Stevie Nicks Video Access Hollywood Interview

[singertobe]

Paul McCartney is a very handsome man

[jkmaletic]

Originally Posted by Deeshere

I found this video on Fleetwood Mac News. It has a wealth of Stevie Nicks information in it including (a Beatles story, Reese Witherspoon, her up coming part on AHS) and her discussing if she wants Christine M
McVie back or or not which starts at 12.51

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What is interesting to me, is Christine seems to think she has to be ASKED to come back into the band, but Stevie says NO she DOES NOT. She's part of the Mac in Fleetwood Mac so she can come back if she wants.

Which means if Christine just wants to show up to the tour rehearsals and say OK guys I'm back, I'm touring and I'm willing to stick this out for as long as I have too; everyone in the band would say OK there's the keyboard lets get going.

But my next question is what would happen to Brett if Christine came back??

As far as I have heard everyone in the band loves Brett and if Christine comes back they will have to find another place for him (because I'm sure they won't just let him go) and he might not be too happy about that.

Brett seems like a happy easy going guy but he may not be too happy being relegated to backup keyboards or guitar. That could also explain why (IMO) Lindsey has not seem to psyched about Christine coming back in the past. Lindsey's very loyal to friends and family (we all know he and Brett are very close) and if he thinks Christine coming back is going to upset Brett or cause a problem with Brett's position I can see him not being too happy about the change, but like Stevie said Christine is part of the MAC in Fleetwood Mac, so I don't think Lindsey will ultimately stop her if it's what she really wants.

Lastly, It seems that Lindsey and (now) Stevie fear that halfway though a tour Christine might quit again (maybe I'm mistaken but wasn't there talk of The Dance Tour, doing more shows in 1998, but then Christine quit and all that stopped) and that would defiantly be a problem, because even if the band can revamps the songs, the lighting, the stage production etc...and continue on without her the fans that don't get to see her with the band are gonna be pis**d off and the rest of the band members would have to deal with that.

Funny side note-
I believe this/these interviews were shot at Barnes and Noble in a back room before the signing. We saw her security guy, Martie, in the store hours before the actual signing. Also, that IYD promotional sign behind her was in the bookstore in the morning, then disappeared later. We were able to get photos with it before that.

[SpyNote]

Originally Posted by michelej1

It would be interesting to know what Lindsey's say is on the matter. So far, we've only heard what Stevie's said he's said. But whatever his view, he has been giving her his opinion on Christine since Christine left I would guess, so I doubt he could make her overhaul her own views since September, if he hadn't influenced her in the 15 years before September.

Michele

Well, Lindsey has been consistent about how he feels about the possibility of Christine returning. He tends to repeat what he's already said in previous interviews and this is the case with his most recent interviews (e.g. Rolling Stone), that Christine has burned her bridges and he enjoys the group now as a foursome. But as the prospect of her rejoining the band came back up in London, it seems like his position (relayed through Stevie) intensified. Stevie can be over-the top dramatic at times, but I don't think she's exaggerating about Lindsey's views. Given all we know about him, it seems more than plausible that he'd passively try to make arguments to discourage her from rejoining.

I agree that it would be helpful to hear what Lindsey's most current thoughts on the subject are. But I don't think they will be too far off from what has already been reported.

[elle]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

I agree that it would be helpful to hear what Lindsey's most current thoughts on the subject are. But I don't think they will be too far off from what has already been reported.

yes. as he said - he's probably "shocked and pleased."

[Ulpian]

Originally Posted by elle

yes. as he said - he's probably "shocked and pleased."

Yes, but wasn't that in the context of a brief return to do one song? I think his views on a full-time return would be different.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Ulpian

Yes, but wasn't that in the context of a brief return to do one song? I think his views on a full-time return would be different.

No, actually his shocked and pleased comment wasn't about her doing one song in London. It was about her returning full time. But he didn't think it would happen.

Michele

[elle]

Originally Posted by Ulpian

Yes, but wasn't that in the context of a brief return to do one song? I think his views on a full-time return would be different.

why would he be shocked that she'd want to return for one song?

his comment was exactly about the possibility of her full time return. he said he would be shocked if she'd want to return full time. shocked and pleased.

Originally Posted by michelej1

No, actually his shocked and pleased comment wasn't about her doing one song in London. It was about her returning full time. But he didn't think it would happen.

yup. therefore, shocked.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

Well, Lindsey has been consistent about how he feels about the possibility of Christine returning. He tends to repeat what he's already said in previous interviews and this is the case with his most recent interviews (e.g. Rolling Stone), that Christine has burned her bridges and he enjoys the group now as a foursome. But as the prospect of her rejoining the band came back up in London, it seems like his position (relayed through Stevie) intensified. Stevie can be over-the top dramatic at times, but I don't think she's exaggerating about Lindsey's views. Given all we know about him, it seems more than plausible that he'd passively try to make arguments to discourage her from rejoining.

Stevie said that Lindsey said "come and go" with respect to the appearance in London and how it could have been more than one song. She didn't say he said it about a full time return to the band. So, even Stevie hasn't said what Lindsey's thoughts are on this yet.

Second, if Stevie said "coming and going" wasn't important to her in London, what has Lindsey done to change her mind about that in the few weeks that have passed? Why was she so against his point of view in September, but now he has "influenced" her to his way of thinking? They spent the whole summer together, but she still said coming and going wasn't a big deal to her at one point. She can change her own mind, without him changing it for her, since he hadn't changed it in the last 15 years where Christine is concerned.

The thing is, when Stevie said that coming and going was not important to her, Stevie was also talking about Christine coming on stage to appear in London. She wasn't talking about Christine's full time return to the band in September. Maybe her views have ALWAYS been that Christine should know what she's jumping in to before returning. Stevie was talking about how miserable Christine was 13 years ago and saying that Christine had toured since she was 17 and didn't want to do it anymore back then. Her recent comments about how hard stage shows are sound like hers and not like Lindsey's. She didn't just parrot the "come and go" line. She also tossed in a lot of arguments against a hasty return to the band that Lindsey has NEVER voiced in the press and they don't even sound like something Lindsey would say. He might talk about how horrible band politics and (in the old days) drugs were when they toured. He never said that touring itself was hard.

Plus, we recently saw with the Without You intro where Stevie said that Lindsey told her the band didn't want her, but only wanted him, that Stevie exaggerates what Lindsey says. Lindsey didn't say that on the video. Mick pointed to him, to indicate that the band wanted him and not a duo and all Lindsey did was mutter, "me? Me? Me?" From that Stevie gathered that Lindsey was telling her they wanted a "smoking" guitarist and not his hippie girlfriend, but that's not what Lindsey said. Stevie doesn't always recount Lindsey's words accurately. She intuits what he means and then elaborates on her own. There is some projection there, which is natural.

This reminds me of Sheryl Crow. Do you remember when Lindsey said that Stevie got upset with Sheryl Crow? He said both Mick and Stevie were upset with Sheryl. Mick and Stevie never said they were upset. Lindsey was clearly upset with Sheryl. I think he just put the words in Stevie and Mick's mouths. I don't know if Stevie ever told Lindsey she was mad at Sheryl Crow.

That's the case here. Christine has also confirmed that Lindsey didn't want her to do the first London show. I believe that. But whether Lindsey said she can' just "come and go" or not is a mystery. Especially, since Stevie is saying it now, as if they were her own words. Maybe they always have been. It's not that she doesn't want Christine to return. It's that she wants Christine to know what she's getting into. She is the one that said Christine looked at her with her big blue eyes and said she can't do it anymore and that touring was Stevie's dream, but it wasn't Christine's. She is the one who said she knew Christine was done and meant it. Maybe she is the one who wants to make sure Christine means it now.

You may assume that Lindsey has influenced her behind the scenes, but since she is the one who told us what Lindsey said in the first place and we've never heard from Lindsey, I don't make that assumption.

As for Lindsey's burned her bridges, he said all he meant by that was that Christine sold her home, divorced, moved back to England, etc. He didn't say that it meant that she could not return to the band. I think the connotation was clear to him, so I've never liked his repeated use of the phrase, but that's what we've heard him say all these years. We haven't heard him say "she can't just come and go." But you're right. He likes to repeat himself. Maybe one day we will hear him say it.

Aside from that, Lindsey likes to be blunt and irritating, so his views will probably be very straight forward and maybe unwelcome when we hear them. But there's no guarantee that they will be what STEVIE says they are.

Michele

[Newzchspy]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Aside from that, Lindsey likes to be blunt and irritating, so his views will probably be very straight forward and maybe unwelcome when we hear them. But there's no guarantee that they will be what STEVIE says they are.

Michele

Excellent analysis Michele. IN light of recent comments from the Nov 22, 2013 Guardian Interview, it appears fromthe "tenor" of what has been discussed is that Christine has NOT been formally asked to return and that the "one night gig(s) " were just that. Reading between the lines, there's a LOT of work to be done if and when she is to return to the band. Since these things are all legal, i.e. contractual anyway, there's a LOT to be hashed out for a future tour with her.

See the following quote: " Yet the group's singer, keyboardist and songwriter seems to have caught the bug and has said she would like to rejoin permanently. "I like being with the band, the whole idea of playing music with them," she said. "I miss them all. If they were to ask me I would probably be very delighted … but it hasn't happened so we'll have to wait and see."

http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...-fleetwood-mac

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

She was obviously referring to a song she's written called "Illuminati" which is about her signing "Illume" in Cincinnati

What is funny though is this. If you listen to Dreams backwards you'll hear the words "Illumi-nonsense" as well as "They say witch but that's bulls***", and "There's no power in witchcraft."
So I guess we can fairly say that Ms. Nicks doesn't believe the John Todd story

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by Ulpian

Wow. Well, as a man I find that a little insulting. I'm sure you didn't mean it to be, so I'll run with it. As a man, if the job I was doing had been done by someone else previously, who had pretty much written the book on what I was doing and whom I respected and liked, I'd step back and take a different role in a heartbeat.

As for the pay, what do we know about financial arrangements? They might pay him the same if she came back but instead of doing the main keyboard parts, ask him to take on other stuff in addition to backing keys.

I just think from all I've ever read about him, in his words and others, that he would be totally fine about it. He has other streams of income from other musical jobs and, let's not forget, it's been a huge privilege for him to keep Christine's seat warm these last three tours, but - with great respect to him - that is all he has done.

Thank you for having a rational perspective on the issue. Brett was with the band before Christine left. It's not as if he was replacing her. All this bull**** speculation about his feelings getting hurt by possibly being regulated to his former position is just stupid. And it's not that Lindsey doesn't want Christine back in the band. He is just concerned about how committed she would be. I wish they would at least record another album with her. Stevie is very astute to mention how arduous a tour can be, implying that Christine has to have a strong constitution to take on that task. Though not exactly the same circumstances, she could record with the band sort of in the fashion she did with the Time album, with the expectation that she'll only appear in limited number of live shows.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by Deeshere

I think it's interesting when Stevie talks about a future Fleetwood Mac movie. She says the movie should start the week before she and Lindsey joined Fleetwood Mac, but shouldn't there be a little more back story than that, like Chris joining the band and Stevie and Lindsey marketing the buckingham nicks album that caused Mick to call Lindsey and asked him to join the band?

Actually Fleetwood Mac the band has so many unique stories that they could do a trilogy. First movie would be the beginning of FM before Stevie and Lindsey join 2nd movie would be when Stevie and Lindsey join up to The Dance when Christine leaves and the third would be FM beginning with SYW to whenever. They may even need to do a fourth movie like twilight did to fit it all in.

Stevie addressing a possibility about a some future movie is typical Stevie blather that shouldn't be taken so seriously. Throughout her career there a many examples of her speaking and speculating about things that never come to fruition.

Why would anyone want to see some cheesy film depiction of their history? Most movies of that kind don't come off well. I rather have a well-done comprehensive documentary and/or a big fat book about them from some esteemed author.

[SpyNote]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Stevie said that Lindsey said "come and go" with respect to the appearance in London and how it could have been more than one song. She didn't say he said it about a full time return to the band. So, even Stevie hasn't said what Lindsey's thoughts are on this yet.

Second, if Stevie said "coming and going" wasn't important to her in London, what has Lindsey done to change her mind about that in the few weeks that have passed? Why was she so against his point of view in September, but now he has "influenced" her to his way of thinking? They spent the whole summer together, but she still said coming and going wasn't a big deal to her at one point. She can change her own mind, without him changing it for her, since he hadn't changed it in the last 15 years where Christine is concerned.

The thing is, when Stevie said that coming and going was not important to her, Stevie was also talking about Christine coming on stage to appear in London. She wasn't talking about Christine's full time return to the band in September. Maybe her views have ALWAYS been that Christine should know what she's jumping in to before returning. Stevie was talking about how miserable Christine was 13 years ago and saying that Christine had toured since she was 17 and didn't want to do it anymore back then. Her recent comments about how hard stage shows are sound like hers and not like Lindsey's. She didn't just parrot the "come and go" line. She also tossed in a lot of arguments against a hasty return to the band that Lindsey has NEVER voiced in the press and they don't even sound like something Lindsey would say. He might talk about how horrible band politics and (in the old days) drugs were when they toured. He never said that touring itself was hard.

Plus, we recently saw with the Without You intro where Stevie said that Lindsey told her the band didn't want her, but only wanted him, that Stevie exaggerates what Lindsey says. Lindsey didn't say that on the video. Mick pointed to him, to indicate that the band wanted him and not a duo and all Lindsey did was mutter, "me? Me? Me?" From that Stevie gathered that Lindsey was telling her they wanted a "smoking" guitarist and not his hippie girlfriend, but that's not what Lindsey said. Stevie doesn't always recount Lindsey's words accurately. She intuits what he means and then elaborates on her own. There is some projection there, which is natural.

This reminds me of Sheryl Crow. Do you remember when Lindsey said that Stevie got upset with Sheryl Crow? He said both Mick and Stevie were upset with Sheryl. Mick and Stevie never said they were upset. Lindsey was clearly upset with Sheryl. I think he just put the words in Stevie and Mick's mouths. I don't know if Stevie ever told Lindsey she was mad at Sheryl Crow.

That's the case here. Christine has also confirmed that Lindsey didn't want her to do the first London show. I believe that. But whether Lindsey said she can' just "come and go" or not is a mystery. Especially, since Stevie is saying it now, as if they were her own words. Maybe they always have been. It's not that she doesn't want Christine to return. It's that she wants Christine to know what she's getting into. She is the one that said Christine looked at her with her big blue eyes and said she can't do it anymore and that touring was Stevie's dream, but it wasn't Christine's. She is the one who said she knew Christine was done and meant it. Maybe she is the one who wants to make sure Christine means it now.

You may assume that Lindsey has influenced her behind the scenes, but since she is the one who told us what Lindsey said in the first place and we've never heard from Lindsey, I don't make that assumption.

As for Lindsey's burned her bridges, he said all he meant by that was that Christine sold her home, divorced, moved back to England, etc. He didn't say that it meant that she could not return to the band. I think the connotation was clear to him, so I've never liked his repeated use of the phrase, but that's what we've heard him say all these years. We haven't heard him say "she can't just come and go." But you're right. He likes to repeat himself. Maybe one day we will hear him say it.

Aside from that, Lindsey likes to be blunt and irritating, so his views will probably be very straight forward and maybe unwelcome when we hear them. But there's no guarantee that they will be what STEVIE says they are.

Michele

I don't think his comments address separate issues…London, studio recording, touring. His view on Christine leaving the band has been the same since she left. I think he just prefers Christine being in retirement because it has let him have more creative control of the band. From Say You Will, to the EP, to being called the inspiration in the studio and the stage (according to Mick), he’s been the one in control. As a result, he’s been the happiest he’s ever been in years. And I don’t think it’s just because of his kids. He essentially runs Fleetwood Mac now. But that changes if Christine comes back to the band.

I attribute Stevie’s slight change in attitude (i.e. her latest interviews about Chris) on getting along better with Lindsey. It’s very apparent that they communicate much today than they ever have. They're willing to listen to each other. So I can see her empathizing with Lindsey and his concerns about Christine returning to the band permanently. If anything, I think that's what is coming across in her latest interviews, Lindsey's side of the story. I don't think he's completely against it, but I don't think he's totally on board either.

This is all speculation and entertainment. But that’s what we do as fans who post to a fan board. There’s no problem with talking about it, one way or the other.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

I don't think his comments address separate issues…London, studio recording, touring. His view on Christine leaving the band has been the same since she left. I think he just prefers Christine being in retirement because it has let him have more creative control of the band. From Say You Will, to the EP, to being called the inspiration in the studio and the stage (according to Mick), he’s been the one in control. As a result, he’s been the happiest he’s ever been in years. And I don’t think it’s just because of his kids. He essentially runs Fleetwood Mac now. But that changes if Christine comes back to the band.

Yes, but Stevie and Lindsey were getting along the whole tour, so when she said there could have been more than one song from Christine, but Lindsey's words were "she can't just come and go" she was getting along with him THEN, presumably. I just don't understand the assertion that she was speaking her own mind in London, but now she's speaking Lindsey's mind. Only a couple of months have passed since then.

If Lindsey was talking about Christine rejoining the band when Stevie said that in London (which I don't think he was, he was only talking about her guest appearance) then nothing has changed. Stevie was speaking independently in London and now she's just quoting Lindsey? If that's true, I'd like to know what he did between now and London to turn her around that he didn't do before London? Maybe HE'S the Supreme and his powers have gotten stronger over time, so he can do things to Stevie now that he couldn't do in September.

And the fact is, Stevie has never said Lindsey didn't want Christine back in the band. When she said all of them asked Christine to change her mind, she emphasized every single ONE of them. I don't think she meant 3 of us and not Lindsey. And she said it's Christine's band and she can come back if she wants to. When it came to the London appearances, she indicated that Lindsey had a say in that (and then Christine did too), but she's talking differently now. She's not saying anything about Lindsey right now. I think if the subject was the same as it was then, then she'd invoke Lindsey now, like she did then.

Unless of course she's not saying Lindsey's name to protect him -- which would be curious, since she singled him out as the only one limiting Christine's involvement in the London appearances, just two months ago. Why would she clam up about him now, if what she is doing is voicing his opinion?

But anyway, Stevie's comments about Christine are similar to what they were in 2003/2004 when she finally accepted that Christine wasn't coming back. So, I don't see anything new or newly "influenced" about them at all.

Michele

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

He essentially runs Fleetwood Mac now. But that changes if Christine comes back to the band.

You think? See, I would say that's untrue. Christine said in 1997 (Best Buy) that they all form a bed on which Lindsey rolls around and does whatever he wants, so I think he always ran the band's stage show. The only difference is he got to do more of his own songs with her 1/3 gone and, of course, the piano was less a focal point. But in terms of the band's sound and arrangements live, I think he always had control of that.

He loses space and time (and songs) upon her return, but I don't think he loses control. And I don't think he was happy about her leaving in the first place. I mean, I think he liked it in time and grew into the 1/3 room she opened up, but I think he was upset when she initially decided not to tour with them.

Michele