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Old 09-01-2005, 12:24 PM
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. . . And the use of the term "femi-nazi"? very insulting . . . .
I used femi-nazi waaaaay before Limbaugh

Also, how is repeating Mary's words to her and pointing out that Clinton's penis got him in trouble anything other than factual?

Finally, I guess no women in South Africa will misuse this and/or they are allowed to inflict their own puinishment outside of the law
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:25 PM
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I am not defending anyone. I am just saying that the crime of battery is not a legal remedy. If any partner cheats, the other has no right to maim them. Are we back to Mrs. Bobbitt. I mean this whole auto revenge thing is sick and contrary to our nation of laws.
Cheating is not an issue in South Africa. Rape is. I don't even think their cultural system thinks of "marriage" and "relationships" in the same way at all. Seriously, nice points for American law, but inapplicable to South Africa. Totally inapplicable.
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Cheating is not an issue in South Africa. Rape is. I don't even think their cultural system thinks of "marriage" and "relationships" in the same way at all. Seriously, nice points for American law, but inapplicable to South Africa. Totally inapplicable.
Fine, please apply my comments only to America.
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I used femi-nazi waaaaay before Limbaugh

Also, how is repeating Mary's words to her and pointing out that Clinton's penis got him in trouble anything other than factual?
I'm not talking about the clinton thing, I'm talking about addressing women who are just trying to make points as "male bashers" and "femi-nazis". I felt insulted, and you weren't even talking to me. Doing that is intrinsicly disrespectful. Just my opinion, and how I felt.
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love you, but I think that's rude. And the use of the term "femi-nazi"? very insulting. Besides, I haven't seen one on this board yet. And why would you ever use a term coined by Rush Limbaugh anyway? And even if someone was or wasn't male bashing, your points are still very weak in the context of South Africa. In America, you might have a point. Over there? Your point seems ludicrous to me.
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Plus I don't know why this got into pointing fingers at personalities. Who cares if Irishgrl is focused on what bad men do to good women? We know the opposite exists but it is off topic. The topic here is raping innocent women and children. I do not have any sympathy for those men whatsoever.
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Fine, please apply my comments only to America.
gladly. But we were never talking about America. The condom wasn't even considered to be used in America. It was developed solely for South Africa.
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I'm not talking about the clinton thing, I'm talking about addressing women who are just trying to make points as "male bashers" and "femi-nazis". I felt insulted, and you weren't even talking to me. Doing that is intrinsicly disrespectful. Just my opinion, and how I felt.
Mary is a self described male basher

You, on the other hand, are just a femi-nazi
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Plus I don't know why this got into pointing fingers at personalities. Who cares if Irishgrl is focused on what bad men do to good women? We know the opposite exists but it is off topic. The topic here is raping innocent women and children. I do not have any sympathy for those men whatsoever.
Yes, good point. Excellent, in fact.
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gladly. But we were never talking about America. The condom wasn't even considered to be used in America. It was developed solely for South Africa.
People here were not limiting their application of its use to SA - but so be it. Again, please limit all my reponses to the context of the US.
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Mary is a self described male basher

You, on the other hand, are just a femi-nazi
You can joke, but she just said she was insulted. But besides that, it wasn't part of the point, like Suze said.
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Plus I don't know why this got into pointing fingers at personalities. Who cares if Irishgrl is focused on what bad men do to good women? We know the opposite exists but it is off topic. The topic here is raping innocent women and children. I do not have any sympathy for those men whatsoever.
I though the tone of Mary's post was jarring and typical for her. Am I not allowed to comment on that?

Again, any man who rapes anyone whould be tried and convicted. But the rule of law must prevail over vigilantism - should we go back to lynching or beating people we just think are guilty
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You can joke, but she just said she was insulted. But besides that, it wasn't part of the point, like Suze said.
Boston.com had a huge story on this, one of those deeply fleshed out stories that is pages and pages long. It was so devastating to me. What goes on over there is horrific. There's also a lot of victim blaming that goes on. There is a lot of shame put on the woman who is raped.
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People here were not limiting their application of its use to SA - but so be it. Again, please limit all my reponses to the context of the US.
Who was talking about it for use in America? Surely not anyone but you in the last 3 pages. It's like, you were arguing about something we weren't even talking about. Why?
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I though the tone of Mary's post was jarring and typical for her. Am I not allowed to comment on that?

Again, any man who rapes anyone whould be tried and convicted. But the rule of law must prevail over vigilantism - should we go back to lynching or beating people we just think are guilty
Of course you can comment. I'm just saying that when you get into "you know you are a male hater" that takes it into personal territory. Is that a personal attack? Because it could be perceived that way.
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You can joke, but she just said she was insulted. But besides that, it wasn't part of the point, like Suze said.
Mary likely is insulted by most of the things I say - I think it is because I am a male. Again, if she is insulted by the term male basher, then she should not tout herself as one.

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But besides that, it wasn't part of the point, like Suze said.
So, I can never comment on anything germaine I'll be sure and remind you of that rule the next time you do it
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