"Sara" lyrics - Page 4

dissention · #46 05-27-2005, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

I love that.

Anyway, I never heard "dead" when I listened to it.

I've never really believed it was about an aborted baby, and, as Kelly said, Stevie has contradicted that, anyway.

Also, I would love to hear the 16 minute version, which I'm sure would be Josh's nightmare song. But, as Curtis said, she leaves out the best verses, and "Bombay Sapphires" is a great example of that. I prefer the demo to the album version very much.

I think that's all I wanted to say.

There's nothing worse than listening to her pound on the piano like a child for two or three minutes, let alone 16 of them. That's one demo I would never listen to. I still curse the day that I listened to her Gypsy piano demo. Christ.

I like the alternate version of Bombay Sapphires much, much more than the album version because it's less cold and a lot warmer; vocally and musically. But I'm glad that extra verse, "I still dream" crud was edited out. It's pretty bad.

dissention · #47 05-27-2005, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lux

I just saw this thread. Some friends, one of whom is a casual fan have an ongoing joke about 'dead Sara'. I noticed it myself and I can't hear it as anything else however this friend enjoys screaming out "dead sara!". I was afraid to mention for my general fear of Stevie fans and their never predictable reactions.

In a non-FM related example, I like to sing out "God is a c*nt" during John Lennon's song God. I can only hear the first line of the song as such.

How morbid. I never cared for Sara on the record one bit, but I really liked it live. However, the whole "dead baby" business gives the song a very morbid and creepy feel to it that I simply do not enjoy and it's ruined any enjoyment I got out of it. Some things are better left unsaid, especially that kind of morbid ****.

GateandGarden · #48 05-27-2005, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lux

In a non-FM related example, I like to sing out "God is a c*nt" during John Lennon's song God. I can only hear the first line of the song as such.

That's great.

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Originally Posted by meanie dissention

But I'm glad that extra verse, "I still dream" crud was edited out. It's pretty bad.

That's my favorite part.

dissention · #49 05-27-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

That's my favorite part.

Hillary! Come into the light!

dissention · #50 05-27-2005, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lux

Hang on, are you advocating censorship? There's nothing I enjoy more than morbid ****, particularly with subtle humour.

No, I just don't give a rat's ass about the baby she supposedly aborted because it's not my business and listening to a song that may be about said aborted baby is not my cup of tea. It isn't that great of a song to begin with, but that extra element just kills it for me these days. And even if it weren't about the baby, she can't sing it for **** these days, anyway. When I saw them perform it last summer, I wished that I had to go to the bathroom. But I didn't have to, unfortunately. That whole Mansfield show stunk, Lindsey was the only saving grace.

Dreammms · #51 05-27-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

And even if it weren't about the baby, she can't sing it for **** these days, anyway. When I saw them perform it last summer, I wished that I had to go to the bathroom. But I didn't have to, unfortunately. That whole Mansfield show stunk, Lindsey was the only saving grace.

Well as long as you weren't one of those people who used COME for their pee break.

Johnny Stew · #52 05-27-2005, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

No, I just don't give a rat's ass about the baby she supposedly aborted because it's not my business and listening to a song that may be about said aborted baby is not my cup of tea. It isn't that great of a song to begin with, but that extra element just kills it for me these days. And even if it weren't about the baby, she can't sing it for **** these days, anyway. When I saw them perform it last summer, I wished that I had to go to the bathroom. But I didn't have to, unfortunately. That whole Mansfield show stunk, Lindsey was the only saving grace.

Wow, your good mood lasted all of three seconds.

dissention · #53 05-27-2005, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Wow, your good mood lasted all of three seconds.

Phone Guinness.

dissention · #54 05-27-2005, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreammms

Well as long as you weren't one of those people who used COME for their pee break.

Of course not. It's insufferable on the album, but it kicks ass live. Me leaving to piss during a Buckingham song would be like the Pope eating ribeye on Friday's during lent.

dissention · #55 05-27-2005, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lux

Now I'm confused again. Everyone can like or dislike elements due to tastes but why are you seemingly aggressive about the fact that she's supposed to be singing about her baby. Why is that wrong or worthy of anger?

Because I find it morbid and depressing. It's not "wrong," it just isn't my taste. You can listen to songs like that all you want, but I simply don't have a taste for them. Listening to that song and thinking of an aborted fetus is creepy to me and unpleasant.

amber · #56 05-28-2005, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Because I find it morbid and depressing. It's not "wrong," it just isn't my taste. You can listen to songs like that all you want, but I simply don't have a taste for them. Listening to that song and thinking of an aborted fetus is creepy to me and unpleasant.

Yes. I will therefore not think of it if/when I hear that song again. The whole idea of it anyway was pretty ludicrous to me, therefore easily forgettable.

dissention · #57 05-28-2005, 12:06 AM

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I guess I find that odd but to each their own. I don't find Tears in Heaven creepy (dull perhaps) and it's about a child falling to their death, and that's a non-gruesome, respectful way of putting it. But it's not really, it's about love and if Sara is about her baby then I think it's a song about love, not dead babies. Any darker song could be creepy I suppose. I'm listening to John Lennon's Julia which is another song about lost love (in the form of his mother) but if you want to see it as a song about a woman being squished by a driver then it is kind of creepy. As I said, to each their own, I just found it odd.

Personally, I try to stay away from a lot of the meanings attributed to songs by the artists who write them because I like to attribute my own meaning and personal attachments to them. Sometimes I can stay away from them, other times I can't. Unfortunately, that's impossible to do with Nicks and her ramblings, and the whole Sara saga has been ongoing for so long that when I hear it, all I can think of is Henley, abortion, and other assorted ****. Like I said, not my cup of tea. And, again, I don't think it's a very good song to begin with.

amber · #58 05-28-2005, 12:09 AM

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Personally, I try to stay away from a lot of the meanings attributed to songs by the artists who write them because I like to attribute my own meaning and personal attachments to them. Sometimes I can stay away from them, other times I can't. Unfortunately, that's impossible to do with Nicks and her ramblings, and the whole Sara saga has been ongoing for so long that when I hear it, all I can think of is Henley, abortion, and other assorted ****. Like I said, not my cup of tea. And, again, I don't think it's a very good song to begin with.

Really? You've heard that theory before? Geez. I, like you, don't really think too much about things like that. But that idea just seems so...preposterous to me...I didn't realize it was a commonly held theory..

lagringader&r · #59 05-28-2005, 12:12 AM

I agree that the idea of it being about an aborted child kind of turned me off too. When I first became a Stevie fan, Sara was one of my favorite songs because it sounded so sweet and mellow and I thought she was singing it about one of her friends named Sara. I thought she was telling her friend to call her to come over when she was finished building her house

I knew absolutely nothing about Stevie then, but I knew I loved her voice and this song. When I found out that it might be about an aborted baby, it made me listen to it in a different way. I still love it but it has a different feel for me now. It's more of a depressing feel than a happy-go-lucky one. So the whole mood of it just changed. Stevie or not, to think about aborted babies is like thinking about puppies drowning.

But I do still love the song..

amber · #60 05-28-2005, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lagringader&r

When I found out that it might be about an aborted baby, it made me listen to it in a different way. ..

Wait, what do you mean "found out" it might be about that? Is there any credible evidence to suggest that? It still seems waaaay to out there to me, even as far as Stevie theories go...