Hey Heart fans...

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

Stevie's problem isn't comparable to what you described. Stevie doesn't play a "greatest hits" set or a "rare and new" set. She plays a totally bizarre set filled with a few hits and bunch of non-hits that she recycles tour after tour, along with some boring covers. It's the latter that bothers me. I couldn't care less if she played Dreams, GDW, Rhiannon, etc. if she would stop playing Enchanted, HAEWAFY, Outside the Rain, I Need To Know (okay, she finally stopped playing that one).

well I couldn't agree with you less, but ok

granted, imo, one can't compare Stevie to Heart (as you point out)...just can't, but I was trying to just give an example to compare some usual criticism with another artist

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by amber

Hmmm. Even if I don't know a certain Heart song, I have trouble believing that anything Anne is singing could be that disappointing. Since she's practically the best singer in the world, and all...

ehhh...to me, it got old...quick (think back, this is during their Lovemongers days as well)

and Ann is not the best singer in the world, imo...close, but not the best

[amber]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

ehhh...to me, it got old...quick (think back, this is during their Lovemongers days as well)

and Ann is not the best singer in the world, imo...close, but not the best

keyword: practically.

Yeah, I guess that could happen.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by amber

Hmmm. Even if I don't know a certain Heart song, I have trouble believing that anything Anne is singing could be that disappointing. Since she's practically the best singer in the world, and all...

Oh Lord, they have picked some clunker songs over the years, and have written some that even Ann's voice couldn't save. Still love 'em though.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

granted, imo, one can't compare Stevie to Heart (as you point out)...just can't, but I was trying to just give an example to compare some usual criticism with another artist

I used to compare the two a lot, in the 70's, anyway. That was mostly due to the imagery used, the clothes, and the harmonies. But Heart was always way more rock and roll than Stevie and their career took totally different trajectory in the 80's. They did a complete sell out with those cover songs, had a great second act in their careers. After three or four records, they ditched the major label thing and did exactly what they wanted. They sound very satisfied with that too, raising families, going on the road, and recording exactly what they want without interference. Seems like a good balance and they appear very satisfied creatively. It's an interesting comparison to Stevie, really. Considering how they both started out.

[amber]

Originally Posted by sparky

Oh Lord, they have picked some clunker songs over the years, and have written some that even Ann's voice couldn't save. Still love 'em though.

You've ruined my naive, childlike sense of wonder.

Like the first time I heard Street Angel....

[sparky]

Originally Posted by amber

You've ruined my naive, childlike sense of wonder.

Ahh, my work here is done.

Like the first time I heard Street Angel....

You ? The Street Angel brigade ?

Honestly, I am hard pressed to think Heart has recorded anything as bad as
Docklands or Jane. But maybe. Okay, not as bad as Docklands or SIAB or LAHGTP. Not nearly as bad as those. Or TMMS.

[amber]

Originally Posted by sparky

Ahh, my work here is done.


You ? The Street Angel brigade ?

Honestly, I am hard pressed to think Heart has recorded anything as bad as
Docklands or Jane. But maybe. Okay, not as bad as Docklands or SIAB or LAHGTP. Not nearly as bad as those. Or TMMS.

well, I like it now, but when I got it I had only really heard Timespace and Best of FM (green) so I thought...you know...that all Stevie's songs rocked out and were cool. It was quite a rude awakening, but I soon got over it. IMO, it's just like every other Stevie album - I like about half of it, maybe a bit more. Except TISL, of which I like even less. Maybe Heart hasn't recorded anything that bad, and I love her voice, but she doesn't have Stevie's voice, so...uh...they're tied?

[eclipse]

Heart Live in the early 80's were excellent!!
Saw them a few times...(Once with a "nobody" named John Cougar, for an opening act) ...Needless to say, he made quite the impression...he didn't play any instruments with his band. He just sang and danced to the music...
BUT,
the encore was just John , an accoustic guitar, one light shining down on him and he starts strumming... and he covered
The Stones "Cant always get what you want"
I mean it takes alot of balls to cover The Stones or Mick Jagger ...and accoustic? and alone? and well??...
He gave me goosebumps....but enough about John...

Heart ROCKED and also sang sweet melodies, played an array of instruments and were so amazingly talented. I had collected most of their music, so I knew the songs they were playing. Today, I think ,like Jason said, they have mellowed and are not so into the Rocking out display they used to presant, but if it is a "reunion, or collection or best of" type show.
Get ready to be amazed

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by sparky

Like Stevie, their best songwriting years are far behind them, though they crack one or two out of the park with each album.

"Sand" from Whirlygig.

The fans are mostly nostalgia fans, and the new songs aren't as great as the old ones. It happens.

Ahh, Nostalgia Fans. The ironic cancer/lifeblood of the dinosaur rock industry.

Originally Posted by sparky

Honestly, I am hard pressed to think Heart has recorded anything as bad as Docklands or Jane. But maybe. Okay, not as bad as Docklands or SIAB or LAHGTP. Not nearly as bad as those. Or TMMS.

*** cough *** cough *** cough *** Private Audition *** cough *** cough *** cough ***

Heart's track record is waaaaaaaaay worse on crappy songwriting than Stevie's.

Originally Posted by amber

Hmmm. Even if I don't know a certain Heart song, I have trouble believing that anything Anne is singing could be that disappointing.

See above. While Ann can sing just about anything, if the material is bad- it's bad. And having a fantastic vocalist sing inferior songs only makes the inferiority more apparant.

Since she's practically the best singer in the world, and all...

Is the best singer in the world, dear- is.

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by The Tower

"Sand" from Whirlygig.

probably my favorite song by the sisters

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

probably my favorite song by the sisters

Ooooooh, dahlink- they opened some of the shows from their last tour leg with this one. Just the two of them with acoustic guitars... (!!!!!!)

That sucker made the hair on the back of my neck stand up on end, baby.

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by The Tower

Ooooooh, dahlink- they opened some of the shows from their last tour leg with this one. Just the two of them with acoustic guitars... (!!!!!!)

That sucker made the hair on the back of my neck stand up on end, baby.

yeah, I know what you mean. I usually can't listen to it without shivering it's so moving.

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

well I couldn't agree with you less, but ok

granted, imo, one can't compare Stevie to Heart (as you point out)...just can't, but I was trying to just give an example to compare some usual criticism with another artist

Actually, I was smashed when I wrote my post, and don't even know why I wrote that. I thought I had learned the "don't turn the computer on after 4 cosmos" lesson a long time ago.

[Mageboy25]

Jupiters Dump, I mean Jupiters Darling was so so, nothing to get to over excited about.

Private Audition was like a really bad broadway musical on acid. Passionworks wasnt really any better either. To me half of the material on their 70s albums is boring, bland and underproduced.