FWIW question... - Page 4

Ghosty · #46 04-30-2011, 09:04 AM

i used to think she and rick would be cute together, but i didn't know he was married. maybe she could find mr. right if she stopped dating all the mr. married.

CADreaming · #47 04-30-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Just a small correction: Stevie's stay in rehab for the Klonopin addiction happened in late '93, not 1995, and the first tour afterward was for 'Street Angel.' Carlos Rios was on that tour. As was the married Rick Vito.

I did read the rehab stay was Dec. '93-Jan. '94. But, the article said it was about "someone whoe stood by her '95." Possibilities are that the article was inaccurate, Stevie herself said '95 and they went with it, she went into rehab more than we know, Lindsey was around her during that period as Ghosty speculated, or just that it's about someone else. I already posted the reason why I thought Lindsey was a candidate for the subject matter.

It's also interesting, as I was researching the time frame, I read she wrote "Love Is" in Jan. '95 after she got out of rehab. I would guess it is probably about the same person.

Jondalar · #48 04-30-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

I did read the rehab stay was Dec. '93-Jan. '94. But, the article said it was about "someone whoe stood by her '95." Possibilities are that the article was inaccurate, Stevie herself said '95 and they went with it, she went into rehab more than we know, Lindsey was around her during that period as Ghosty speculated, or just that it's about someone else. I already posted the reason why I thought Lindsey was a candidate for the subject matter.

It's also interesting, as I was researching the time frame, I read she wrote "Love Is" in Jan. '95 after she got out of rehab. I would guess it is probably about the same person.

In that new article, stevie says if anything happened to Lindsey, he would be the first one over and vice versa, too

CADreaming · #49 04-30-2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghosty

i thought it was said lindsey was at several street angel shows, which surprised me when i heard that. so he did seem to be around her at least a little in 94. hmmm.....and now she's almost gushing about the guy...

when i was on vaca one summer in RI i could have swore i saw sn and lb drive by - lol!!! i'm sure it was not them, but it just sort of cracked me up. i don't remember the year, i'd have to go check in my photo album. but it was either 92, 93, or 94. it was newport RI. and the woman's hair was long and straight - guess that rules out summer of 94 with the krimping!

Great stories, btw.

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I've only sort of skimmed through this thread, so forgive me if this thought has already been raised, but...

If this song were about Stevie, wouldn't she have just said so? I mean, she has no qualms whatsoever about talking about when a song is about Lindsey. She just did so re: one of the verses of "Moonlight." Why would she beat around the bush and say, vaguely, that the song is about someone who helped her through a difficult time, when she could have just as easily said that it's about Lindsey?

Not necessarily. That's just the way she rolls. She's kept a lot of stuff secret or has at the least danced around the subjects. I don't blame her - it's her life, she's laying it out there in song, she doesn't need to give away everything. Plus, I think sometimes things are just too close to the heart to blab the entire story. I don't know just my cup of coffee ramblings...

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In that new article, stevie says if anything happened to Lindsey, he would be the first one over and vice versa, too

Good point!

Josh2003 · #50 04-30-2011, 09:45 AM

Wasn't she collaborating a bit with Jesse Valenzuela of the Gin Blossoms a bit around this time? According the the Enchanted booklet, they met in '95 and he worked with her on some music around this time (It's Late, eventually Twisted). She says that his friendship was something she had come to treasure.

Amlyn · #51 04-30-2011, 09:56 AM

I always wondered how the reconciliation process between SnL occurred after the fight in '87.

I think I remember reading that a few weeks or a month after that incident went down in '87 that SnL talked again or something, but it wasn't anything of substance. And then we know Lindsey showed up for was it the last show of the BTM tour where Stevie has that "I hope Lindsey will be my friend and sing with me again" or some variation of that Landslide dedication where he came out to play with her and then there's the Inauguration where it was pretty much a one night only thing and then bam, in 1996 he records Twisted with her. Which to me translates to some sort of contact between those two sometime in the mid-90s.

CADreaming · #52 04-30-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh2003

Wasn't she collaborating a bit with Jesse Valenzuela of the Gin Blossoms a bit around this time? According the the Enchanted booklet, they met in '95 and he worked with her on some music around this time (It's Late, eventually Twisted). She says that his friendship was something she had come to treasure.

Yes, she did work with him. Cool read. I mean, I definitely would not put him in the category of possible subjects, but it was interesting to read.

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I always wondered how the reconciliation process between SnL occurred after the fight in '87.

I think I remember reading that a few weeks or a month after that incident went down in '87 that SnL talked again or something, but it wasn't anything of substance. And then we know Lindsey showed up for was it the last show of the BTM tour where Stevie has that "I hope Lindsey will be my friend and sing with me again" or some variation of that Landslide dedication where he came out to play with her and then there's the Inauguration where it was pretty much a one night only thing and then bam, in 1996 he records Twisted with her. Which to me translates to some sort of contact between those two sometime in the mid-90s.

Right. He dodged the explanation on that pretty sloppily if you watch The Dance rehearsal video. When they asked how that duet came about, he folded it into he and Mick working on his stuff and they brought in Stevie to be a part of that. I'm like, so how does Stevie doing a song for a soundtrack work into your stuff exactly?

Jondalar · #53 04-30-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh2003

Wasn't she collaborating a bit with Jesse Valenzuela of the Gin Blossoms a bit around this time? According the the Enchanted booklet, they met in '95 and he worked with her on some music around this time (It's Late, eventually Twisted). She says that his friendship was something she had come to treasure.

That's interesting because didn't a younger boyfriend breakup with Stevie when he found out how much she got payed for Landslide?

jellyman10 · #54 04-30-2011, 10:12 AM

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That's interesting because didn't a younger boyfriend breakup with Stevie when he found out how much she got payed for Landslide?

I'm pretty sure it was she who ended it and that it was the huge payout from the Dixie Chicks cover. She said it was someone who was struggling in the music business and that she couldn't be with someone who couldn't be happy for her about something like that. DC cover was 2002, I think.

CADreaming · #55 04-30-2011, 10:17 AM

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That's interesting because didn't a younger boyfriend breakup with Stevie when he found out how much she got payed for Landslide?

Oh, yeah - I can't find the exact quote right now. But, the Dixie Chicks recorded in 2002 and Stevie won a BMI Song of the Year for it in 2003.

Amlyn · #56 04-30-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

Yes, she did work with him. Cool read. I mean, I definitely would not put him in the category of possible subjects, but it was interesting to read.

Right. He dodged the explanation on that pretty sloppily if you watch The Dance rehearsal video. When they asked how that duet came about, he folded it into he and Mick working on his stuff and they brought in Stevie to be a part of that. I'm like, so how does Stevie doing a song for a soundtrack work into your stuff exactly?

Exactly, he makes is sound like the rest of them were all happily jamming and Stevie was a holdout. Oh well, we know how the next 15 years after that unfolded. Well, i think we know enough to scratch the surface. I'm convinced there's a whole lot we don't know. (And want to know.)

CADreaming · #57 04-30-2011, 10:41 AM

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Exactly, he makes is sound like the rest of them were all happily jamming and Stevie was a holdout. Oh well, we know how the next 15 years after that unfolded. Well, i think we know enough to scratch the surface. I'm convinced there's a whole lot we don't know. (And want to know.)

And probably will never know. But, I didn't get the impression he was saying Stevie was a hold out. I think there was more to it than that and she must have felt left out of what they were doing.

Johnny Stew · #58 04-30-2011, 10:42 AM

It's possible that the interviewer assigned the wrong year to the event while writing the article. It's also very possible Stevie did, during the interview! ("We were going out on the Wild Heart Tour -- I think it was 1984.") lol.

Just seems to me that if she were going to be terrified about an impending tour, it would have been the first tour post-Klonopin. Especially since we know she was insecure about her weight and unhappy with the album.

Also to add, if she & Lindsey did have a relationship around this time, I wouldn't think that it would be considered "forbidden." She was single, he was single, there was nothing stopping them from being together if they wanted to. Now, if the person who helped her through this difficult time happened to be married....

Anyway, just my own speculation.

Amlyn · #59 04-30-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

And probably will never know. But, I didn't get the impression he was saying Stevie was a hold out. I think there was more to it than that and she must have felt left out of what they were doing.

Yeah, holdout wasn't the right word. I like your description better.

CADreaming · #60 04-30-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

It's possible that the interviewer assigned the wrong year to the event while writing the article. It's also very possible Stevie did, during the interview! ("We were going out on the Wild Heart Tour -- I think it was 1984.") lol.

Just seems to me that if she were going to be terrified about an impending tour, it would have been the first tour post-Klonopin. Especially since we know she was insecure about her weight and unhappy with the album.

Also to add, if she & Lindsey did have a relationship around this time, I wouldn't think that it would be considered "forbidden." She was single, he was single, there was nothing stopping them from being together if they wanted to. Now, if the person who helped her through this difficult time happened to be married....

Anyway, just my own speculation.

Oh, yeah - I totally hear you. It's also a great speculative point that she says it's "STILL forbidden" and "STILL outrageous"!