Almost one year later - Page 4

WelshWitchPMD · #46 11-28-2005, 09:09 PM

From John McVie

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpo...2&postcount=79

Lindsey might be doing his thing this summer.

shackin'up · #47 11-29-2005, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention

And if he doesn't know that now, he's a bigger idiot than I took him for.

I can't read this otherwise than that you take him for an idiot.

Hmmm.

shackin'up · #48 11-29-2005, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm

It's as though we're all in an abusive relationship with the man. He smacks us around a little, promises he won't do it again, then we go around making excuses and apologies when people ask about our black eyes because we think we can change him. I'm glad to see some other folks in this thread refusing to believe him anymore. It's time to take back the night from Lindsey Buckingham!

I love him.

shackin'up · #49 11-29-2005, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention

You assume that he'd try to release a solo album through Warners again.

I don't think we'll get another album from him, no way. But I think he's wise enough to know now that Warners doesn't want anything to do with his solo music.

So Warners are the idiots.
If they market him in the independent/alternative field in stead of AOR-section and bring out stuff with things like Gift Of Screws and Shuffle Riff and some other cranky gems they'll be surprised what comes from it. These songs could be flagships in the alternative popscene.

Jyqm · #50 11-29-2005, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WelshWitchPMD

From John McVie

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpo...2&postcount=79

Lindsey might be doing his thing this summer.

I've no doubt that that's what Lindsey told John.

WelshWitchPMD · #51 11-29-2005, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm

I've no doubt that that's what Lindsey told John.

But what is it that Lindsey is doing this summer? Having a cook-out?

LINDSEY#1FAN · #52 11-29-2005, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Yeah, I can understand the believer part & about not being sure but hoping anyways, etc. But I often see these claims of "MY SOURCE ASSURES ME THAT LINDSEY'S ALBUM WILL BE HERE ANY DAY NOW" blah blah blah ... that's pretty silly to me. People find it hard to believe that I go back so long. But as far as Lindsey is concerned, this is a pattern I have seen repeated -- & I'm not exaggerating -- probably thirty times. So skepticism is really quite healthy in this context.

I've heard & seen "sources" turn out to be oh, so wrong many, many times. And we've all heard promises from the band members' lips themselves just fall into the nether reaches, over & over again until the last syllable of recorded time, blah blah blah. The "assurances" from every corner, every year, year after year, mean nothing after this long. I'm an old man, Romy, & I've learned a little something from history, I like to think.

Besides, who needs a new Buckingham solo album when we already have the ever-fresh masterpiece of quirky pop that is "Law & Order"?

I guess you can believe it when you see it !! I understand that.

I personally have not "waited" for all of these years for a new cd - I didn't even know he did a tour back when he did his solo until after the fact.

I was busy rehabilitating my son in which had an inoperable brain tumor, 2 of them within 2 years, so I was teaching my son how to walk and talk again for about 4 years. I may not have all of the history of Lindsey claiming on making a new cd and such, so I guess that I am just more optimistic than most!!

Sorry if I upset some of you but I just thought it would be nice to share what I heard.

chiliD · #53 11-29-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WelshWitchPMD

But what is it that Lindsey is doing this summer? Having a cook-out?

Starting a 3-on-3 kids' soccer league in Bel Air?

Jyqm · #54 11-29-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ReFleetwoodMac

That's an interesting viewpoint, Lux, and the only thing wrong with it, or at least the only difference between your situation and his, is that he didn't simply "mention it in the past" like you. He first mentioned it ten or so years ago and then kept mentioning it, and effectively promising it, over and over. I think somebody somewhere in this thread likened it to dangling this coveted prize in front of us and every time we think we are about to get it, he snatches it away. Well they used the word 'dangling' anyway.

Exactly. That was me with the "dangling carrot" post, and as I think I also mentioned in that post, if Lindsey doesn't really care to or for whatever reason isn't able to release his music, that's fine. I certainly don't believe that any musician "owes" me anything unless I've already paid for it. But to keep fostering these kinds of expectations by announcing once a year or so, "Oh, I'm working on it, I promise, it'll be done soon, it'll be out by the end of the year or next year" - that's just kind of ****ty and mean.

dissention · #55 11-29-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up

I can't read this otherwise than that you take him for an idiot.

Hmmm.

Well, I love the guy, but he wants to make all his quirky music, offer it up to one of the biggest labels, and have the royal treatment & red carpet rolled out for him. It's unrealistic. If he wants to get his stuff out there so badly, release it independently or sign to a small label. Don't rely on the suits who don't give a flying turkey about you and then roll it into a Mac project when you're finally defeated. But it's his career, he can do what he wants with it.

Jyqm · #56 11-29-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lux

****ty and mean?

Yes, ****ty and mean. Am I losing any sleep over it or even thinking about it when I close my browser window on this thread? Certainly not. But nor am I going to bend over backwards apologizing for the guy and offering ridiculous excuses about 14-year setbacks.

John Run · #57 11-29-2005, 03:03 PM

Lindsey puts out new music when Fleetwood Mac gets together for a Band Meeting and Mick and Lindsey find that they are mutually in real great place.

Mick and Lindsey decide to work on some material together. John adds some bass parts, Stevie puts on her vocals to Lindsey's material. Lindsey does some rearranging of some Stevie Demo's and all of a sudden the next Lindsey Buckingham solo album is complete.

TomBanks147 · #58 11-29-2005, 03:08 PM

I totally agree with Lux. The guy is in his 50's (approaching 60), he has a wife and three young children to look after, he's making music because he WANTS to and he enjoys it. I have no doubt he spends a hell of a lot more time working on it than other musicians (especially ones who have been in it so long as he has)

His solo project 'he was working on, still is working on' is called Say you will. The bulk of that album is material that WAS going to be his solo album. Say you will was going to be a double album so theres obvioulsy songs that didn't make the single disc, still knocking about. There are more than likely songs that just weren't 'Mac' that he's kept. He's only within the past 6 months come of a world tour that was well over a year in endurance on which he had a portable studio he worked in for the majority of his off time. The guy doesn't have to do this and frankly if your so disrespectfull and unapreciative of him you don't deserve to hear any of his work if it is released.

We've got a DVD and a song on a soundtrack, recently, stop your winging. I have no doubt Lindsey will release this solo album WHEN its ready (which i believe to be 2006).

David · #59 11-29-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBanks147

I have no doubt Lindsey will release this solo album WHEN its ready (which i believe to be 2006).

I agree with you, Tom. He'll release it when it's ready rather than before it's ready.

All this brouhaha over my post, a lot of it misread. I was actually only talking about Lindsey indirectly -- or secondarily. My primary point (really, my only point) was that I have heard, over the course of two or more decades, hundreds, maybe thousands, of claims from various people that "Lindsey's album is almost ready & we will see it soon," & that, because I've heard such claims over & over & seen virtually all of them not pan out, I take all such future claims with ... healthy skepticism, was I believe the phrase I used.

Point: neither here nor there directly about Mr. Buckingham, but about all the "my source tells me it's almost ready" stuff, which circulates endlessly, year after year. And really not such a corrosive, nasty point after all ... just a remark, a "something I've noticed" sort of remark.

Postscript: I couldn't possibly be unhappy or enraged about Buckingham's endlessly postponed 4th solo album because I'm interested only in "Law & Order," & that I already have.

Jyqm · #60 11-29-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBanks147

His solo project 'he was working on, still is working on' is called Say you will. The bulk of that album is material that WAS going to be his solo album. Say you will was going to be a double album so theres obvioulsy songs that didn't make the single disc, still knocking about. There are more than likely songs that just weren't 'Mac' that he's kept.

Well of course, there's a good ten or so of them, we all know what they are, and most of us have copies of them. We've had them, along with the songs that ended up on SYW for what, four years? Five? And they were done then.