What's up with all the Sheryl Crow hating? - Page 4

Kelly · #46 07-01-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I loved how she loosened Stevie up onstage. She was so nervous and kind of out of it, but once Sheryl joined her, she was a different person. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to another Sheryl/Stevie tour, or an album in the tradition of Harris/Parton/Ronstadt.

I do like how she loosened Stevie up onstage too. Don did the same thing. I also liked when Sheryl sang her own songs. The gal is super talented and has a beautiful voice....on her own. Totally off topic, but I also loved how she overhauled Lance's car...it was hilarious and they totally shocked him.

strandinthewind · #47 07-01-2005, 01:35 PM

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I said her harmonies with Stevie on Sorcerer make me cringe...do you want me to respond? I am used to Sorcerer with Lindsey. I do not like Sheryl's voice WITH Stevie at all. Its just my opinion....Stevie sounds fantastic with Lindsey on Sorcerer and Candlebright and I do not like how it sounds with Sheryl Crow. It is my opinion and there is no "accurate or factual" basis for my opinion. I like "It's Only Love" and I think Sheryl is a cool chick with a great voice but I do not like that she had to sing harmony with her on Sorcerer...especially when I had to see it live. I like Sheryl, just not her voice blended with Stevie's. Sheryl may have inspired Stevie to use difference parts of her voice but other producers have done that as well including Jimmy Iovine. Lindsey also gives her more confidence vocally. I prefer Lindsey's production of most of Stevie's songs...I think he knows her musical soul better than anyone else ever could begin to understand and instinctually knows what to do with her stuff. Sheryl does not strike me as understanding Stevie the same way. Her stuff is too poppy and sappy for someone like Stevie. Lindsey might take some risks and do some weird ****, like the vocals on Illume or the EFO voices but he stays true to the essence of her songs better than Sheryl, IMH and useless opinion.

Ummmm do you like anyone's voice other than Lindsey's voice with Stevie

DrummerDeanna · #48 07-01-2005, 01:41 PM

I've never said anything negative about Sheryl Crow

I've been a fan of hers since her first album - it was, in fact, the first cd I ever bought with my own money.

AND - I was a fan of hers before I was a fan of Stevie's...so

LiquidBlue5000 · #49 07-01-2005, 01:52 PM

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How so? "You're Not the One" would have stuck out like a sore thumb on C'Mon C'Mon, it didn't fit at all (not to mention that it's rather mediocre at best).

how so?? Stevie wrote the song, she didn't play all the instruments on it or anything.. It was still Sheryl's song with her band and her playing on it... She could have made it fit just fine.. furthermore, the snubbery was more based on the fact that she gave a song to Stevie only to use it for herself.. very tacky... and then the song Stevie writes for her she doesn't use at all... Stevie could have easily replaced "It's Only Love" with "Thrown Down", "Not Make Believe" or "My Heart", but she chose to use "It's Only Love" (which in itself doesn't quite "fit" on TISL)

LiquidBlue5000 · #50 07-01-2005, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I loved how she loosened Stevie up onstage. She was so nervous and kind of out of it, but once Sheryl joined her, she was a different person. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to another Sheryl/Stevie tour, or an album in the tradition of Harris/Parton/Ronstadt.

That may be true, but i doubt Sheryl had anything to do with it per se.. Stevie is always more loose when someone else is on stage with her, be it Sheryl or Don or Tom or whomever... i wouldn't exactly give Sheryl "credit" for Stevie's performance.. that's kinda stretching it...

dissention · #51 07-01-2005, 02:09 PM

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how so?? Stevie wrote the song, she didn't play all the instruments on it or anything.. It was still Sheryl's song with her band and her playing on it... She could have made it fit just fine.. furthermore, the snubbery was more based on the fact that she gave a song to Stevie only to use it for herself.. very tacky... and then the song Stevie writes for her she doesn't use at all... Stevie could have easily replaced "It's Only Love" with "Thrown Down", "Not Make Believe" or "My Heart", but she chose to use "It's Only Love" (which in itself doesn't quite "fit" on TISL)

I think It's Only Love fits perfectly on TISL, whereas You're Not the One stinks. It simply did not fit in on C'Mon C'Mon, it's too pedestrian and the sound of it would have stuck out horribly next to the likes of Lucky Kid, Abilene, and You're An Original. The fact is that she still released the damned thing. I'll never know why, but hey. Stevie is on a couple of songs on the album and that's enough; she wasn't exactly producing it like Sheryl did with her album.

As for her recording It's Only Love, I find it anything but tacky. Her version is so incredibly different from the one found on TISL that it's practically a different song.

dissention · #52 07-01-2005, 02:14 PM

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that's kinda stretching it...

Not to me. I think it's obvious that the two of them have a deep bond, personally and musically, and it comes out when they're together. I see a marked difference between seeing them together and seeing Stevie with others, but that's just me. They're just two chicks having fun. Plus, it's doubtful that many others could get Stevie to shake her ass onstage like she did on the TISL tour (save maybe Chris Isaak

).

LiquidBlue5000 · #53 07-01-2005, 02:16 PM

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I think It's Only Love fits perfectly on TISL, whereas You're Not the One stinks. It simply did not fit in on C'Mon C'Mon, it's too pedestrian and the sound of it would have stuck out horribly next to the likes of Lucky Kid, Abilene, and You're An Original. The fact is that she still released the damned thing. I'll never know why, but hey. Stevie is on a couple of songs on the album and that's enough; she wasn't exactly producing it like Sheryl did with her album.

So because Sheryl produced a part of TISL (the bad part), that she automatically should get a free song on it?? nahh... but to say "You're Not The One" stinks is your opinion... there are many people out there who don't really care for "It's Only Love" at all either.. to each his own i guess..

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As for her recording It's Only Love, I find it anything but tacky. Her version is so incredibly different from the one found on TISL that it's practically a different song.

You're missing the point... she GAVE "It's Only Love" to Stevie.. she WROTE IT for her... if Ms. Crow liked the song so much, then she should have just kept it for herself... It is tacky to write a song for someone else and say "this is for you, i wrote it for you" and then record it and put it out yourself... tasteless...

strandinthewind · #54 07-01-2005, 02:18 PM

I just do not think it was a big deal for SC to put Its Only Love on her record and I am sure she did with Stevie's blessing. So, if they aint all bent about it, I am not either

LiquidBlue5000 · #55 07-01-2005, 02:19 PM

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Not to me. I think it's obvious that the two of them have a deep bond, personally and musically, and it comes out when they're together. I see a marked difference between seeing them together and seeing Stevie with others, but that's just me. They're just two chicks having fun. Plus, it's doubtful that many others could get Stevie to shake her ass onstage like she did on the TISL tour (save maybe Chris Isaak

).

for a person who decided to put gas in his car than see any of the Stevie/Don shows, you are not one to speak of such things.. her performances with Don blow anything she ever did with Sheryl onstage completely out of the water...

dissention · #56 07-01-2005, 02:19 PM

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So because Sheryl produced a part of TISL (the bad part), that she automatically should get a free song on it?? nahh... but to say "You're Not The One" stinks is your opinion... there are many people out there who really care for "It's Only Love" at all either.. to each his own..

Free song? In case you'd forgotten, Stevie Nicks is the one who decides what ends up on her records, not Sheryl Crow.

And, yes, it is my opinion that You're Not the One stinks. Cloying vocal, amateurish production, and cheesy lyrics.

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You're missing the point... she GAVE "It's Only Love" to Stevie.. she WROTE IT for her... if Ms. Crow liked the song so much, then she should have just kept it for herself... It is tacky to write a song for someone else and say "this is for you, i wrote it for you" and then record it and put it out yourself... tasteless...

And that's your opinion. I think that if she felt she could add to it after the fact and do something fresh with it, she had every right to do so.

ShangriLaTroubl · #57 07-01-2005, 02:20 PM

Stevie has given songs to people, and then later used them herself also. She gave "If you Ever did Believe" and "Sorcerer", and later put them out herself...

Chris

dissention · #58 07-01-2005, 02:20 PM

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for a person who decided to put gas in his car than see any of the Stevie/Don shows, you are not one to speak of such things..

Ouch. That really hurt.

LiquidBlue5000 · #59 07-01-2005, 02:23 PM

And that's your opinion. I think that if she felt she could add to it after the fact and do something fresh with it, she had every right to do so.[/QUOTE]

great! and i'm definately looking forward to Stevie's rendition of "You're Not The One" on her next solo album... maybe she'll do something "fresh" with it that Sheryl was unable to do...

ShangriLaTroubl · #60 07-01-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidBlue5000

for a person who decided to put gas in his car than see any of the Stevie/Don shows, you are not one to speak of such things.. her performances with Don blow anything she ever did with Sheryl onstage completely out of the water...

I'm assuming when you are riding around surely you have atleast glanced at the gas stations and seen how high the gas prices are , right?