Hmmm Hypocrisy all Around

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

If they did, our economy would not be recovering,

Oh please. For whom?

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

and Georgia

Is still a federally funded tax welfare state courtesy of the blue states.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by DeeGeMe

Just for the record, FDR cancelled three of his inagurations (well, the party party anyway). Reasons? The Depression and WWII. Just saying.

Yup. These fascists must have their coronation whilst the soldiers die in Iraq and make the "have mores" have even more.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by dissention

I'm not taking the bait. You know as well as I do that the American press failed miserably in reporting this war and everything that went with it. They did such a bad job that they're as responsible for this mess as the Bush administration.

SEE: Judith Miller, New York Times

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by tynan88

Our economy is good and we are thriving at the moment, however from what I am aware, America ain't doing so great at the moment.
Tynan

It was doing a hell of a lot better 10 years ago and even better than that about 40 years ago.
We may never recover from the cancer that is the Reagan presidency and Clinton's signing of NAFTA without caveats.
All we want is health insurance, a decent living wage and a decent amount of vacation time to spend with our families. Ironically enough, the family values people are the same ones that are f*cking us over on these issues.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by tynan88

I predict legalisation of marijuana the norm (we can discuss this in another thread if your up for) and much different views towards homosexuals and lesbians, and all for the better!

Tynan

Not in this country darling. The fascists would having nothing left to run on. the only way they're legalizing pot is if big pharma gets involved and my guess is they've already studied that and decided the profit margins aren't big enough for them. They'd have to have all those farms instead of a factory that can churn out all those pills. Farming is far more costly becasue they need water, another big problem. I'd bet 1/2insane could shed a little more elight on this.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Yup. These fascists must have their coronation whilst the soldiers die in Iraq and make the "have mores" have even more.

Nice try - but we are hardly in the same financial situation as then

Well, they are getting millions in donations for it to wit - so I am unsure of the burden to the govt. which is related to the point I guess:

Associated Press
Published on: 01/05/05
Atlanta-based Home Depot is among the big corporations donating funds for President Bush's inauguration ceremonies.

More than $13 million has been donated by corporations and individuals to fund the festivities, scheduled for Jan. 18-21, according to a Presidential Inauguration Committee report released last week.

The committee said three weeks ago that it planned to raise $40 million to $50 million for the inaugural events.

Other big corporations that donated include Ford Motor Co.; Time Warner Inc.; the National Association of Homebuilders, based in Washington; and First Data Corp.

The committee announced almost 50 new contributors, including 12 that donated $250,000, the maximum amount sought.

Find this article at:
http://www.ajc.com/business/content/...potdonate.html
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In any event, no one in the last 60 or so years has cancelled theirs - Better

Personally, I think it is a sham for a second termer - but they all (SAVE FOR FDR in a depression ) apparently have done it That is all I am saying. But, once again, I am appearing to give W credit for something pretty much everyone else has done and you all just cannot have that because to do so would be, despite its truth, to give W some kind of validity I am just not partisan that way I guess. AND - I am not insulting you all for being that way - I am just noting that I think you all are and I think it clouds your vision sometimes (as I run for cover for saying that )

I guess I just read things like W's inauguration is a horrible thing and should be canceled because the money should be donated to the Tsunami victims (which is the gist of what was said over the last two or so weeks) and I think what the hell does one have to do with the other. I mean in all the other inaugurations there was still famine, world disorder, and some poor person in need that could have used that money. So, why take it out on W for doing what everyone else, except apparently FDR in a depression (which we are not in) , did.

Again and for he record - I think the inauguration of any Pres. to the tune of over the cost of a press feed from the floor of the Congress is stupid and an outrageous expense - so I am not realy arguing with you about that.

As for the economic indicators, 2004 was the best year for jobs since 1999. I saw that while on the stairmaster today. Plus, Greenspan is saying it and has been saying it. I think Greenspan is a pretty good source

But and in the interest of time - let's not argue about it now and revisit it in a year - Let's see if those numbers hold and if Greenspan is still saying it then.

AND another thing - I would like to point out that as I predicted time has shown Novak ain't been indicted yet - I believe others around here were thinking it was going to be soon

When will you people learn not to argue with me (levity here )

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

well, they really cannot be silenced by law and I submit every country has these types

Well, we present others as well. I also tend to think FOX is not broadcast too much outside of the US. I base this on my travels abroad. The hotels (American and foreign owned) always have CNN, which IMO (shut us Diss ) is FAR from being conservative and is a little bit like light or diet news. I have never seen Fox in any of those hotels. Thus and hopefully, we keep our crazies in the upstairs room

A huge part of the problem is deregulation and that the Fairness Doctrine was done away with. Again, brought to you by the plague that is known as the Reagan administration.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

It was doing a hell of a lot better 10 years ago and even better than that about 40 years ago.
We may never recover from the cancer that is the Reagan presidency and Clinton's signing of NAFTA without caveats.
All we want is health insurance, a decent living wage and a decent amount of vacation time to spend with our families. Ironically enough, the family values people are the same ones that are f*cking us over on these issues.

that is because they are greddy IMO. They all Jones so bad they cannot be bothered with the little people, even if they are the little people mind you , on their way up the ladder

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Originally Posted by dissention

If only I could have babies with Christiane Amanpour...LOVE. HER. TO. DEATH.

That is a real journalist, folks.

Yes. Notice how little we see of her anymore.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

A huge part of the problem is deregulation and that the Fairness Doctrine was done away with. Again, brought to you by the plague that is known as the Reagan administration.

with the blessing of how many D members of Congress?

They are all sleazy IMO.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Yes. Notice how little we see of her anymore.

I thought you did not watch the news

I see her all the time, esp lately, she is in the Tsunami area along with every other big reporter She has been on pretty much daily for the last two weeks.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

really - that is interesting. When I was in Montreal about a year or so ago, these people I met were like CNN is W's lapdog - I was like WTF - you mean Fox - they were like CNN. I think there was a language barrier

CNN has started to pattern themsleves after Fox. It's all about the dollars. Their assessment is not that unfair.

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Originally Posted by tynan88

Nah to me, CNN seems very independent, it has a very international and to me a very European focus on it, also there are some Aussies on it so it's very international even though its based in Atlanta (is it?).

I would be interested to see what other non-Americans think.

Tynan

You're watching CNN international, not what we get over here.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

SEE: Judith Miller, New York Times

again, I guess no news agency reported anything. None of them even mentioned it You know better than that The problem was the American people did not buy it. They for the most part could care a less about the Middle Eastern people - they just as soon see them all dead. A good example of this was this guy the other day was on the one hand saying too bad about the WMD but the US is trying to help these poor people in the wake of a ruthless dictator - and then no less than five minutes later was watching the news and SCREAMING we ought to kill them all. So, I, being ME told him he was not supporting the troops or W because they say the Iraqi's are our friends and we are there to help them not kill them all as he just advocated. Well, that ended all civil conversation

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

blah blah blah - use google to find the articles - I am tired of this argument because even if I cite 100 articles you will never believe it

Propaganda!