Queen Of Rock? You decide!

[LikeAWillow]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

Some people actually get paid to 'not have a life'. 'True art' and 'bad grammar' are different things. No, I wouldn't say that to Bob Dylan because I don't need to.

And some artists actually use bad grammar to...creat good art! Hint: Stevie Nicks isn't one of them. Tori Amos and Bruce Springsteen are, though, and their writing comes off as more intelligent for it.

[ButterCookie]

Originally Posted by SapphireSister

What's your point?

So why don't you just stick to Ms. McVie and her proper English? Or better yet, tell Stevie to take some grammar lessons from her.

My point is, that caring about grammar isn't a case of not having a life.

I do stick to Chris, thanks At least she's got a convincing accent for her proper mofo'in English

[LikeAWillow]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

My point is, that caring about grammar isn't a case of not having a life.

And even if it were, I'd take the higher IQ over the life any day

[SapphireSister]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

My point is, that caring about grammar isn't a case of not having a life.

That was a actually a Stevie reference as in "I'm not a witch, get a life" so I did not mean it as seriously as you may have taken it.

[Christopher]

OMG, this is really a slippery slope, when we start mulling over who is the reigning Queen of Rock!! It's an un-winnable war! So let the victors be Stevie, Debbie & Tina. TIED
They all have had huge impact's in music and pop culture in their own unique, varied ways. That is why they all STAND OUT as originals (period!!)

Having said that, Stevie is my favorite female singer in music overall since 1981, and no-one has ever come close to knocking her out of that spot...and I love a diverse potpourri of music genres.

So go ahead....HIT it! knock each other out.........

[golddustdrummer]

I had to vote for Joan Jett! as a fellow female musician she's had more of an influence on me wanting to rock than any of the others. Love the majority of the nominees...but I've got no idea who Kim Gordon is lol

[Hawkeye]

The only living/Active competion for Stevie for me is Ann Wilson. And of the 2 Anne's voice has clearly hald up WAY better. And like someone said, compare their 2 versions of Rock and Roll, although liets be fair the originator of that song, robert Plant can't do it justice like Anne anymore either. And I guess even Stevie at her vocal peak in the 70's didn't have a voice as strong as Anne. The only edge she had was in wild off track incoherentness mixed in with her powerful vocals.

But I really don't understand the whole Blondie/Debbie Harry thing

[tilthefirefades]

Originally Posted by carrie721

i just have to assume you're f*cking with me now, if you're saying that ann wilson sounds like a goat.

Haha no, the other way around.

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

Well, now I'm not feeling so lazy.

Debbie has more to fall back on too, actually. Pop, Rock, the first white female to top the Billboard Hot 100 with rap music, Jazz, blues, folk, punk, surf, reggae and calypso, to name but a few. If we're comparing what genre's each has covered that is.

In New York when Blondie formed, rock music was a mans world and Debbie went there. She went there with Blondie and came out of it the most successfull punk band in history. Without Debbie Harry artists like Madonna and Lady Gaga wouldn't exist (I'm not saying I like them, but look at how successfull they are.) She made women in rock acceptable and abolished the taboo that went with her initial title.

Lyrically, I'm yet to hear a Blondie song that is gramatically incorrect. And - I do know it's not 'rock' - Heart of Glass was one of the first tracks to be recorded on 24 tracks as opposed to 12 tracks (it may actually be a different number but the 24 is the main point)

If you ask females in rock who their biggest influence is, 8/10 say Debbie Harry.

Hmmm, to quote you "LOLno"

First off, no rock. Atomic gets close, as do others, but only in the sense of "hey, that's a rockin' song!"

Grammar really doesn't matter, just listen to 90% of music.

Yes, Debbie Harry is amazingggg to say the least. But she just doesn't compare

Stevie is number 4 here, behind Ann Wilson, Grace Slick, and Janis Joplin.
http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/p...alists-fe.html

Stevie is 17 here, Debbie 23
http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/p...ts-female.html

Sadly 2 links is all I can find outside of other forums, feel free to post more.

Madonna cites her influences as Led Zeppelin, the Carpenters, and the Supremes. So if Debbie paved the way for her, she isn't aware of it. Stevie paved the way much more than her, Janis paved the way for Stevie much more. It's an endless cycle really.

I can't find much on Debbie's influence either, what artists cite her as a huge influence?

[Nikolaj]

Deb Harry was great, and it sounds like she has a new Blondie album that could help her with this sort of poll. Debbie was gorgeous, an icon, wrote well, sang well, and has the brilliant 'Parallel Lines' album. I still enjoy 'Eat To The Beat' in its entirety. The other albums- for me, ehhh. To me, her most 'rocking' vocal was on that soundtrack song, 'Call Me', I still love it, even though it was played to death and it's subjective as to whether 'Call Me' was even a rock song. It was good, whatever it was.
Deb had great style, great presence, and a voice that she used well. She had the musical innovation to introduce white audiences to a form of rap with Rapture and likely was a huger influence on black culture than on white with that one song. That's an impressive accomplishment for a white woman, although I dislike rap music- I should, I'm a white man. (I hated rap in my 20s, so it's not that I'm now a middle aged white man!)
Deb Harry's voice? I liked it a lot, don't know that it's a great instrument. And I think 'The Tide Is High' is a God-awful horrible song and maybe killed Blondie's career. Still, no-one has a perfect career, but Deb herself was pretty damned perfect, and also has writing talent. She was a great icon of the 70s and 80s. Greatest female rock singer, or 'queen of rock and roll'?? if some say that, I won't argue, but I can say that she was awesome, maybe will be awesome on the coming album, and that's good enough for me.
I don't consider Tina Turner a rock and roll singer. Sorry. And I like her, more than a little.
Joan Jett competed in a boys game and is very good live performer, tons of charisma. Her voice- effective, but, lets face it, limited. Her guitar playing- very good- she's got those chords she can play down and down well. Not a lot of range. But she's great at what she does.
Stevie- heck yeah, though she's been bordering on dull for a long time. The '75 to '89 Stevie wins hands down,for me.
Someone wrote that by the time Elvis Presley died, he was no longer the 'King' of Rock and Roll. Ask your father, or grandfather, whichever the case. Better yet, ask their wives. I'm no Elvis megafan at all, but he always was and still is widely recognized as The King of Rock and Roll. And at his death, it was the term most widely used to describe him. (What were they gonna say, master thespian?)
Janis Joplin, Oh, Janis. So good and also so horrible, in an excellent way. Her recording career lasted all of 3 years. Historically, her presence jarred the country and she scared the hell of out of anyone over the age of 30. That's a talent in itself! I think she had some major talent that became obstructed (she actually could sing if you explore her work) when she let 'screaming freak show' define and then kill her.
Ann Wilson- the best pipes ever, I think. Should have had a longer span of hitmaking years, though Heart had two very successful runs. What a singer.
Bonnie Raitt? What a beautiful vocal instrument, at times. 'That Song About The Midway' alone makes me want to like her, always.
Queen of Rock and Roll? ****, isn't it Lady Gaga?
And no, I don't like her. Yet. I'm being encouaged to try to.
This is The Ledge. So, I'll conclude that Stevie Nicks has to be the correct answer.

[ButterCookie]

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades

Sadly 2 links is all I can find outside of other forums, feel free to post more.

I can't. I've gone back to Ms. McVie

[tilthefirefades]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

I can't. I've gone back to Ms. McVie

Good choice Chris is...... *shudders in awe*

Why vs. every Blondie song

Why

[ButterCookie]

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades

Good choice Chris is...... *shudders in awe*

Why vs. every Blondie song

Why

Oh my don't do that to me, it's 8am and my brain can't deal with that kind of comparison yet!

[Stevie's~Prince]

Originally Posted by Nikolaj

This is The Ledge. So, I'll conclude that Stevie Nicks has to be the correct answer.

[DefDumbandBlond]

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades

First off, no rock. Atomic gets close, as do others, but only in the sense of "hey, that's a rockin' song!"

God then I don't know what I'd consider:
One Way Or Another
11:59
Living In the Real World
Nothing Is Real But The Girl
Maria
No Exit
- to name just a few.

OF COURSE they are rock songs. No Blondie isn't hard rock or whatever but they are still rock and roll musicians. They are in the R&R Hall of Fame, not the elevator music hall of fame.

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades

Madonna cites her influences as Led Zeppelin, the Carpenters, and the Supremes. So if Debbie paved the way for her, she isn't aware of it. Stevie paved the way much more than her, Janis paved the way for Stevie much more. It's an endless cycle really.

Madonna has mentioned that Debbie was one of her idols in the 80's & 90's, and while she was recording ''Hard Candy'' she listened to lots of Debbie's solo stuff & Blondie. Plus the influence that D.H. had on her is pretty obvious. Read more in the link below, both are very aware of each other.

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades

I can't find much on Debbie's influence either, what artists cite her as a huge influence?

http://www2.drury.edu/ametz/blondin2.htm

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

The only living/Active competion for Stevie for me is Ann Wilson. And of the 2 Anne's voice has clearly hald up WAY better. And like someone said, compare their 2 versions of Rock and Roll, although liets be fair the originator of that song, robert Plant can't do it justice like Anne anymore either. And I guess even Stevie at her vocal peak in the 70's didn't have a voice as strong as Anne. The only edge she had was in wild off track incoherentness mixed in with her powerful vocals.

But I really don't understand the whole Blondie/Debbie Harry thing

I agree with this. Ann's voice is something to behold. There is just no one that compare to her vocally. And the stuff that Heart did, especially in the 70s was sorta of on par with the Mac. But Nicks is more orginal. There is just no one like her. She really created something totally unique and her songwriting outweighs Ann's. Basically, Heart sold out.