Slight Possibility Henley/Nicks Tour Could be Cancelled - Page 5

dissention · #61 04-21-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'd be VERY apprehensive to hear her sing "Julia" now... but then the contrast between the original and 'Dance' "Silver Springs" was pretty significant, too, and, yet, in many ways the latter outshone the original.

I hate the original Silver Springs, it's atrocious to these ears. That vocal makes me want to wrap a piano wire around my neck. The Dance version is a masterpiece.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

She also blew the 'Tusk' version of "Beautiful Child" out of the water with her 'SYW' tour performances... so it's definitely possible.

Hell no. She did a damn fine job with that song, but it didn't touch the Tusk version. That childlike quality to her voice is what made the song so stunning and effective on Tusk. I loved it on the past tour, but it was nowhere nearly as good as the album cut.

dissention · #62 04-21-2005, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidBlue5000

lol.. you are brutally honest..

I'm nothing if not that.

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although i do have to agree with you.. she couldn't do any of those songs justice anymore... it makes you wonder which ones she might attempt to dig out of the vault for the next CD

Space Needle must be included, first and foremost.

But get rid of the "tar people" line, it robs the song of all mystery and sounds atrocious.

strandinthewind · #63 04-21-2005, 10:24 PM

I think the Smile at You vocal demonstrates she can still go high. Thus, I think Julia and other songs would be okay. Plus, she NAILED IMO GB with that soft voice that was a 180 from the almost angrily pleading, yearning, and beautiful piano demo. So, who knows. I do know this though. I was terrified before The Dance and she nailed that. I was terrified before the Enchanted tour because Sleeip Angel is so high - she nailed that. She nailed BC on the SYW tour. So, not liking to be wrong all of the time

I tend not to doubt her anymore though I get that her voice is older.

GardenStateGirlie · #64 04-21-2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

That childlike quality to her voice is what made the song so stunning and effective on Tusk. I loved it on the past tour, but it was nowhere nearly as good as the album cut.

Yes, true enough about the childlike quality that endeared the song to me in the first place (Tusk version). However, it was almost a reflection of the past when she sang Beautiful Child on this tour. Her vocals were nothing short of outstanding and incredibly heartfelt, IMHO. To me, you can't compare the two because they were coming from very different places.

dissention · #65 04-21-2005, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think the Smile at You vocal demonstrates she can still go high.

But has to strain a helluva lot to get there. I love Smile At You, but she sounds like she's trying to have a BM at times.

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Thus, I think Julia and other songs would be okay. Plus, she NAILED IMO GB with that soft voice that was a 180 from the almost angrily pleading, yearning, and beautiful piano demo. So, who knows.

Goodbye Baby? Kicks ass. So beautiful. But it doesn't require much effort vocally.

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I do know this though. I was terrified before The Dance and she nailed that. I was terrified before the Enchanted tour because Sleeip Angel is so high - she nailed that. She nailed BC on the SYW tour. So, not liking to be wrong all of the time

I tend not to doubt her anymore though I get that her voice is older.

I doubt her. As I said before, she lost something in her voice five years ago. It's up to her to prove me wrong by kicking some ass.

dissention · #66 04-21-2005, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

Yes, true enough about the childlike quality that endeared the song to me in the first place (Tusk version). However, it was almost a reflection of the past when she sang Beautiful Child on this tour. Her vocals were nothing short of outstanding and incredibly heartfelt, IMHO. To me, you can't compare the two because they were coming from very different places.

Eh, I think it worked for Landslide, but not so much that song, imo. What I really love about the studio cut is that she's singing "I'm not a child anymore," yet she sounds like one. A weak and vulnerable child despite all of her pleading to the contrary.

strandinthewind · #67 04-21-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

Yes, true enough about the childlike quality that endeared the song to me in the first place (Tusk version). However, it was almost a reflection of the past when she sang Beautiful Child on this tour. Her vocals were nothing short of outstanding and incredibly heartfelt, IMHO. To me, you can't compare the two because they were coming from very different places.

ITA - and the same for SS in The Dance and After the Glitter Fades and Sleeping Angel on The Enchanted tour. She was really good if not stunning on those - but she was not what she was when she cut them, which is unfair to suggest she could be

I also think some of the Enchanted's on the Enchanted tour were as close to reckless vocal abandon as she has come in a long time, save the GDW scream from The Dance, which gives me chills from the intensity to this day

sparky · #68 04-21-2005, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kato

You guys ain't right.

I'll take that as a compliment of the highest order.

strandinthewind · #69 04-21-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

. . . Goodbye Baby? Kicks ass. So beautiful. But it doesn't require much effort vocally . . . .

I think it is the best thing on that record, which is saying a lot because LB's stuff is really really good. I also think it is one of the best things she has ever done. The vocal is easy but also subtle and she is not really known for being vocally subtle ( I AM NOT YOUR SIIISSSSTTERERRBBBRROOTTTHEHHRERERHRHWAYAYAYAAAYYYYHHHHHAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYYA - panty revealing spin

) Interestingly, in concert, she sang it with so much more force but maintained the same quality. Anyhoo - my $0.02

GardenStateGirlie · #70 04-21-2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Eh, I think it worked for Landslide, but not so much that song, imo. What I really love about the studio cut is that she's singing "I'm not a child anymore," yet she sounds like one. A weak and vulnerable child despite all of her pleading to the contrary.

Yes, but what about this tour with her beautiful range on her I's transitioning into "I do...love you...I still...need you...I wish...I wish that you were...mine..." I just thought it was beautiful. To me, that shows she is vulnerable and admitting, hey, yea, I'm strong but I'm also now willing to admit to myself that i'm weak as well but i'm finally OK with that and will allow myself the privlage of being mushy, needy, etc.

strandinthewind · #71 04-21-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

Yes, but what about this tour with her "I do...love you...I still...need you...I wish...I wish that you were...mine..." I just thought it was beautiful. To me, that shows she is vulnerable and admitting, hey, yea, I'm strong but I'm also now willing to admit to myself that i'm weak as well but i'm finally OK with that and will allow myself the privlage of being mushy, needy, etc.

I know - I loved that and I also loved the IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII EEEEEE IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII EEE IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII do - wish that - you weeerrreee MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE

That haunts me to this day.

I also loved the first time she literall glared at LB and belted DIRECTLY to him

STILL I AM A FOOL

foot stomping and all - sheeebus

dissention · #72 04-21-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think it is the best thing on that record, which is saying a lot because LB's stuff is really really good. I also think it is one of the best things she has ever done. The vocal is easy but also subtle and she is not really known for being vocally subtle ( I AM NOT YOUR SIIISSSSTTERERRBBBRROOTTTHEHHRERERHRHWAYAYAYAAAYYYYHHHHHAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYYA - panty revealing spin

)

Well, I think Say Goodbye is the best thing on the record, so we'll agree to disagree.

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Interestingly, in concert, she sang it with so much more force but maintained the same quality. Anyhoo - my $0.02

She sounded a bit ragged by the time she got to that song. It was good, don't get me wrong, and it was a real highlight of the show, but sometimes it was too rough. My favorite part of Destiny Rules is when she's just sitting there with Lindsey and singing it. Makes me goosepimply.

strandinthewind · #73 04-21-2005, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Well, I think Say Goodbye is the best thing on the record, so we'll agree to disagree.

I might agree if I had never heard the concert version and then seen it - LORD CHILD the feelings were palpable.

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She sounded a bit ragged by the time she got to that song. It was good, don't get me wrong, and it was a real highlight of the show, but sometimes it was too rough. My favorite part of Destiny Rules is when she's just sitting there with Lindsey and singing it. Makes me goosepimply.

Shipper

dissention · #74 04-21-2005, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

Yes, but what about this tour with her beautiful range on her I's transitioning into "I do...love you...I still...need you...I wish...I wish that you were...mine..." I just thought it was beautiful. To me, that shows she is vulnerable and admitting, hey, yea, I'm strong but I'm also now willing to admit to myself that i'm weak as well but i'm finally OK with that and will allow myself the privlage of being mushy, needy, etc.

Fech, that "I still need you" crap makes me ralph. Thrown in for the sake of romantic melodrama, imo.

The quality of her voice and how she sings it is what makes the Tusk version so special to me. For me, she doesn't match it and she simply can't these days. It's like performing I'm So Afraid but without Lindsey on guitar. Doesn't make the current live versions bad, I think they're fab, they simply don't have as a big an effect on me because the key ingredient is missing.

GardenStateGirlie · #75 04-21-2005, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Fech, that "I still need you" crap makes me ralph. Thrown in for the sake of romantic melodrama, imo.

The quality of her voice and how she sings it is what makes the Tusk version so special to me. For me, she doesn't match it and she simply can't these days. It's like performing I'm So Afraid but without Lindsey on guitar. Doesn't make the current live versions bad, I think they're fab, they simply don't have as a big an effect on me because the key ingredient is missing.

Regardless of why she threw it in there, it was beautiful and watching her and hearing her sing it apparently struck a chord with Jason and I but missed your ass. Typical