Gold Dust Tour DVDs! - Page 4

Nixxxed · #46 08-19-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by David

If you ever get any Wild Heart Tour soundboards, you'd better post about them here, there or somewhere. Or I'll bop youz on the head!

Oh my god! John Kickey ordered you to remove something on your site? What a @$*@!#.

Did you tell him, "The stuff I post is what makes my site infinitely better & more popular than yours"?

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Originally Posted by David

Oh my god! John Kickey ordered you to remove something on your site? What a @$*@!#.

Did you tell him, "The stuff I post is what makes my site infinitely better & more popular than yours"?

Cour · #47 08-19-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SpyNote

The main difference is that John K, Stevie's label, and Mac's fan club (as well Associate Press, and several angry writers) have all contacted me on different occasions to remove content from my site.

But you didn't know if this site has been contacted over the years by any of the people you mentioned. You also don't know if or when this site was contacted by many, many more associates of the band and press that you didn't mention. My point is, the implications for The Penguin might have been just as serious, if not more serious that anything you could have known or imagined for your own site.

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I've never seen that kind of wicked surveillance on these boards, so I thought it would be more discreet to post here where fans would actually be looking for them.

Since this is the number one Fleetwood Mac site and is known to all the band members, management, Warner Bros, etc, etc., it would stand to reason that this is the site that is more closely watched than any other.

You also must have missed the entire Fanclub fiasco and the fact that The Penguin was directly involved. Marty & Lis very graciously allowed the Ledge to be used to fight for the removal of Jonathan Todd for over a year and helped organize the effort.

I'm sure many of the fans here didn't know about the wicked surveillance of your site, most site owners don't usually make that public knowledge. My only point was it seems like you were trying to protect your own site from dangers you knew were out there, but you didn't stop to give the same consideration to this site.

ontheEdgeof17 · #48 08-19-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cour

But you didn't know if this site has been contacted over the years by any of the people you mentioned. You also don't know if or when this site was contacted by many, many more associates of the band and press that you didn't mention. My point is, the implications for The Penguin might have been just as serious, if not more serious that anything you could have known or imagined for your own site.

We talk about bootlegs and outtakes all the time on this board. There are even threads directly related to the Torrent sites. This thread was no different.

estranged4life · #49 08-19-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SpyNote

I've seen Bill work. It's excellent, probably some of the best audience recordings ever captured.

to say while his shows are good, they arent even close to the best audience recordings ever...I have say that mantle to say that belongs to the U2 (ie-March 28,2005 San Diego 4 camera mix...Smokes ANY Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks audience recording I have seen or own, Those folkz at U2Preservation.com are SICK with their quality of videos, Makes even some of the professional shows look pale in comparison) and Bruce Springsteen camp who take video boots of shows to a professional like level.

Cour · #50 08-19-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

We talk about bootlegs and outtakes all the time on this board. There are even threads directly related to the Torrent sites. This thread was no different.

Difference of opinion. Those are freely traded items. These are being sold for $20 each (this time in a group of 6 or 7 shows) and someone is profiting from a band member. That might mean different things to certain people looking at that kind of promotional post.

This is not about my own beliefs and I wouldn't have even commented about the thread had it not been for part of Daniel's response about not posting anything about them on his own site, because he knew it might cause him problems, so he posted about them here instead.

Cour · #51 08-19-2005, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life

to say while his shows are good, they arent even close to the best audience recordings ever...I have say that mantle to say that belongs to the U2 (ie-March 28,2005 San Diego 4 camera mix...Smokes ANY Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks audience recording I have seen or own, Those folkz at U2Preservation.com are SICK with their quality of videos, Makes even some of the professional shows look pale in comparison) and Bruce Springsteen camp who take video boots of shows to a professional like level.

Those guys are truly amazing. They also did other shows where they found a better audio than what was on the DVD so they remixed and synched it with the seperate audio from a different area in the arena, then added in another camera from the other side...crazy stuff and the result is flawless. They've done this a few times. They've got it down to an art form and I'm waiting to see what they have planned for the Fall leg of the US tour because they do plan ahead so they cover each show or try to.

ontheEdgeof17 · #52 08-19-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cour

Difference of opinion. Those are freely traded items. These are being sold for $20 each (this time in a group of 6 or 7 shows) and someone is profiting from a band member. That might mean different things to certain people looking at that kind of promotional post.

The Penguin must not have a problem with it, cuz I see bootlegs being sold on ebay all the time....and it shows up everytime I go into a forum. If they didn't like this behavior, I wouldn't think they would advertise ebay throughout the message board....a well-known place for selling of bootlegs and other items for outrageous profit.

....but you're right...a difference of opinion.

estranged4life · #53 08-19-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cour

Those guys are truly amazing. They also did other shows where they found a better audio than what was on the DVD so they remixed and synched it with the seperate audio from a different area in the arena, then added in another camera from the other side...crazy stuff and the result is flawless. They've done this a few times. They've got it down to an art form and I'm waiting to see what they have planned for the Fall leg of the US tour because they do plan ahead so they cover each show or try to.

if the Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac bootlegs were in the same catergory as those U2Preservation shows then I can tell ya most folkz wouldnt give a flyin' Mongolian clusterf**k if any "official" product ever makes it to the shelves...Sick, Just sick quality shows that blows my mind!!!

Cant wait to see what they have up their sleeves for the Fall U.S. tour shows...I think they will up the ante in how audience recording video bootlegs are to be seen.

ShangriLaTroubl · #54 08-19-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life

if the Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac bootlegs were in the same catergory as those U2Preservation shows then I can tell ya most folkz wouldnt give a flyin' Mongolian clusterf**k if any "official" product ever makes it to the shelves...Sick, Just sick quality shows that blows my mind!!!

Cant wait to see what they have up their sleeves for the Fall U.S. tour shows...I think they will up the ante in how audience recording video bootlegs are to be seen.

No the bootlegs from this Summer tour have been excellent, I have only seen two...but of all the bootlegs I have , they are the best of them all

Chris

Cour · #55 08-19-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

The Penguin must not have a problem with it, cuz I see bootlegs being sold on ebay all the time....and it shows up everytime I go into a forum. If they didn't like this behavior, I wouldn't think they would advertise ebay throughout the message board....a well-known place for selling of bootlegs and other items for outrageous profit.

But it seems clear they do have a problem with it or they wouldn't have a rule prohibiting it.

I think it's clear Ebay and the auction links are viewed differently and that's a whole other can of worms since Ebay can't and/or won't keep the bootlegs off their site

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....but you're right...a difference of opinion.

right....and a different source of information.

estranged4life · #56 08-19-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl

No the bootlegs from this Summer tour have been excellent, I have only seen two...but of all the bootlegs I have , they are the best of them all

Chris

also, I still wished the Stevie Nicks shows would be similar to the U2 shows (I received a few "Street Angel" shows on DVD recently, And all I can say is that they are typical of the Stevie Nicks bootleg/trading circles in terms of quality.)

ontheEdgeof17 · #57 08-19-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cour

But it seems clear they do have a problem with it or they wouldn't have a rule prohibiting it.

Then I don't understand why they list bootlegs that are sold in stores in their discography section.

BTFLCHLD · #58 08-19-2005, 03:08 PM

JMO i personally would rather spend $20 for a dvd i want of a show i attended than wait for someone lurking in the shadows to pick and choose which fans their recording is worthy of being bestowed upon

Cour · #59 08-19-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life

also, I still wished the Stevie Nicks shows would be similar to the U2 shows (I received a few "Street Angel" shows on DVD recently, And all I can say is that they are typical of the Stevie Nicks bootleg/trading circles in terms of quality.)

This is the largest FM site and there are a little over 3000 members. The largest U2 site that I've found has over 39,000 members. I guess they just have more than their fair share of audio/video geeks and we have less than our fair share

What I find funny about them is how their fans complain, complain complain about the set lists and lack of spontaneity, even though they change it up 1 zillion times more than we ever see. I think to myself, come over to my little world and you'd know set list misery and stale stage dialogue!

Beachwood Mac · #60 08-19-2005, 03:10 PM

I'm not one to usually jump in to a mix like this but as a fan I will pay for the cd or video if that's my only way of getting it. I have also paid for cd's from other members of this board who imply that they only trade. Many of us also download concert audio or video off of the dime website and some of those shows wouldn't be available to download if someone hadn't paid for the show to begin with.

Terry