Wouldn't it be great if Stevie...

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by dissention

That's because you have good taste, my darling. I'm one of those people, I just like Lindsey a little bit more.

Really? You never let it show!


I'm a fan of both Lindsey & Stevie, but quite obviously my preference is Stevie... for the myriad reasons I've cited before.

Beyond those reasons, she doesn't have to dance in high-heels for two hours, or tell jokes dressed like a mermaid, or swing a guitar around her head and duck-walk across the stage, in order to entertain me.
She entertains me through her sheer, unbridled ability to sing a song in way that is endlessly captivating to me.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Serrart

You mean speaking from a pure Dissention's entertainment standpoint. From mine I'd say Stevie, Rolling Stones, U2, David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews Band.

Romy

Ooh, I forgot Bowie! Good choice!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Really? You never let it show!

I know, I've been around you too long.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by dissention

I know, I've been around you too long.

Well, I don't pretend to not prefer Stevie over Lindsey. I love Lindsey's music and always have, but Stevie wins out, time and time again.

However, I don't spend all of my time nit-picking Lindsey's every move, just because I prefer Stevie. But I'm definitely going to be there pointing out hypocrisies when those double-standards crop up (as they so often do).

Just as it's extremely unfair when Stevie fans belittle Lindsey's talents and accomplishments, it's also unfair when Lindsey's fans denigrate Stevie with sarcastic cracks, thinly-disguised as humor.

If you don't like Lindsey, then fine... you don't have to.
If you don't like Stevie, then fine... you don't have to.
But others do like one or the other or both, and the endless questioning of people's tastes, and the little pseudo-witty comments about whose tours sell better or whose music is better, grow tiresome.
Always makes me wonder what all the defensiveness is about.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

If you don't like Lindsey, then fine... you don't have to.
If you don't like Stevie, then fine... you don't have to.
But others do like one or the other or both, and the endless questioning of people's tastes, and the little pseudo-witty comments about whose tours sell better or whose music is better, grow tiresome.
Always makes me wonder what all the defensiveness is about.

I agree. But there are only so many Survivor threads to be done, only so many threads about Stevie's hair or how Lindsey is hot threads to be done, only so many fan club threads, only so many favorite lyric or vocal threads, and so on. Eventually everything gets tiresome, but we all come back, don't we? If someone doesn't want to read such comments, they shouldn't start threads or post posts that are obviously going to wind up being what they don't want. Or, utiliize the ignore function.

It's like the radio. If oyu don't like what you're hearing, turn the dial.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by dissention

I agree. But there are only so many Survivor threads to be done, only so many threads about Stevie's hair or how Lindsey is hot threads to be done, only so many fan club threads, only so many favorite lyric or vocal threads, and so on. Eventually everything gets tiresome, but we all come back, don't we? If someone doesn't want to read such comments, they shouldn't start threads or post posts that are obviously going to wind up being what they don't want. Or, utiliize the ignore function.

It's like the radio. If oyu don't like what you're hearing, turn the dial.

I'm not saying we shouldn't debate these things, or cite preferences, etc.
I'm just saying that there ARE ways to debate, and there ARE ways to discuss why you like something or why you don't like something, without all the little sneering jabs and digs.

The derivise comments breed resentment and hostility... and, to me at least, usually seem like the last resort of someone who doesn't have a valid argument.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm not saying we shouldn't debate these things, or cite preferences, etc.
I'm just saying that there ARE ways to debate, and there ARE ways to discuss why you like something or why you don't like something, without all the little sneering jabs and digs.

The derivise comments breed resentment and hostility... and, to me at least, usually seem like the last resort of someone who doesn't have a valid argument.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But I see everyone participating in that very behavior you outlined above, including yourself, whether it's intentional or unintentional. Those are the drawbacks of message boards, unfortunately.

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by snwriter

---An opening act that's better than the headliner...priceless! ---

Well that's your opinion. Trouble is, Lindsey would only draw half as many people as Stevie.

Lindsey would sell way less then half of the tickets Stevie did. He's not a household name unlike Stevie. Sorry to say.

I think this whole thing is silly- they both want to make more music and they both, most likely want to tour. Fleetwood Mac as a united front is more popular then just Stevie and especially just Lindsey... so why don't they just work together and do another Mac album? They can fit a good 18, 20 songs on it so they are getting out a ton of music each. It is not like they are making a vinyl record with Christine giving them each three songs. Just forget the whole solo thing!

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by dissention

I just like Lindsey a little bit more.

Talk about an understatment! I've been on this board for years and you rarely say anything about him that could even be called critisism. But the semi-rude Stevie comments are endless! No offense, dis!


I have a question for the board: Is there anyone that likes Stevie and Lindsey both equally? This sounds impossible to me because they are so different you have to like one more.

And in case anyone didn't know Stevie is my favorite. I really don't understand how anyone could not choose Stevie as there favorite. I guess that is because I am so obsessed with her! But then again, I also don't understand how someone could like cats more then dogs! I don't get cat people- dogs are much more loveable! Okay, I'm getting off track. Oh well!

[sparky]

Originally Posted by diamondsnake

Fleetwood Mac as a united front is more popular then just Stevie and especially just Lindsey... so why don't they just work together and do another Mac album?

This would work. It will also take YEARS. Let us remember most of Lindsey's songs were pretty much done when they went into that house to record SYW. If they start work on a record in January, which is a laughable concept, the record would not be out until spring of 2006, at the very earliest. To be realistic, I would say spring of 2007. One year for Lindsey to work on his songs, one year for him to work on Stevie's. I think his recording timetable is well documented and difficult to dispute. I hope Stevie does a solo record in the interim, or has hip surgery, which she clearly needs.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by dissention

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But I see everyone participating in that very behavior you outlined above, including yourself, whether it's intentional or unintentional. Those are the drawbacks of message boards, unfortunately.

And didn't I include both "sides" when I made the statement? I think I clearly said that it's just as wrong when Stevie fans do it.

As I've said before, I don't purposefully and gleefully take jabs at Lindsey. If you've ever watched, any comment I've made has always been in response to someone making a jab at Stevie (or "Stevie Fans") for something that Lindsey (or "Lindsey Fans") also do(es).
And I also call Stevie fans on the same behaviour... though most times five other people have already beaten me to that.

But since we're all guilty of it, then how about we ALL do our best to not do it.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

And didn't I include both "sides" when I made the statement? I think I clearly said that it's just as wrong when Stevie fans do it.

As I've said before, I don't purposefully and gleefully take jabs at Lindsey. If you've ever watched, any comment I've made has always been in response to someone making a jab at Stevie (or "Stevie Fans") for something that Lindsey (or "Lindsey Fans") also do(es).
And I also call Stevie fans on the same behaviour... though most times five other people have already beaten me to that.

But since we're all guilty of it, then how about we ALL do our best to not do it.

What about when it's funny? The whole thing didn't really bother me, cause i figured we all know we're all fans of one of em, and we all know that we all love one better than the rest...I just didn't think it was that serious....
AMber

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by amber

What about when it's funny? The whole thing didn't really bother me, cause i figured we all know we're all fans of one of em, and we all know that we all love one better than the rest...I just didn't think it was that serious....

I think I have a pretty great sense of humour, and a lot of the comments made are really funny (sometimes even hysterical). I think it's just rather un-funny when a joke is made at the expense of one of them, in order to make the other look better.

I don't have a good example right now. I guess it's just one of those cases where "you know it when you see it."

Maybe we all (and that includes myself) just take some of this stuff a little too seriously sometimes.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I think I have a pretty great sense of humour, and a lot of the comments made are really funny (sometimes even hysterical). I think it's just rather un-funny when a joke is made at the expense of one of them, in order to make the other look better.

I don't have a good example right now. I guess it's just one of those cases where "you know it when you see it."

Maybe we all (and that includes myself) just take some of this stuff a little too seriously sometimes.

Ah, well...I swear I can tell the moon and venus are in Cancer today...I feel a smidge touchy, and perhaps others do to... Yeah, ok. When someone or me disses my people, I just usually laugh and re-diss...it's hard to get mad at people for their opinions - well, it's not hard to get mad, it's just hard to justify being mad! Anyway..
AMber

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by amber

Ah, well...I swear I can tell the moon and venus are in Cancer today...I feel a smidge touchy, and perhaps others do to...

That's a good idea... chalk today up to astrological influences, and let's just all move on.

(The first time I typed that, I accidentally typed "move in" instead of "move on." There's a thought... a dozen or so Ledgies all in the Big Brother house together! Eek!)