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Old 11-05-2005, 10:26 PM
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One of the best posts I've read in a while, and I couldn't agree more with everything you said.

No one feels the exact same way about something or someone every day of their life.

Yes, agreed. But, as Amber said, you may want to spend time with your friend today, but tomorrow not so much. But that doesn't change the fact that that person is still your friend.

I guess I'm in the minority, but even though I may not feel the same way day after day about my friends, they are still my friends, regardless of if I don't want to spend time with them. Unless something happened between us that made me change my tone...i.e. I now hate them or something happened to ruin our friendship, then, of course, we would no longer be friends

That is why I find it strange how she changes her tone. I don't have any idea how her relationship with Lindsey is these days. But, if he was my friend my feelings about him may change day to day, but my tone would never change. For instance, if I was asked if Lindsey had apologized...I would have said, "I don't know, but I'm sure he did." But, she doesn't say that. She says, "I don't know, but I would bet he DID NOT." I mean, why bring up all that negativity? Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on Stevie, because I love when she talks so candidly. It just strikes me as strange the way she talks about Lindsey in this interview especially assuming that they are still friends, which I have no reason to doubt that they still are.
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Old 11-05-2005, 10:29 PM
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Very interesting as to why Stevie to this day will not take the microphone off the stand.
I thought the inspiration behind never taking the mic off the stand was from Janis Joplin. Oh Stevie, get your stories straight
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Old 11-05-2005, 10:45 PM
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Does anyone know if this is transcribed anywhere?? I don't seem to be able to access it, and you've all got me so curious about it----

I keep trying that link but nothing happens for me....Wouldn't you know--and it sounds liek the best interview she's done in ages

Any help would be appreciated!!
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Old 11-05-2005, 10:52 PM
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Stevie for Senate!
Exactly what I thought!!!! But, stranger things HAVE been known to happen!
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Old 11-05-2005, 11:03 PM
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As I sit here and listen to this interview "again", I keep looking at AliP's avatar of Lindsey and it's so perfect
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Old 11-05-2005, 11:04 PM
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Exactly what I thought!!!! But, stranger things HAVE been known to happen!
Just look at the chump in the White House.
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:31 AM
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One of the best posts I've read in a while, and I couldn't agree more with everything you said.

No one feels the exact same way about something or someone every day of their life.
Oh, hey, thanks - I just saw this.

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Amber is extremely insightful & very good at stepping back & saying, "Hey, this makes no sense." I wish all of Amber's friends on the ledge would read this post of hers very carefully.
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Yes, agreed. But, as Amber said, you may want to spend time with your friend today, but tomorrow not so much. But that doesn't change the fact that that person is still your friend.

I guess I'm in the minority, but even though I may not feel the same way day after day about my friends, they are still my friends, regardless of if I don't want to spend time with them. Unless something happened between us that made me change my tone...i.e. I now hate them or something happened to ruin our friendship, then, of course, we would no longer be friends

That is why I find it strange how she changes her tone. I don't have any idea how her relationship with Lindsey is these days. But, if he was my friend my feelings about him may change day to day, but my tone would never change. For instance, if I was asked if Lindsey had apologized...I would have said, "I don't know, but I'm sure he did." But, she doesn't say that. She says, "I don't know, but I would bet he DID NOT." I mean, why bring up all that negativity? Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on Stevie, because I love when she talks so candidly. It just strikes me as strange the way she talks about Lindsey in this interview especially assuming that they are still friends, which I have no reason to doubt that they still are.

Maybe because she knew him intimately for years before this experience, and during it, and after it - and she's pretty sure he didn't apologize? You know, maybe she knows that he's the kind of person who most likely didn't apologize to her at that time? Maybe she also thinks that she would remember if he did apologize, because that's kind of a big thing, to kick someone and throw something at them - and then not apologize.
She didn't actually bring up the incident, and the interviewer asked her if he had ever apologized, she didn't volunteer the info - so I think she was probably just being honest - not to be negative but because that is what happened. You are right, she could have said "I'm sure he did" if she wanted to sugar coat, or lie, but she probably didn't feel like it.
But then, just as I think you might be implying, maybe they did have an argument recently which colored her answers a bit, or rather made her feel like she didn't have any reason or desire to hold back. or something along those lines.
Again, I don't think the perceived tone change is strange, though I do concede there may be factors involved in her sudden candor that we don't know about. But that factor could be as simple as that she doesn't feel the need to sugarcoat the past as she perceives it.
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Does anyone know if this is transcribed anywhere?? I don't seem to be able to access it, and you've all got me so curious about it----

I keep trying that link but nothing happens for me....Wouldn't you know--and it sounds liek the best interview she's done in ages

Any help would be appreciated!!

I transcribed the parts I thought were interesting for my site. Here is what I have:


"Lindsey and I broke up because..being that I stood in the middle of the stage without a microphone and without a hammond organ to stand behind that kind of put me in that lead singer position even though I was not the lead singer..he just couldn't stand it. He just hated it. And I think what really broke Lindsey and I up was the attention that I started to get. And, of course, that really hurt my feelings because nothing had really changed. (Interviewer: He started to make nasty remarks about the chiffon) He made very nasty cracks about everything. If I even took the mic off of the stand he'd say, "well, aren't you being so very Las Vegas today." So of course I never took the mic off of the stand again and even to this day. So it was like he could cut me like a knife."


(How long did that go on for? (i.e. the tension between she and Lindsey)) Well, let's see it still goes on today. So, you know, if he was sitting right here I would still be saying this. You know, Lindsey and I will fight to the day we die. If he says this song is a blues song, I will say no, it's a rock song and then we'll argue about it for an hour. We just came through 135 Fleetwood Mac shows and we fought the whole time. We just did an album that took us a year of recording in a house and we fought every single day for a year."


"It is like, I see it as blue and he sees it as green. It's that kind of thing. And we always come around to sort of agreeing on everything at some point but nothing ever starts out in agreement and I think that's what makes us still be pretty great on stage is because we do have that. If we were complacent with each other and everything was just like..."I just love you sweetheart," you know, it would be blissed out and boring."


(Did you outgrow Lindsey?) "Right, well we did change. We had changed before we joined the band. I had already called and borrowed one thousand dollars from my mom and dad to move out and I did move out for like two months. Then, of course, I ran out of money and they weren't going to lend me any more money cause I wasn't going to school so I had to move back in with Lindsey and our friend Richard who was an engineer. So it was the three of us who lived together and I had to swallow all of my pride and move back in. And, uh, the relationship even through Buckingham Nicks I started to see that Lindsey's resentment was not going to make for a good relationship and at that point my idea was that I just don't even want to be in a relationship. I just wanted to do my thing and write my songs and entertain and I don't want to feel bad about what I do and he was starting to make me feel bad about what I did, you know."

(Do you remember why Lindsey threw his Les Paul at you (during the Tusk tour)?)"I think it was exactly that reason. I think that I must have been like..you know every once in a while I must have like sung through a solo or ooh aah'd through a solo or something and I think he must have gotten mad at me because I was humming around in a certain place. The more I think about it I'm pretty sure that was what it was and when he walked over and just hauled off and kicked me and I was so embarrassed that I tried to pretend that he didn't do it. The professional in me said "just don't look, just don't even look at him." Then when the song ended he threw the Les Paul at me and I ducked, luckily, or I wouldn't be talking to you right now and he left the stage and the rest of us, we bow and basically appologized and, you know like what can we say because we knew we weren't coming back to do an encore because we knew Lindsey wouldn't come back on stage and then we all took off running to kill him..all four of us. And basically Christine and I got to him first and I grabbed him and I think Christine slapped him and then one of the bodyguards stepped in between Christine and I and Lindsey."


"Christine was so mad at his lack of professional ability on that night. Of course she was angry that he had tried to hurt me. But since he didn't hurt me.. she was just unbelieving that he had tried to hurt me in front of those people who had paid to come and see us and that he had done something like that. That never happened again."


(Did he every apologize? (for the guitar throwing/kicking incident)) "You know what..I don't know if he ever..I bet he didn't. I don't really remember but I would tend to say that he did not apologize. He probably apologized to the band, you know, I'm sorry I wasn't professional, but he did not say, "Stevie, I'm sorry for kicking you in front of all those people." But again, that's just the dynamic between Lindsey and I."
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I love how her current press tour has her saying he threw his guitar at her. That's a new one.

And for someone who was so insanely resentful of her already before Fleetwood Mac, it must say a lot about Lindsey's character that he told the band that he and Stevie were a package deal.
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I love how her current press tour has her saying he threw his guitar at her. That's a new one.

And for someone who was so insanely resentful of her already before Fleetwood Mac, it must say a lot about Lindsey's character that he told the band that he and Stevie were a package deal.
has no one ever said that before? About the guitar?

That's what he said he said...
And I think there were factors involved in that decision other than his stellar character.
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That's what he said he said...
That's what everyone else in the band has said, too.

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Such as? They sure as **** didn't need her at that point.
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Maybe because she knew him intimately for years before this experience, and during it, and after it - and she's pretty sure he didn't apologize? You know, maybe she knows that he's the kind of person who most likely didn't apologize to her at that time?
I think it's most likely the later.


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She didn't actually bring up the incident, and the interviewer asked her if he had ever apologized, she didn't volunteer the info - so I think she was probably just being honest - not to be negative but because that is what happened. You are right, she could have said "I'm sure he did" if she wanted to sugar coat, or lie, but she probably didn't feel like it.

The thing that gets me is she specifically says she doesn't remember, but then she goes on to put a negative spin on a scenario that she's really unsure about. That's what I think is uncool.
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That's what everyone else in the band has said, too.



Such as? They sure as **** didn't need her at that point.
I disagree. I think that they had concluded they did need her. Or at least Mick decided that they did. Maybe it was just as Stevie said today, that when he heard them he envisioned a CS&N-like three part harmony that would be fabulous. Stevie just now said this in the interviews. And I think Lindsey felt he needed her there, too.

But, that is the story I've most often heard as well. But it seems like I've mainly heard it from Lindsey. I wish I could recall the times each of the other band members said it.
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The thing that gets me is she specifically says she doesn't remember, but then she goes on to put a negative spin on a scenario that she's really unsure about. That's what I think is uncool.
It makes her sound silly. "I don't know if he did...but I'll say he didn't." You'd get more truthful responses from Saddam.
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