Henley songs about Stevie... - Page 4

littlecricket2 · #46 07-10-2005, 08:09 AM

I have a question for anyone who's into Don Henley:

There's a song off his Inside Job album called "Miss Ghost." Does anyone know if that's about any woman in particular, or if it was inspired by any woman/women any of us have heard of?

HenleyFan · #47 07-10-2005, 09:02 AM

Don has said it's about a former girlfriend, but that's all he'll say about it. There was a lot of speculation about the song when the album first came out, but no one knows for sure who he's talking about. Only he does.

L&M

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Originally Posted by littlecricket2

I have a question for anyone who's into Don Henley:

There's a song off his Inside Job album called "Miss Ghost." Does anyone know if that's about any woman in particular, or if it was inspired by any woman/women any of us have heard of?

WelshWitchPMD · #48 07-10-2005, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by EnchantedSLN

On a slightly different note, I've always thought that "Dear John" by Joe Walsh was for/about Stevie. That's pure speculation, though... based on little more than my interpretation of the lyrics and the timing of the album (and the little "Thank you Stevie" in the liner notes.)

I always thought that too, Tiff. Maybe HenleyFan might have some info on this song.

gldstwmn · #49 07-10-2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by amber

No. That would be an extremely painful experience for almost anyone, and I think it's nice to share how you felt.

Thanks Amby.

Johnny Stew · #50 07-10-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

That record eerily mirrored my life at that time. Only it wasn't all just about a man or men I had known but a whole bunch of other things. The line "I'm afraid soon there'll be no light" and "We will never change again the way we are changing" reflect me watching my brother wither away and die from cancer.
Too much information, I know.

Not too much information at all, sweetie.
I'm sorry to hear what a horrible time you were going through just a few years ago. Your story is a reminder of how effective music can be at helping us get through rough times.

{{{hugs}}}

pattymarkle · #51 07-10-2005, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

That record eerily mirrored my life at that time. Only it wasn't all just about a man or men I had known but a whole bunch of other things. The line "I'm afraid soon there'll be no light" and "We will never change again the way we are changing" reflect me watching my brother wither away and die from cancer.
Too much information, I know.

Oh goodness. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Her TISL album was her most intense album for her third-eye writing. Or at least in my opinion. It is so strange how she had stuff that was 30 years old on there and she released it when she did and then have 9/11 happen and things like you describe with your brother.

(that was a hug)
Patty

gldstwmn · #52 07-10-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Not too much information at all, sweetie.
I'm sorry to hear what a horrible time you were going through just a few years ago. Your story is a reminder of how effective music can be at helping us get through rough times.

{{{hugs}}}

That's part of why I love Stevie so much. She writes in such a way that let's you know that someone else really gets it, which can be extremely healing.

gldstwmn · #53 07-10-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pattymarkle

Oh goodness. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Her TISL album was her most intense album for her third-eye writing. Or at least in my opinion. It is so strange how she had stuff that was 30 years old on there and she released it when she did and then have 9/11 happen and things like you describe with your brother.

(that was a hug)
Patty

Thank you Patty. It's funny that you bring up 9/11. I was just going to post some thought about TISL and that. I mean, she named the record Trouble In Shangri La. I truly think in some way, subliminally, she prophesized it. A lot of lyrics in the title track reminded me of what people must have been thinking and feeling after the attack. And she was there! Can you imagine how that must have flipped her out?

Johnny Stew · #54 07-10-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

That's part of why I love Stevie so much. She writes in such a way that let's you know that someone else really gets it, which can be extremely healing.

Yeah, I like to think of myself as a little more than just a "lemming" fan, as we're often accused of... but that's the thing about Stevie's writing that amazes me the most, too.
She always seems to "get it"... she has this way of saying something that moves me and gets to me in a way no other writer has (at least not on a continual basis).

Often times there will be a song on one of her albums, and for many years it'll be "just a song"... and then one day that song will come on, and I'll hear it in a completely different way. And then it's, as you said, extremely healing.

Johnny Stew · #55 07-10-2005, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

It's funny that you bring up 9/11. I was just going to post some thought about TISL and that. I mean, she named the record Trouble In Shangri La. I truly think in some way, subliminally, she prophesized it. A lot of lyrics in the title track reminded me of what people must have been thinking and feeling after the attack. And she was there! Can you imagine how that must have flipped her out?

The connections that can be made, are pretty eerie.

"I guess we don't believe things could go that far... we all believe in people, that we think believe in God... Somewhere in the night, someone feels the pain... the ones who walk away try to love again...
I hear there's trouble in Shangri-La...."

pattymarkle · #56 07-10-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Thank you Patty. It's funny that you bring up 9/11. I was just going to post some thought about TISL and that. I mean, she named the record Trouble In Shangri La. I truly think in some way, subliminally, she prophesized it. A lot of lyrics in the title track reminded me of what people must have been thinking and feeling after the attack. And she was there! Can you imagine how that must have flipped her out?

Oh I know exactly what you are talking about. When I really stop and think about it and her being in New York, I am getting chills now just thinking about it. The cover of TISL freaks me out because the arch she is looking through reminds me of the twin towers there with her standing there by the sea just a jump away. God she is so connected. I have my own little psychic thoughts from time to time but I can't imagine something that powerful coming through me.

That is why her 9/11 journal means so much to me because I honestly do go back and read it again and again because they are comforting and to bring our discussion back on topic; Listening to her sing, "New York Minute" with Don really gives me the chills too. I wanted to see them live but am so grateful someone came out with a copy of that. Such a deep song.

Love,
Patty

pattymarkle · #57 07-10-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

The connections that can be made, are pretty eerie.

"I guess we don't believe things could go that far... we all believe in people, that we think believe in God... Somewhere in the night, someone feels the pain... the ones who walk away try to love again...
I hear there's trouble in Shangri-La...."

Oh God here it comes again. CHILLS CHILLS CHILLS. I can either be really freaked out or just thank my lucky stars for Stevie. What a hand to hold while we walk though our life. I can count on her more than any other person I know, real or imagined.

Patty

HenleyFan · #58 07-10-2005, 03:21 PM

I had to ask Joe fans about this one. I'm not familiar with all of Joe's solo work. Reading the lyrics I see how it could be about Stevie. Also, at that time Joe was divorcing his second wife, Juanita. So Dear John could also be for her.

L&M

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Originally Posted by EnchantedSLN

On a slightly different note, I've always thought that "Dear John" by Joe Walsh was for/about Stevie. That's pure speculation, though... based on little more than my interpretation of the lyrics and the timing of the album (and the little "Thank you Stevie" in the liner notes.)

David · #59 07-10-2005, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I mean, she named the record Trouble In Shangri La. I truly think in some way, subliminally, she prophesized it.

Wait. I don't get it. How does the title "Trouble in Shangri-La" prophesy what happened on 9/11? What parallel is there between Shangri-La & New York City, or the United States? Shangri-La is a utopia, a hidden paradise on Earth whose inhabitants live for hundreds of years. Actually, I never really knew what Stevie was talking about by naming the album "Trouble in Shangri-La," other than as a vague sort of metaphor for the isolated, luxurious qualities of being an extremely rich superstar, for whom so many of the problems of the world are nonexistent or at most minimal. I'm not sure that it's any more prophetic than a typical Nostradamus stanza (which is nothing more than an understanding of the repeating patterns of human experience & behavior).

I could say, "there'll be trouble in this land next year," & sure enough, there will be! Everybody knows that.

I think Stevie just chose the phrase "Shangri-La" for the same reasons she borrows words & phrases from classic authors: she likes the sound of the phrases, first of all, & secondly, these phrases & speechways & allusions resonate in her mind as mythic, romantic, far-away, untouchable but all-wise, pearls of knowledge from an ever-receding & unrecoverable past.

Now I don't mean to talk any of you out of believing that Stevie is your prophet. I don't want to do that. I have my prophets, too, & I'd get bummed out if someone shot my prophets full of holes (for example, the review of "Science: The Glorious Entertainment" that appeared in the New York Review of Books in the 1960s really landed a couple of smart ones on Barzun's Gallic chin).

Johnny Stew · #60 07-10-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Wait. I don't get it. How does the title "Trouble in Shangri-La" prophesy what happened on 9/11? What parallel is there between Shangri-La & New York City, or the United States? Shangri-La is a utopia, a hidden paradise on Earth whose inhabitants live for hundreds of years.

Without sounding like an "Ugly American," I relate it to the way America is often viewed as a "Shangri-La"... you know, the country where the streets are paved with gold.

Don't be so literal, Davey.