Why does every gay man HAVE to love Cher or Madonna? - Page 5

The Tower · #61 08-16-2005, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

I love Sky Fits Heaven and Skin

...and hearing Frozen live had me in tears.

"Frozen" is the only thang on that sucker that comes close to good.

Madonna's two biggest problems are her weak voice and her extremely weak lyric writing. Ray of Light was her 12-year-old diary writing / straining-to-come-up-with-something-coherent at it's worst. Her lyric writing works well for stuff like "Cherish"- but, trying to become transcendental was a big, big mistake. And then she had to top it all off with the fake British accent... Voila!!! Instant irritant.

dissention · #62 08-16-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

I have three words for you- Candy .. Perfume .. Girl

That song is horrific. But the title track and "Frozen" more than make up for it.

strandinthewind · #63 08-16-2005, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

"Frozen" is the only thang on that sucker that comes close to good.

Madonna's two biggest problems are her weak voice and her extremely weak lyric writing. Ray of Light was her 12-year-old diary writing / straining-to-come-up-with-something-coherent at it's worst. Her lyric writing works well for stuff like "Cherish"- but, trying to become transcendental was a big, big mistake. And then she had to top it all off with the fake British accent... Voila!!! Instant irritant.

I disagree and think Ray of Light - lyrics and delivery - are brilliant. I do think though that the vocal could NEVER be repeated live and thus, my problem with Madonna, though I liked her Drowned World Tour. But, even then, I was so close that I could hear what was coming out of her mouth and it was altered before it hit the speakers. Many joked about her million dollar mic. I think in the end, Madonna is a tremendous talent and I like her, but a stellar vocalist she is not. I will say that she has gotten better.

And - do not get me started on her key of C because I cannot sing any flats of sharp Minnie Mouse version of Evita - though I loved the movie and even her in it.

The Tower · #64 08-16-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

That song is horrific. But the title track and "Frozen" more than make up for it.

Well, now I wouldn't say that...

I agree with you- "Ray of Light" is a butt-waggler that is for sure. But, "Candy Perfume Girl" is perhaps Madonna's worst track ever (excluding maybe "Who's That Girl"

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****!!! "Live To Tell" just flashed in my head and that is an AWESOME Madonna song. "Crazy For You", too. I like a lot of her ballads.

Johnny Stew · #65 08-16-2005, 10:14 PM

Why does every gay man HAVE to love Cher or Madonna?

Because you won't get the free toaster if you don't.

macfanken · #66 08-16-2005, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

"Crazy For You", too. I like a lot of her ballads.

My favorite Madge song.

The Tower · #67 08-16-2005, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by macfanken

My favorite Madge song.

By the way, Ken- your flappy meat curtains Paris Hilton comment TOTALLY grossed me out..... Thanks for that nazzzty visual.

"Crazy For You" is one of those lips-kiss-tongue-grind songs of the early 80's that's so....... RAWR!!!

strandinthewind · #68 08-16-2005, 10:19 PM

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. . . "Crazy For You" is one of those lips-kiss-tongue-grind songs of the early 80's that's so....... RAWR!!!

That was soooooo me and this chick I was dating at the time

dissention · #69 08-16-2005, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

Well, now I wouldn't say that...

I agree with you- "Ray of Light" is a butt-waggler that is for sure. But, "Candy Perfume Girl" is perhaps Madonna's worst track ever (excluding maybe "Who's That Girl"

)

Have you forgotten about the "I'm Breathless" album?

When I saw "Dick Tracy" in the theater as a wee lad, I thought she was the **** in it. Listening to that stuff now, "Vogue" is one of the few good songs on it. At least "Who's That Girl" was entertaining for the trainwreck aspect.

Now, if you want her worst song, pop in "I'm So Stupid". Christ.

ontheEdgeof17 · #70 08-16-2005, 10:22 PM

Her Something To Remember collection has all her great ballads:

-One More Chance

-Crazy For You

-I'll Remember

-Take A Bow

.....so good I need to pop it in right now.

Johnny Stew · #71 08-16-2005, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

Cher?? Meh. She's never really done anything for me one way or the other. As far as I'm concerned she's only had ONE good song in her entire career, "Heart of Stone"- and even that one isn't comparable to Stevie's minor-middling stuff.

"Heart Of Stone" is my all-time favorite Cher song. Tying at second are "Song For The Lonely" and her cover of "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore."

Sometimes I just want to listen to some ear candy (believe it or not), and Cher provides some fun ear candy.

With Madonna, I'd say I'm a pretty big fan. Though with the last two albums ('Music' and 'American Life'), I basically loved the singles and maybe two more tracks, and that was it.

"This Used To Be My Playground" will always be my all-time favorite Madonna song. Makes me think of my grandmother's house, and it usually brings a tear to my eye.

dissention · #72 08-16-2005, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

By the way, Ken- your flappy meat curtains Paris Hilton comment TOTALLY grossed me out..... Thanks for that nazzzty visual.

Honey, Paris has been used so much that her flappy meat curtains now hang over the toilet bowl when she sits down. Personally, I still haven't recovered from seeing those photos from when her cell was hacked into.

strandinthewind · #73 08-16-2005, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Have you forgotten about the "I'm Breathless" album?

When I saw "Dick Tracy" in the theater as a wee lad, I thought she was the **** in it. Listening to that stuff now, "Vogue" is one of the few good songs on it. At least "Who's That Girl" was entertaining for the trainwreck aspect.

Now, if you want her worst song, pop in "I'm So Stupid". Christ.

She was okay in Dick Tracy, but that is part she does not need a lot of acting for. And, she sang Sondhiem there. I give her a solid B or maybe B+ for those vocals, which were somewhat difficult.

As for the movie itself - it was okay.

Johnny Stew · #74 08-16-2005, 10:25 PM

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Have you forgotten about the "I'm Breathless" album?

I'm one of the few people who LOVE that album. I think it's great fun.

strandinthewind · #75 08-16-2005, 10:26 PM

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Honey, Paris has been used so much that her flappy meat curtains now hang over the toilet bowl when she sits down. Personally, I still haven't recovered from seeing those photos from when her cell was hacked into.

LOL, when she jumps rope, her nickname is Flapping Fiona