me want to puke! In Conclusion... Stevie Rules!!!!
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08-11-2004, 11:17 PM
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 We can take it!  As for my response to Christopher's earlier question, I too prefer Stevie. I love Lindsey, respect him greatly as a producer, am endlessly impressed by his playing, and am thankful that he is part of the Mac, because it is all the more interesting with his songwriting included, but I don't love him as much as I love Stevie. (I'm making it sound like I know these people! ) Stevie touches me on a very personal level, and I prefer her lyrics over his very much. And, shameful as it is, I have to say that I have a tendency to like female artists more. Hillary
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08-11-2004, 11:27 PM
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08-11-2004, 11:31 PM
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Not so much you, Johnny, but many. Basically, this is all just fun. I like hearing everyone's opinions, and frankly the personalities of the posters are of relentless entertainment value. I do take the music pretty seriously. But, for God's sake, these are people we're talking about. I don't see them as dieties or more than human. It just so happens that my personality is to call garbage garbage, and art art. I enjoy doing that, and hearing the how and why of other people's thought processes in experiencing the music. If someone makes fun of anyone in this band, I do not take personal offense. They have all done historically great music and sometimes outright crap. Most artists have. Plus, most of them have a host of scandalous or remarkable behaviour that is fascinating too. It's ENTERTAINMENT. In oh so many ways !
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08-12-2004, 07:47 AM
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It's as if people around here take comments like that seriously when they're just jokes and ways to pass time on this board.
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08-12-2004, 08:28 AM
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 This is what I find ridiculous, and I'm sure Le Stew would agree with me. I make no bones about being a huge Lindsey fan. Just like a lot of other people on this board, I started off as a huge Stevie fan and then "converted." I do think he's a genius, just as I think Stevie is genius when it comes to lyrics and vocals. I love both Lindsey and Stevie, Lindsey more, but of course they're both going to have material that I simply do not care for. In the case of Stevie, she's put out a lot more material over the years than Lindsey, so she's more than likely going to have more stuff that I dislike, namely SA, some of RAL, and her Tango stuff. Now, as much as I like Stevie, every time anyone expresses any sort of criticism towards her, they're shot down and considered crazy. Fact is, not everything she's done is great, IMO. I think she gets stuck in lots of ruts and just stews in the same thing for ages when it comes to her music. She isn't adventurous and always sticks with the same formula; she's too safe and wants to be too commerical too often. Doesn't change the quality of the lyrics or the quality of her voice, but it can get a bit rote for me. I still love *most* of it, but there's just some stuff that I find terrible. Doesn't make me any less of a fan, whether you agree or not. Then you have Lindsey, who doesn't stick to any formula. He does what he wants and doesn't hold back. Sometimes it makes for stellar music, sometimes not. But it's his willingness to experiment and the quality of it all that I find so appealing. To me, when I look at Stevie's music, I see a pattern to it. With each progressive album, she caters more and more to public tastes, the pinnacle being the Street Angel album which was so devoid of any emotion that I can't bear listening to it. I can't blame her for wanting to sell tons of records, but I just wish she'd challenge herself more. We all know she can do it, just look at Illume; one of her most out-of-left-field songs. She needs to breathe more life into her music, which I submit she can based on parts of TISL and SYW. There are plenty of things I don't like about Lindsey. He mumbles too many lyrics, gets a bit too self-indulgent (Street of Dreams and Come), goes overboard on the production sometimes, and noodles too much on some songs (Bleed To Love Her...ugh). But, just like with Stevie, it doesn't make the music necessarily bad. Almost every song of theirs has at least one redeeming value (I said almost, I didn't let WISYA or some of those GOS songs off the hook) because they're the ones at the wheel. I think a lot of people around here simply forget why we're all here: because we're fans of this band. But just because we're fans, we don't have to worship at the Temple of La Nicks or the Temple of Liddy Buck. We don't have to throw around labels like "The Queen of Rock" to prove our points because, in all honesty, labels like those are subjective and just end up turning people off. It makes people look like blind worshippers, which I'm sure they're not, and has no service in these discussions. As much as I'd love to, I don't trot around the board proclaiming Lindsey "The King of All Music." Why? Because it's all subjective and just because I love Lindsey, it doesn't mean others do. I accept that, even though there are fans of both Stevie and Lindsey who are simply dead-set against giving the other credit for anything. It's absurd and provides for much comic relief. People like who they like, it's as simple as that and everyone needs to accept that. Just because someone says some Stevie material is awful or because they say Law and Order is a terrible excuse for an album, or even if they make some comment or barb about the work of some band members, it doesn't give everyone free reign to belittle those opinions by labeling someone as a Stevie or Lindsey "hater." I see a lot of people complain about how they're so sick of the negative comments and blah blah blah, but the fact of the matter is that any criticism can be construed as negative and they're the ones dwelling ont he negative when they choose to post posts completely relating to what they see as negativity from others. What you've done with your post above, Christopher, is belittle fans of Lindsey by making it seem as if they think he's a god. He's not, he's a musician. He has no title like King or Prince, he's just a freaking musician. To say that his fans put him on a pedestal and then turn around and call Stevie a Queen is, in my opinion, hypocritical and short-sighted. Like who you like, enjoy the music, and discuss the music however you feel you need to discuss it. [/end rant]
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