Please Sign Petition AGAINST Federal Marriage Amendment - Page 4

irishgrl · #46 06-06-2006, 08:26 PM

AT LAST!
you finally admit you need straight men and women to do your dirty work!

DavidMn · #47 06-06-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by snowman

I am not a Bush fan. But I don't believe gay marriage should considered a recognized institution. Should this become a constitution ammendment?- no. Am I a gay hater?-no. But homosexuality is an anomoly(sp) it is not the norm. Gay marriage does allow for equality, recognition, security, etc but there is one very fundemental issue that needs to be understood:

If same sex marriages were the norm- if we all were married to the same sex- our hereditary line would vanish. We could not develop offspring. We as human beings would vanish. Those that favor gay marriage are only looking at the human rights issue. I am pointing out the evolutuonary isse.

I have presented my opinions on this issue before, and received a ton of critcism, as would be expected I'll receive it again.

There are alot of great people in here, gay and srtaight. My intention is not to create anger, but to present an opposing view.

Fair enough. You're more than entitled to it.

irishgrl · #48 06-06-2006, 08:29 PM

Again, I LOVE you my friend

DavidMn · #49 06-06-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by irishgrl

Again, I LOVE you my friend

I mean it is a free country. If we took away everyone's right to think differently than we do, where would we be?

irishgrl · #50 06-06-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar

Are you under the impression that by recognizing gay marriage, suddenly the majority of people will turn gay, marry into these barren unions, thereby putting the continuation of the species in jeopardy?
Because if that's not what you think then I'm not sure why you oppose recognizing gay marriage, given your post.

while I agree with most of what you have to say, I have to point out that SEX and MARRIAGE are two different concepts. you can beget children only thru SEX. you might be able go codify "marriage" but you cant change the facts of SEX. it takes male/female to have sex and create offspring, but you can have any type of "marriage" situation you want.....

strandinthewind · #51 06-06-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by snowman

I am not a Bush fan. But I don't believe gay marriage should considered a recognized institution. Should this become a constitution ammendment?- no. Am I a gay hater?-no. But homosexuality is an anomoly(sp) it is not the norm. Gay marriage does allow for equality, recognition, security, etc but there is one very fundemental issue that needs to be understood:

If same sex marriages were the norm- if we all were married to the same sex- our hereditary line would vanish. We could not develop offspring. We as human beings would vanish. Those that favor gay marriage are only looking at the human rights issue. I am pointing out the evolutuonary isse.

I have presented my opinions on this issue before, and received a ton of critcism, as would be expected I'll receive it again.

There are alot of great people in here, gay and srtaight. My intention is not to create anger, but to present an opposing view.

With all due respect (and I have it for you

) - the proposed marriage amendments at the Federal level and the state levels have nothing to do with the continuation of the human species. After all, marriage is a man made institution and nature indicates humans can procreate without it

So, if government sanctioning of marriage of any type ceased to exist, people could still get married and have kids or have them as a single parent. That will never change.

So, the premise of your argument is specious as it pertains to the amendments.

What these amendments are about is promoting one religion over another, which, as an unmarried American who pays the same taxes, does not sit well with me. Sadly, many cannot see it that way. They think that people can just contract into the same rights automatically given to married people and that is just false.

In the end, I wish you could see that it is not about procreation, etc., but the rights given to one group over another.

Put it this way, how would you feel if the tables were turned and you saw all these people getting Federal and State benefits you could not get just because of your religious beliefs. I'd be pissed

Tone is hard to tell from the written word - so here is mine - respectful and educational

strandinthewind · #52 06-06-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I didn't realize the entire human population was gay..

You wish you whore

irishgrl · #53 06-06-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

You wish you whore

shouldnt you be renting a balloon about now? GAWD knows we need to get away...

Sugar · #54 06-06-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by irishgrl

while I agree with most of what you have to say, I have to point out that SEX and MARRIAGE are two different concepts. you can beget children only thru SEX. you might be able go codify "marriage" but you cant change the facts of SEX. it takes male/female to have sex and create offspring, but you can have any type of "marriage" situation you want.....

Well, I was first just trying to figure out how this argument works.

I'm not exactly sure what your point is...

Of course sex and marriage are different.

strandinthewind · #55 06-06-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by irishgrl

shouldnt you be renting a balloon about now? GAWD knows we need to get away...

Lord Child - I have enough hot air in me to float it!!!!!!

DavidMn · #56 06-06-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Lord Child - I have enough hot air in me to float it!!!!!!

Speaking of air, or lack theirof, my friend told me he was going to a penis-pumping party. I was like what the hell is that, and whehe told me I thought, jeez what size queens these people must be.

irishgrl · #57 06-06-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar

Well, I was first just trying to figure out how this argument works.

I'm not exactly sure what your point is...

Of course sex and marriage are different.

look........it isnt MY argument, its a GOP argument.......as if GAY relationships somehow invalidated the human condition~ when as we all know, you cant have children without a male/female component........

but, if you pay attention to GOP propaganda, the GAYS are ruining this country (how???? I dont know....)

frankly, its all a political ruse to get the doofuses riled up. nothing else seems to do it quite like the prospect of GAY *anything*.......

strandinthewind · #58 06-06-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar

Well, I was first just trying to figure out how this argument works.

I'm not exactly sure what your point is...

Of course sex and marriage are different.

Exaclty - so why do the Fed. Govt. and the state govts. have to sanction it in any way. Why can't you just marry as many or whatever you want and draw up your own contracts to leave them your property. Also, if I as one male on hundreds of millions do not procreate, there is no harm to society because many others will. I mean women past menopause marry all the time - surely that is not about procreation, but sex and commitment, which they can get through their church. Why does the govt. at any level have to give them rights above others?

I will never get it is about anything other than the promotion of one religion over another. Sadly, people just cannot make that connection. Maybe it is because so many of us come from the norm of a married home?