You Go Al S.!!!!!!!!!!

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by jwd

Well isn't that sweet?

http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/dailystar/32301.php

Bush camp solicits race of Star staffer

ARIZONA DAILY STAR

President Bush's re-election campaign insisted on knowing the race of an Arizona Daily Star journalist assigned to photograph Vice President Dick Cheney.

The Star refused to provide the information.

Cheney is scheduled to appear at a rally this afternoon at the Pima County Fairgrounds.

A rally organizer for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign asked Teri Hayt, the Star's managing editor, to disclose the journalist's race on Friday. After Hayt refused, the organizer called back and said the journalist probably would be allowed to photograph the vice president.

"It was such an outrageous request, I was personally insulted," Hayt said later.

Danny Diaz, a spokesman for the president's re-election campaign, said the information was needed for security purposes.

"All the information requested of staff, volunteers and participants for the event has been done so to ensure the safety of all those involved, including the vice president of the United States," he said.

Diaz repeated that answer when asked if it is the practice of the White House to ask for racial information or if the photographer, Mamta Popat, was singled out because of her name. He referred those questions to the U.S. Secret Service, which did not respond to a call from the Star Friday afternoon.

Hayt declined to speculate on whether Popat was racially profiled, but said she is deeply concerned.

"One has to wonder what they were going to do with that information," Hayt said. "Because she has Indian ancestry, were they going to deny her access? I don't know."

Journalists covering the president or vice president must undergo a background check and are required to provide their name, date of birth and Social Security number. The Star provided that information Thursday for Popat and this reporter.

"That's all anybody has been asked to provide," said Hayt, adding that this is the first time in her 26-year career that a journalist's race was made an issue.

Organizer Christine Walton asked for Popat's race in telephone conversations with two other Star editors before she spoke to Hayt. They also refused to provide the information. Walton told Hayt that Popat's race was necessary to allow the Secret Service to distinguish her from someone else who might have the same name.

"It was a very lame excuse," Hayt said.

Popat, a photographer with six years' experience, was on assignment Friday and unaware of the controversy. But she said she was glad the Star refused. "My race shouldn't have anything to do with my job," she said.

Tickets are required for the public to attend the rally, which begins at 12:50 p.m. All tickets were distributed by Friday.

[Johnny Stew]

President Bush's re-election campaign insisted on knowing the race of an Arizona Daily Star journalist assigned to photograph Vice President Dick Cheney.

Sometimes the comparisons to the earliest days of the Nazi's proliferation in Germany, don't seem so far-fetched.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by dissention

He was pissed because Shrub used religion to get their votes. Don't you pay attention? He was pissed because he campaigned to the people he insulted about the NAACP. Don't you pay attention? He was pissed because Bush ahs said publicly he doesn't care about the black vote, yet he went out and kissed ass. Don't you pay attention? Stop with the talking points and get your facts straight, that is, if you have any at all.

do you have a tick or something? i heard you the first time. i watched the highlights. and he looked like a dumbass so i commented on it. my apologizes. and screw you

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by dissention

I'm not here to teach you or to correct your ignorance. You obviously have the internet, do some research before you show your ignorance about the subject. Simple as that. It's called Google.

why would i do that if i could get someone here to sum it down for me. i dont have that kind of time.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by dissention

Then your comments aren't productive or based on much of anything. Don't feign ignorance and don't comment on things you did not watch, it's only fair.

i do whatever i want. unless you want to come over here and stop me from doing. don't tell me my business.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by dissention

Role models? For the African American community? Don't make me hurl my bran muffin.

And Powell would run this country into the ground, being the hypocrite that he is. It all comes back to the Powell Doctrine.

all politicians are hypocrytes. kerry is a hypocryte. edwards is a hypocryte. clinton is a dumbass. bush is a hypocryte. they all are. you're gonna have to have a hyprocryte in office. there's no way around it.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Sometimes the comparisons to the earliest days of the Nazi's proliferation in Germany, don't seem so far-fetched.

I know. But a certain contingent on this board gets up in arms over the mere comparison of it so...

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

why would i do that if i could get someone here to sum it down for me. i dont have that kind of time.

Would you believe my summation? Or Dissention's? Wouldn't you rather form your own informed opinion on things? Trying to discuss things about which you "don't have the time" to take an interest in makes you look like a bit of a dolt. If you've no interest in politics, why vote?

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

The first Black president will be a Democrat. His name: Barack Obama.

the first black president may be Democratic Senator Ford (I cannot recall his first name) from the state of Tennessee...He is already being prepped for a run in possibly 2008 or 2012, Thus his new nickname "The Next-next president".

Obama could do it, but Ford has the better chance of succeeding!

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

all politicians are hypocrytes. kerry is a hypocryte. edwards is a hypocryte. clinton is a dumbass. bush is a hypocryte. they all are. you're gonna have to have a hyprocryte in office. there's no way around it.

You might want to utilize the spell check once in a while. I see you've got a Billy Badass complex going for you as well, from your reply a couple of posts ago. As I said, if all is lost and you've no interest in politics, why are you a part of these discussions? This is a big board and we're certainly not dragging you over to this thread to post.

"It is easier to pretend to be what you are not than to hide what you really are; but he that can accomplish both has little to learn about hypocrisy."
Charles Caleb Colton
Lacon
1825

[jwd]

Johnny Stew:

You're right, we have two African Americans who aren't being overlooked or taken for granted by the Republican Party... but what about the other 39 million?

http://www.politicalblack.com/blackrepublicans.html

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=15345

"Criticism of Reagan from black spokespersons is motivated by ideology, not an objective review of policies adopted during Reagan’s eight years in office or the status of black Americans. Reagan increased funding for civil rights enforcement, his Justice Department brought more suits to enforce voting rights in its first three years than the Carter administration had in four years. And of course, Reagan signed legislation making Martin Luther King Day a national holiday."


http://www.meckgop.com/timeline.html

"2001 President George W. Bush appoints General Colin L. Powell as the Secretary of State; Roderick R. Paige as the Secretary of Education; Condoleezza Rice as Advisor of the National Security Council; Alphonso Jackson as the Deputy Secretary to Housing and Urban Development; Claude Alien as the Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services; Leo S. Mackay, Jr, as the Deputy Secretary of Veterans Affairs; Larry D. Thompson as the Deputy Attorney General; and Stephen A. Perry as Adminstrator of General Services Adminstration"


http://www.newaus.com.au/030502gopblacks.html

"The contrast in the House of Representatives was even more marked, with 61 percent of Dems voting for the Act as against 80 percent of the Republicans. Al Gore's father was one of those who refused to support the Act that enforced the constitutional rights of blacks. Unlike that well-known Democrat Bull Connor who used dogs, clubs and hoses to violate black rights, the genteel Gore merely voted against them."

[Johnny Stew]

The State Of Black American Politics

Despite more than two decades of rhetoric that Republican conservatism offers African Americans a viable avenue for inclusion, the GOP has yet to mount a substantive real-life effort to address what poll after poll shows African-Americans consider major core issues - such as racist practices in housing, job markets, income/wealth patterns, educational opportunities, health patterns, and the criminal justice system. Instead, the Republicans have seemed content to play appointive politics with the black electorate.

Bush Economics Bad News For African Americans

"Among those most negatively and disproportionately affected by Bush’s economic policies are African Americans. The 2001 Bush tax cuts, which provided relief for wealthy individuals and corporations, exacerbated the effects of the recession on middle- and lower-income African American families by forcing cuts in social programs such as job training, according to the National Urban League’s Institute for Opportunity and Equality."

"We have witnessed a wholesale retreat from the economic policies that benefited the many, including millions of people of color, to the narrow policies that benefit the rich and wealthy," CBTU (Coalition of Black Trade Unionists) President William Lucy said, citing the $330 billion tax cut recently passed by Congress.

Bush and Race: Policies Matter

While Bush's snubbing of the oldest civil rights organization may have offended the sensibilities of the members of the NAACP and others, a critical assessment of the conservative policies of the Bush administration illustrate a more serious assault on the interests of people of color.

Under the cloud of the Bush administration's recession and "jobless" recovery, much of the prosperity that communities of color experienced during the 1990s economic boom has all but evaporated in the past four years as poverty rates, on the decline at the end of the 90's, have risen. The unemployment rate for African-Americans has doubled that of whites – 10.1 percent for African-Americans and 5.0 percent for whites according to the June 2004 report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Further, President Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy have widened the racial and ethnic wealth and income divide by rewarding those who have investment income with lower taxes and penalizing those with wage income with higher taxes.

A similarly bleak picture exists in health care policy where the Bush administration has failed to put forward a reform plan to fix a troubled health care system and promises of expanded funding for HIV/AIDS treatment have largely gone unmet. As a result, the expanding ranks of individuals lacking health care coverage include a disproportionate number of African-Americans, Latinos and Native Americans, and racial disparities in a range of health outcomes – including mortality rates – continues to exist.

The Bush administration has provided the smallest increase for education funding since 1996, frozen funding for after-school programs, inadequately increased Title I funding for the nation's poorest schools, and failed to increase Pell Grant awards. While President Bush is fond of criticizing those in the education profession for "the soft bigotry of low expectations" that he argues undermines achievement for students of color, President Bush's own education policies have significantly undermined the public education system and exacerbated the problem of educational inequality.

In response to public criticism of the NAACP snubbing, the Bush administration has sought to emphasize the president's "proven record" in helping communities of color. And while nothing on the list was quite as amusing as HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson's reaching way back to President Abraham Lincoln's freeing the slaves to find Republican Party accomplishments for African-Americans, the "proven record" illustrates a tenuous connection between the rationales of the Bush administration and the realities of life for many people of color.

(T)he Bush administration is advancing a policy for funding Section 8 housing vouchers that will substantially cut housing assistance for many low-income families.

The administration's record on civil rights enforcement is equally undistinguished. Career lawyers in the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice have publicly complained that Attorney General John Ashcroft has allowed conservative politics to compromise key enforcement decisions. One such example was during the consideration of the 2002 Mississippi redistricting plan in which the Justice Department sat on its hands against the recommendation of its career lawyers, thus allowing a three-judge federal appeals court composed of three Republican-appointed judges to approve a plan that diluted the strength of the African-American vote and benefited the Republican candidate in a heavily contested district. And Ashcroft continues to stand by while the state of Florida purges alleged convicted felons from its voter roles based on inaccurate data and a flawed process.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by jwd

http://www.meckgop.com/timeline.html

"2001 President George W. Bush appoints General Colin L. Powell as the Secretary of State; Roderick R. Paige as the Secretary of Education; Condoleezza Rice as Advisor of the National Security Council; Alphonso Jackson as the Deputy Secretary to Housing and Urban Development; Claude Alien as the Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services; Leo S. Mackay, Jr, as the Deputy Secretary of Veterans Affairs; Larry D. Thompson as the Deputy Attorney General; and Stephen A. Perry as Adminstrator of General Services Adminstration"

Tommy Thompson is Secretary of Health and Human Services, Anthony Principi Director of Veterans Affairs, James Comey is Deputy Attorney General. Guess what? They're all crackers! Either the site you listed is wrong or it hasn't been updated in ages. Which begs the question, why can't the Bush administaration keep people of color working for them?

Originally Posted by jwd

http://www.newaus.com.au/030502gopblacks.html

"The contrast in the House of Representatives was even more marked, with 61 percent of Dems voting for the Act as against 80 percent of the Republicans. Al Gore's father was one of those who refused to support the Act that enforced the constitutional rights of blacks. Unlike that well-known Democrat Bull Connor who used dogs, clubs and hoses to violate black rights, the genteel Gore merely voted against them."

Now go Google Dixiecrat.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Would you believe my summation? Or Dissention's? Wouldn't you rather form your own informed opinion on things? Trying to discuss things about which you "don't have the time" to take an interest in makes you look like a bit of a dolt. If you've no interest in politics, why vote?

i work and go to school....i really dont have the time to research this stuff. if you give me a good source i'll gladly check it out.

edit:
and not having the time doesnt equal not having an interest. if i wasn't interested i wouldn't be here. i'm only 18 years old so i'm not as well researched as some of you here. give me time though cause i'm always gaining knowledge.

my apologies on the spelling error......i never check myself on these boards.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

i work and go to school....i really dont have the time to research this stuff. if you give me a good source i'll gladly check it out

Every article I've ever posted is available through the search function on this thread. There are many.