Smile at You on AOL - Page 5

Johnny Stew · #61 03-17-2003, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by CarneVaca
Not quite, Johnny. It's one thing to say "ain't gonna" or to use a double negative for effect. To use "ran" when it should obviously be "run" smacks of ignorance, or at the very least, carelessness.

I dunno... I was taught that a double-negative is as big of a grammatical infraction as anything.
In fact, one of my English teachers had a massive pet-peeve where double-negatives were concerned, and I guess that was sort of passed on to me.

Still, in the spirit of rock 'n roll, anything goes... so I tend to look past grammatical missteps, and just chalk it up to what works within the context of the lyrical scheme and melody.
It makes for a much happier (and less uptight!) listening experience!

Johnny Stew

Alison · #62 03-17-2003, 03:59 PM

sulamith.. I think this is the final of this song. I really think Lindsey did a great job. It's fresh and exciting. I hope they do this one live, it would fit with silver springs for sure.
I love lindseys spanish sounding guitar.
I love how Stevie sings this.
You will probably hear more on a better sounding clip.
I think this one could be a hit, how about you?

sulamith · #63 03-17-2003, 04:03 PM

Thanks, Alison, as I just read on another board, since AOL released it, I guess it must be the finished version.

I'm sitting on my hands and waiting.
I want to hear it when I can binge on the whole CD.
That is, unless I hear it on the radio before then, which I don't think is likely.......ever.

Thanks!

I'm enjoying reading the feedback, though.

-Sharon

CarneVaca · #64 03-17-2003, 04:13 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Johnny Stew
I dunno

I agree with you there.

Bella Figura · #65 03-17-2003, 04:31 PM

grammar is not marring my enjoyment of the song. I've had it on replay for over an hour now...

but I'm still glad I have the "angry version" demo

Nightbird_Brett · #66 03-17-2003, 05:44 PM

I absolutely love this version. The angry version is still my fave but this one is great too! I knew Stevie still had it in her. I like Lindsey's part as well.

Oh...just have to say...I think it is understandable to notice grammar in ballads, showtunes, etc. But to notice grammar in a rock song, one must not fully appreciate rock and roll.

gldstwmn · #67 03-17-2003, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Nightbird_Brett
I absolutely love this version. The angry version is still my fave but this one is great too! I knew Stevie still had it in her. I like Lindsey's part as well.

Oh...just have to say...I think it is understandable to notice grammar in ballads, showtunes, etc. But to notice grammar in a rock song, one must not fully appreciate rock and roll.

I agree. What exactly is Stevie saying at the end of Sisters Of The Moon in the Mirage Video? I have no idea but I love it anyway.

Sugar · #68 03-17-2003, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Nightbird_Brett
But to notice grammar in a rock song, one must not fully appreciate rock and roll.

sodascouts · #69 03-17-2003, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Nightbird_Brett
But to notice grammar in a rock song, one must not fully appreciate rock and roll.

I admit it! I am uncool! :: sob ::

jwd · #70 03-17-2003, 07:30 PM

Latest feedback on the song :

48% like it
38% love it
14% hate it

Not faring quite as well as Peacekeeper did in the AOL poll, but still an admirable showing.

Personally I think Stevie's vocals on this song are the most amazing thing about it. She sounds just like she did back in the day..........AMAZING!

All in all I think "Smile At You" is a great song, but I still prefer "Say You Will" and "Thrown Down''.

Dunno...maybe it's the grammar.

Joe

CarneVaca · #71 03-17-2003, 07:44 PM

Yeah, all those countless hours of listening to rock 'n roll for the past 25 years count for nothing in terms of appreciating the art form just because I find a glaring grammatical error -- one that could have been easily fixed mind you -- bothersome. Never mind all those hours I have spent PLAYING rock 'n roll guitar either. Boy, what was I thinking?

And by the way, it ain't the "can" vs. "could" issue that's the real problem. It's the "ran" vs. "run" thing. Stevie Nicks is not unnerring, folks. It's OK to admit she made a stupid grammatical error in a song. Gee, you'd be hard-pressed to find someone more dedicated to Ms. Nicks than Sodascouts, but I don't see her excusing the error by saying it's OK because it's only rock 'n roll.

CarneVaca · #72 03-17-2003, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by jwd
Not faring quite as well as Peacekeeper did in the AOL poll, but still an admirable showing...

Dunno...maybe it's the grammar.

I'll bet it's because Lindsey writes better songs, and the poll participants instinctively realize that. Hmm...

DownOnRodeo · #73 03-17-2003, 07:51 PM

Hah, I love reading you US guys debate issues of grammar with the word 'aint' everywhere

This version took me a listen to get use to, because it's so different from the angry version, and I don't even have the Tusk version (or whichever demo is the more sedate)

Now I'm loving it becuase to me it's so evocative of the Buckingham Nicks, folk thing they've got (and had) going. Whether it's the trippy, chant-like chorus, lack of typical rock drums, or possibly the highlight, the (Spanish?) guitar outro, it's indicative of a very new-sound Fleetwood Mac. Lay it on!

Canuck Fan · #74 03-17-2003, 07:57 PM

Finally! We get to have this awesome song on an "official"cd for the rest of the world to enjoy. This definitely proves all the nay sayers like Carne Vaca wrong, that Stevie is the best female rocker out there, no one can even come close to her. I'm especially thrilled with the "true to me" line, gives me instant chills. Good job Fleetwood Mac.

Johnny Stew · #75 03-17-2003, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by CarneVaca
Stevie Nicks is not unnerring, folks. It's OK to admit she made a stupid grammatical error in a song.

I don't really think it's a matter of anyone saying that simply because Stevie did it, it's ok.
I think that some of us are just of the mind that this "slip" seems to be a rather innocuous one, when counted alongside some of the other grammatical errors songwriters often make (whether intentionally or unintentionally)... including the other writers in Fleetwood Mac.

(In fact, it's too bad Lindsey didn't write it. After all, when Lindsey does something, it's just further proof of what a genius he is... but when Stevie does it, it's just clumsy writing.)

Johnny Stew