To Bush Supporters...

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by skcin

It's a method of abortion which necessitates that the fetus being partially into the birth canal in order to terminate the pregnancy. Radical pro-lifers can go into it more graphically/horrifically if they want to, but I won't. I'm a nurse, so there's a very basic medical explanation.

The battle comes down to when is a fetus a human being, is it murder, etc. These types of procedures are done later in a pregnancy (usually 2nd trimester, occasionally 3rd.) So the fetus is quite developed, making it even more controversial. The pregnancy is too far along to perform a routine abortion procedure.

Nobody is PRO- abortion. Kerry was not like "Hey, I love abortions. They're great!" His point was that Bush wants them banned totally, whether there's a risk to the woman's life or not. Kerry supported a ban, but with exceptions in the case of rape or threat to woman's life.

One of my good friends found out late in her pregnancy (5 months or so) that her fetus was not developing properly & there was a serious genetic defect. The fetus would not survive on its own, and would probably die in the womb. I believe it was missing most of its brain. They were seriously concerned about her health & complications that could occur, so they terminated. I would never want to take that right away from her - it's not my life, my choice, my family. It's hers. It was not something she wanted to do, but being a 30 year old woman with a 6 year old at home, she felt it was the best choice for her & her family.

Paula

Thank you Paula. I already knew the answer but what I wanted to illustrate was how outrageous it is for the term "partial birth abortion" to be used in a political campaign. It is a hot button term, does not mean what it implies and is an extreme rarity. Certain people though, would like you to think that the "libruls" are running around getting one of these for every woman.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Whew. I was worried about you.

Darling, I was going to slit my wrists but I was wearing new pants and I didn't want to dirty 'em.

Much love to you, my dear, and every one of my fellow brothers and sisters on the board.

[Alison]

Yep this thread had once again got out of hand. I though this was a thread on why people voted for Bush. Not to bash them because they did.

To hell with every person who voted for this scum. You've signed your death warrant and I hope you suffer because of it.

This is the type of statement I was talking about. To curse over half of the country is not going to solve any problem.

Like I said earlier. I'm glad I'm a Canadian. If I judged Americans by what I read on this forum, I would think they were very hateful, ignorant, and spiteful.
Can't blame it all on Bush. This has been going on for years.
God have mercy on your country, becasue of the above statement that person said about going to hell, and the hate you spew, you are going to need it.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by hauntedsong16

No, I don't think so. At all. It only concerns me in cases where there is not threat to the baby's life, mother's life, no health complications, etc.

That argument is illegitimate because no physician in his right mind would perform such a procedure, I can assure you. It is just not done. This is just more right wing rhetoric on the subject of abortion.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Alison

If I judged Americans by what I read on this forum, I would think they were very hateful, ignorant, and spiteful.

I am.

And I only said what others are too chicken**** to say. When you support a man like Bush, you will reap what you sow. And it won't be pretty. I hope they do suffer from his re-taking the throne, only then will their eyes open up. And that will only mean good things for this country.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by dissention

Darling, I was going to slit my wrists but I was wearing new pants and I didn't want to dirty 'em.

Much love to you, my dear, and every one of my fellow brothers and sisters on the board.

We are united.

[Alison]

No wonder your country is in a mess. You are proud to be hateful.
Like I said, God have mercy on your country and you.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by Alison

No wonder your country is in a mess. You are proud to be hateful.

A majority of my country practically doesn't want me here. What's there to be proud of?

[skcin]

Originally Posted by hauntedsong16

No, I don't think so. At all. It only concerns me in cases where there is not threat to the baby's life, mother's life, no health complications, etc. And honestly, I wasn't trying to attack anyone. I seriously just wanted someone to explain it to me, and you did. So thank you.

You're welcome.

Paula

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Alison

No wonder your country is in a mess. You are proud to be hateful.
Like I said, God have mercy on your country and you.

Don't you need to go pray now?

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Alison

No wonder your country is in a mess. You are proud to be hateful.
Like I said, God have mercy on your country and you.

Did you even read what I said?

It must be nice to sit high atop your throne in Canada where you don't have right-wing religious nutjobs running your country and where most everyone has access to healthcare.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by Alison

Like I said earlier. I'm glad I'm a Canadian. If I judged Americans by what I read on this forum, I would think they were very hateful, ignorant, and spiteful.

And that would be your biggest problem: if you judged ALL Americans by what you read on a Fleetwood Mac message forum. I'm afraid that would be a tad (insert sarcasm here) short-sighted.

Also, with all due respect, I don't think you can understand the political climate of our country at this moment since you don't live here and are not American. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but this election cuts very deep for a lot of people, emotions are running high and many people are hurt. Those of us who you consider the most hate-filled on this board are that way for a very good reason. We love our country and want the best for it, George Bush is DESTROYING our country and demonizing us in the "eyes of the world." It's a travesty, an abomination, and I guess you can't understand that.

[Alison]

I'm not going totaly by all what I see on this board. This is the image that is brought forth from many sources. This is the image of America that Many in Canada see. If Canada see's it like this, so do other countrys.
By the way I'm half American, and I have a brother who lives in Boston. My brother is not a Bush supporter at all. He is going to be moving back to Canada becasue Bush got in.
I'm talking about the hate for others opinions and for those who do not beleive the same ways that you do. That is very dangerous, and narrow minded.
Bush is a man, and he has made mistakes. Do you think Kerry would not have made any? To hate Bush and others that supported him is what I'm complaining about. Hate is a very strong word. That is to wish someone dead and curse them to hell.
Why do you think Hitler did what he did. He hated a certain group of people and wanted them destroyed. And he almost did it. He wanted to have people think and belive what he did.
Yes I will "go and pray now". Is that suppose to be an attack on me?
By the way I do pray for your country, be thankful that some people do.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

LMFAO. Oh the basis of having nice hats, I say we could elect Stevie.

needs a "personal" intern (ala Monica/Slick Willy) I volunteer!!!!

Brian j.

[LilyRose]

Thank you to Nancy and Michael and everyone else who responded appropriately...and Patti, I totally agree with you.

I can understand a little more why people support him.

I can also understand a little more why I just can't support him.

But I completely repsect your opinion and I just sincerely hope that he really does take in to account the opinion of the other half of the country that didn't vote for him.

God help us,

Susie