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Old 08-19-2005, 03:12 PM
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Then I don't understand why they list bootlegs that are sold in stores in their discography section.

Don't know. It might be an oversight, might have been something someone else input into the discography, could be a lot of reasons. Or, there may be a specific reason it's there and Marty wanted it there. It might be something leftover from earlier days.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:13 PM
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if someone is going to risk their ass to record a show or several shows in the case of Bill, in my opinion he has the right to sell that show..
Isn't that overdoing it a bit? Probably the worst thing that could have happened is his camera getting confiscated- which he would have then been able to get back after the show...
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:17 PM
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Don't know. It might be an oversight, might have been something someone else input into the discography, could be a lot of reasons. Or, there may be a specific reason it's there and Marty wanted it there. It might be something leftover from earlier days.

I don't think it's an oversight since the word "bootleg" is slapped across the cover.


Oh well...to each their own. No sense in fighting over something that's hard to get a handle on and control.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:22 PM
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What I find funny about them is how their fans complain, complain complain about the set lists and lack of spontaneity, even though they change it up 1 zillion times more than we ever see. I think to myself, come over to my little world and you'd know set list misery and stale stage dialogue!
they would consider themselves lucky wouldnt they?
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:22 PM
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I don't think it's an oversight since the word "bootleg" is slapped across the cover.


Oh well...to each their own. No sense in fighting over something that's hard to get a handle on and control.

I just sent you a PM if you want to send the links I'll try to find out something about it. Hardly a fight, there are literally thousands of entries in the discography and as I said to you in the PM, I believe the rule was put in to discourage bootleggers and people selling ashtrays, mugs, t-shirts and every other kind of thing from posting on the message boards.

If you want to send me some links to the pages you found in the discography, I'll look into it.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:24 PM
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they would consider themselves lucky wouldnt they?

funny how they don't see it that way

That would also mean there are fans who have it worse than we do! lol poor things
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:31 PM
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Don't know. It might be an oversight, might have been something someone else input into the discography, could be a lot of reasons. Or, there may be a specific reason it's there and Marty wanted it there. It might be something leftover from earlier days.
I think they're just included just for completionist purposes. The front page does say "Check out the largest Mac discography online."

If there were a link on each entry to buy an illegal copy that would be different. Information is one thing, direct promotion to make a quick buck is another.

Plus, weren't most of the ones listed as Bootleg mass-produced by companies in other countries. (As opposed to sold onesy-twosy directly from the taper...)
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:33 PM
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Don't know. It might be an oversight, might have been something someone else input into the discography, could be a lot of reasons. Or, there may be a specific reason it's there and Marty wanted it there. It might be something leftover from earlier days.
Actually I think it is the rule that is a leftover from earlier days. You will find a few months ago a thread in the chit chat forum in which we discussed adding a new trading/bootleg forum back to the site as there had been a great one before the bid to become the official site. The ultimate decision hasn't been made but the response basically was that it's cool to talk about all that stuff now.
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Management refuses to come back to the bargaining table. Our union is still ready to talk. I believe they'll keep us out for at least 2 weeks before they resume talks. They need to make sure we're suffering a bit. rumours on the lines are that we'll be out anywhere from 3 weeks to seven months.

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Old 08-19-2005, 03:43 PM
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Actually I think it is the rule that is a leftover from earlier days. You will find a few months ago a thread in the chit chat forum in which we discussed adding a new trading/bootleg forum back to the site as there had been a great one before the bid to become the official site. The ultimate decision hasn't been made but the response basically was that it's cool to talk about all that stuff now.
Are you talking about this thread? http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...=trading+forum

It's completely about wanting a forum to trade bootlegs, not sell them. Plus, there's no post from Marty or Lis in it. Or did I not find the wrong one? (I'm still not smart enough to make the Search function work properly, after several years here... )
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I think they're just included just for completionist purposes. The front page does say "Check out the largest Mac discography online."

If there were a link on each entry to buy an illegal copy that would be different. Information is one thing, direct promotion to make a quick buck is another.

Plus, weren't most of the ones listed as Bootleg mass-produced by companies in other countries. (As opposed to sold onesy-twosy directly from the taper...)

It could be any of those things, Curtis gave me the names of a few of them and I said I'd check them out. The link is also a general link and the disc is not actually for sale at this time, but it could be is the point.

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Old 08-19-2005, 03:53 PM
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Actually I think it is the rule that is a leftover from earlier days. You will find a few months ago a thread in the chit chat forum in which we discussed adding a new trading/bootleg forum back to the site as there had been a great one before the bid to become the official site. The ultimate decision hasn't been made but the response basically was that it's cool to talk about all that stuff now.

I'm aware that has been brought up several times.


The only rule I was refering to was the this one:

Advertising or any form of commercial solicitation for sale products, services or other websites

I was not talking about recording, trading, owning, or torrenting bootlegs. I was also not debating or trying to inhibit anyone from selling bootlegs on other sites.

The post that you quoted from me is about a different conversation between Curtis and me about whether or not this site condones or promotes the sale of bootlegs. You'd have to go back and read through the posts to see how the conversation evolved.
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I'm not going to get into this whole situation because it's retarded , but I just wanted to point out that when I first became a fan and joined the ledge for the first time back in 1997, guess where my first $100 was spent...


...buying bootleg video and cassettes from this very site. It was only later that The Penguin stopped selling those, I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong) after they decided to campaign to be the official FM website.

And I treasure those tapes and videos so much. I remember getting the package in the mail at my aunt's house and hearing Maker of the Birds and Julia for the first time. Anyway...like everyone has said, it's a huge difference of opinion and nothing in these 6 pages of posts will change anything.
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Actually I think it is the rule that is a leftover from earlier days. You will find a few months ago a thread in the chit chat forum in which we discussed adding a new trading/bootleg forum back to the site as there had been a great one before the bid to become the official site. The ultimate decision hasn't been made but the response basically was that it's cool to talk about all that stuff now.

Just saw your post - mine is in a similar vein...sorry for the duplicate.
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