Stevie Nicks Ohio State Fair 1994

[catinthedark]

Originally Posted by glitter_fades

Huh?

What don't you get? If you saw her on the SYW tour, and you've seen her either in Vegas or on the current leg of this tour, there's a big difference. Ain't rocket science!

[catinthedark]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I agree - she apparently has turned her life around several time despite numerous set backs. I also think she was a trooper for sticking it out on the FM tour because to me it was obvious she was in pain or whatever symptoms the menopause was causing. I think that was just one more indication of her loyalty to FM.

Excellent point.

[catinthedark]

Originally Posted by David

I have no more respect for Stevie's rehabilitation than I do for that of hundreds of other people. And I very strongly tend to separate my personal feelings for Stevie (which might include respect or admiration or even attraction) from my aesthetic response to her. I respect some things about my family & friends & even myself, because that respect is a by-product of love & closeness. I neither love nor feel close to Stevie -- or at least only in the verbally loose sense of "I love this song" or "I love the way she sang that part."

Ah. Okay. The lightbulb has come on.

We just have differeing opinions about respect. I can, and do, have respect for many people I don't know personally. I have the same respect for those thousands you mention as I do for Stevie. It's just that I haven't followed the course of their abuse (at least the public side of it) and the course of their rehabilitation and recovery (or at least the public side of it) the way I have Stevie's. I don't pretend or purport to know any more about her than what I see publically. But I don't need to know her personally to have respect for her or admire her. Or love her music.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

I do like the San Jose 89 vid a lot but I think there are even better performances from that tour. Rotterdam, Holland November 24th 1989 is great both in quality and performance. I will Say the same for the Paris, France Bootleg.

The Holland show is my favorite from that tour.

Originally Posted by AliceLover

As for the TS tour. I think that the Philly show is great. Great in performance. I think the best show from that tour is 8-17-91 at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. She really put on an excellent performace and it is my favorite bootleg from the Timespace tour.

You should have seen her in MA on that tour. I was, what, 11 or 12? And I still knew she was awful. It was very disappointing. The boot just surfaced last year and listeing to it again after so long reminded me of how disappointed I was.

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Originally Posted by catinthedark

Best evah?

Go catch her these days, man. She's blowing away her entire past solo touring career.

No way.

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Originally Posted by BirdInFlight

I was front row at the Houston OSOTM show. When she walked the stage during EO17 we locked eyes for a few seconds and it was at that moment I realized "nobody was home" in Stevieville. She had a totally lost look and I was really taken aback by that. However, she did manage to re-do TKOL and re-do WLT about 4 more times in a row so that the video could be filmed.

That Houston boot is depressing. Listless listless listless.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Glittermoondust

Hmmmm--I wonder why no one liked the TISL tour?? That was one of my all time favorites--I loved the songs that she sang--she was on fire during FFG--and I just loved seeing her with Sheryl Crow--and yes I like Sheryl Crow--okay--I can already hear everybody groan While I also liked the Enchanted set list she definitely was not on fire--at least not for our show in Detroit.......a friend who is a casual fan was like--she looks like she is anchored to that one spot on the floor but I did have to agree--she barely moved at all that night........ The show last night was also a favorite--maybe because it was kind of different--but she was smokin' last night!! And I got to shake her hand--so maybe I'm a little biased because of that.....and I will never forget Hotel California!! plus I'm still on a Stevie high

Amy

I love Sheryl Crow and seeing her on the TISL tour was a real highlight. There were even times when her presence overshadowed Stevie because Stevie was so reserved and didn't seem to be into the show one bit. That's my problem with that tour; she seemed bored. The band was also dull and the songs had no kick. Sheryl coming out onstage injected some life into the proceedings.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by David

I think the "Stevie" one is drawn to is the "Stevie" one was originally exposed to. In my case, that would be the figure that sort of resembled the Bette Midler character doing "Midnight in Memphis" in "The Rose."

Very good comparison. I've been saying for ages that she needs to sing that song, too.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by dissention

I love Sheryl Crow and seeing her on the TISL tour was a real highlight. There were even times when her presence overshadowed Stevie because Stevie was so reserved and didn't seem to be into the show one bit. That's my problem with that tour; she seemed bored. The band was also dull and the songs had no kick. Sheryl coming out onstage injected some life into the proceedings.

I enjoyed Sheryl in Stevie's set EXCEPT for the TFFT and INTK duets. I like TFFT, but not on stage and NOT with Sheryl. I Need To Know was terrible. Sheryl sounded like her titties were being tweaked. "Who would have thought I'd fall for his LiiiiiEEEEESSSSS?" Screech! Oy!

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

I love Sheryl Crow and seeing her on the TISL tour was a real highlight. There were even times when her presence overshadowed Stevie because Stevie was so reserved and didn't seem to be into the show one bit. That's my problem with that tour; she seemed bored. The band was also dull and the songs had no kick. Sheryl coming out onstage injected some life into the proceedings.

I have to wonder how much of TISL she was sick for. I, too, thought she was rather dull on stage, though there were some good moments. I was just expecting a performance like the ones I saw for the Enchanted Tour and it was just not there. I know at the Jones Beach and PNC shows I saw, I remember thinking she sounded sick and she indeed got very sick soon thereafter and never really got over it. She was into the Jones Beach show and during Dreams went off on a tangent at the end and then explained that the Mac was working in LA and she was chanelling them or something like that. Who knows in the end.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

I enjoyed Sheryl in Stevie's set EXCEPT for the TFFT and INTK duets. I like TFFT, but not on stage and NOT with Sheryl.

That song sucks. Period.

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

I Need To Know was terrible. Sheryl sounded like her titties were being tweaked. "Who would have thought I'd fall for his LiiiiiEEEEESSSSS?" Screech! Oy!

As opposed to Stevie sounding as if someone was throttling her throat during Every Day Is A Winding Road? Homegirl was painful on that one. It didn't help that Sheryl had lots of energy and Stevie just stood there.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

And I'd like to add that I think her TISL tour was one of her worst tours too, possibly worse then the 89-91 tours. And I remember her getting some raves from fans on that tour too.

I think it's hard to judge until you see her/hear her again. After I walked out of the TISL show at Blossom in '01, I was sure it was the best show she'd ever done. Mind you, it was my first solo Stevie show & I was about 30 rows back.

Seeing/hearing the bootlegs later, of course - eh. Not awful, but not the best ever, either. Like I mentioned before, when I come out of a show, I'm on a high, I'm excited, I just had a great time - I have never left a Stevie/Mac show & thought "that sucked." I don't think many of us have, besides Diss, of course.

But later on, you hear/see the boots & you find that things were not exactly as you recalled they were. How many people have claimed she hit a note & you later find out she didn't? Or spun 18 times when it was actually 6? It's all a matter of opinion, and it's a matter of what your mind is seeing/hearing live vs. replaying it 50 times at home.

Maybe live on the TM tour she sounded fine to the audience live & they walked out proclaiming it was an awesome show; we know from hearing the boots she was out of tune at least some of the time. Just like TISL - I didn't lie or try to sugar coat anything when I wrote my review & said it was the best show ever - to me, at that time, after just seeing it live, it really was.

That being said, of course I think the Pittsburgh show I saw last week was the best show ever! Seriously, though, it will be great, you will have a blast & Stevie will not disappoint you.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by dissention

As opposed to Stevie sounding as if someone was throttling her throat during Every Day Is A Winding Road? Homegirl was painful on that one. It didn't help that Sheryl had lots of energy and Stevie just stood there.

We should just be glad they didn't whip out Leather and Lace.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

We should just be glad they didn't whip out Leather and Lace.

That could have been fun, c'mon!

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by skcin

I have never left a Stevie/Mac show & thought "that sucked." I don't think many of us have, besides Diss, of course.

I have three times:

1. Cow Palace, TITN tour, 12/87

2. Shoreline, OTOTM tour, 10/89

3. Concord Pavilion, SYW tour, 6/04