***SPOILER***Nashville set list

[hauntedsong16]

Originally Posted by Miranda

I agree with you a little, but it's one thing to deliver the hits. It's another to just crank out identical performances of those songs every night right down to the scripted gestures and speeches. There's really no excuse for that except laziness or incompetence. If it works then beat it into the ground...hmmm...who's quoted as making fun of this statement in about a million interviews?

I do agree with you on the fact that their performance is virtually identical each night. At LEAST change the speeches/gestures every now and then. But, other than that, I'm pretty happy with the set. They do put on a hell of a show.

[Hawkeye]

You knowyou y go to one show it seems like they're being spontainious. And what about Madison. Lindsey doing sit ups Stevie and Mick giving speeches without them being planned.

[Hippocampus]

Originally Posted by dissention

They should take into account that a great majority of the people who go to their shows attend them over and over and over.

If you think fans like us comprise the majority of a FM concert audience then I believe you're completely off the mark. Judging by the sales of SYW, the band could never fill venues and charge high ticket prices with just the hardcore fanbase. We are but a drop in the ocean. There's no wondering why they are catering to the masses and delivering the hits.

Originally Posted by dissention

It's the die-hards that put the cash in their pocketbooks and it must be just a tad boring and predictable for such a customer to go to 15 shows, only to hear the same tired songs.

If these customers are going to 15 shows on the same tour and complain about being bored well perhaps they need to find something else to occupy their evenings. You'd think they would get a clue that the setlist doesn't change at some point? Boredom in this case is self-inflicted.

Originally Posted by dissention

Honestly, I wouldn't want to pay for more than one show if each one is going to be the same. I mean, everything in a Mac show is rehearsed, down to the number of footsteps that walk. Thank the lord that this is the last leg.

Agreed.

[Miranda]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

You knowyou y go to one show it seems like they're being spontainious. And what about Madison. Lindsey doing sit ups Stevie and Mick giving speeches without them being planned.

Ohhh! That's one show I would've loved seeing. Everybody says they did a hell of a job staying on track with the technical problems. Fans and reviewers really got a kick out of the band's unplanned reactions.

It just proves the point. This band doesn't need to do a scripted show. They CAN be more spontaneous if they wanted too. They should loosen up and get rid of the security banket. The crowds will eat it up even more when they toss the canned movements and speeches.

Many performers interact with audiences but don't always do and say the exact same things nightly. High priced bands like FM should give the audience a sense it's seeing something special. Otherwise, before I pay their high ticket prices more than once, I'll put on The Dance video at home and save my cash to feed my own family not the bands'.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

You knowyou y go to one show it seems like they're being spontainious. And what about Madison. Lindsey doing sit ups Stevie and Mick giving speeches without them being planned.

Wow. One show out of a hundred.

[Miranda]

Originally Posted by Hippocampus

If these customers are going to 15 shows on the same tour and complain about being bored well perhaps they need to find something else to occupy their evenings. You'd think they would get a clue that the setlist doesn't change at some point? Boredom in this case is self-inflicted.

ITA! I could even live with a concrete set list if they'd lose the scripted interaction. If the band got more personal with the audience it would be a win-win. They would be on stage longer (oh no! more work for them!) but it would seem special for each show. It would also help the non die hard fans if they talked a little more and explained lesser known songs before playing them. That's the type of show they should be doing at this point rather than doing Rumours show #10,005.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Hippocampus

If you think fans like us comprise the majority of a FM concert audience then I believe you're completely off the mark. Judging by the sales of SYW, the band could never fill venues and charge high ticket prices with just the hardcore fanbase. We are but a drop in the ocean. There's no wondering why they are catering to the masses and delivering the hits.

I would agree with you if we were talking about the first leg, but we're talking about markets that they've hit two, three, sometimes even four times.

Originally Posted by Hippocampus

If these customers are going to 15 shows on the same tour and complain about being bored well perhaps they need to find something else to occupy their evenings. You'd think they would get a clue that the setlist doesn't change at some point? Boredom in this case is self-inflicted.

I agree, which is why, as I said, I wouldn't pay to go to more than one show. Not only is it a waste of money, but it's a waste of time. Just pop a random bootleg into your stereo and you'll have saved a hundred bucks.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Miranda

ITA! I could even live with a concrete set list if they'd lose the scripted interaction. If the band got more personal with the audience it would be a win-win. They would be on stage longer (oh no! more work for them!) but it would seem special for each show. It would also help the non die hard fans if they talked a little more and explained lesser known songs before playing them. That's the type of show they should be doing at this point rather than doing Rumours show #10,005.

You mean, they would have to can the Landslide hug and kiss?! NOOOOOOOO!!! The shippers would die. No more speeches about cycles, either?! Or any robotic gestures from Lindsey and Stevie?!

Doesn't sound like a Mac show to moi.

[Miranda]

Originally Posted by Hippocampus

If you think fans like us comprise the majority of a FM concert audience then I believe you're completely off the mark. Judging by the sales of SYW, the band could never fill venues and charge high ticket prices with just the hardcore fanbase. We are but a drop in the ocean. There's no wondering why they are catering to the masses and delivering the hits.

The first part of your comment doesn't make sense to me. The fact that SYW hasn't sold even a million makes the point. The hard core fan base bought the new record. The masses didn't. Yet the band cranks out the oldies to please the people who only want Rumours, and not to please the fans who actually went out and supported the new cd? Seems like the usual oldies act to me.

[Miranda]

Originally Posted by dissention

You mean, they would have to can the Landslide hug and kiss?! NOOOOOOOO!!! The shippers would die. No more speeches about cycles, either?! Or any robotic gestures from Lindsey and Stevie?!

Doesn't sound like a Mac show to moi.

Who could live without talk of healing, too?

Barrels of cash can bring about a boat load of healing!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Miranda

Who could live without talk of healing, too?

Barrels of cash can bring about a boat load of healing!

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by dissention

a great majority of the people who go to their shows attend them over and over and over.

Maybe a half a percent of people at each show have seen the SYW tour more then once, I'd bet. So, if I was Fleetwood Mac I would please the 99.5 percent that are seeing it for the first time.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by diamondsnake

Maybe a half a percent of people at each show have seen the SYW tour more then once, I'd bet. So, if I was Fleetwood Mac I would please the 99.5 percent that are seeing it for the first time.

For some reason, I highly doubt that.

[Hippocampus]

Originally Posted by Miranda

The first part of your comment doesn't make sense to me. The fact that SYW hasn't sold even a million makes the point. The hard core fan base bought the new record. The masses didn't. Yet the band cranks out the oldies to please the people who only want Rumours, and not to please the fans who actually went out and supported the new cd? Seems like the usual oldies act to me.

Here's what I meant. With the sales of SYW being a disappointment, it's getting pretty obvious that the hardcore fanbase is shrinking and that we're not the ones who are filling the arenas. So the band plays what works for the majority: mostly hits & Rumours (and a static setlist). This isn't about being artistic and taking chances, it's about being commercial and giving the crowds what they want. It's... ahem... business savvy.

[ryan8472]

Well, you've all basically summed up all of my feelings on the topic, but I'll go ahead anyways. The band is afraid that the $$$ will stop flowing in if they don't play the hits. Which is a bunch of ****, frankly. In fact, they'd probably make more money if people knew that it wouldn't be the same worn-out show EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. Look at the Grateful Dead as an example. My father followed them around for years because the setlist was never the same from night to night and he loved the music. FM would never do that, ever. And the excuses that either, A.) They've never done a song live before, or B.) It hasn't been played in a long long time, are **** as well. They wrote the damn songs for cripes sake! But now they can't remember how to play them? C'mon. I know they did waaaaay too many narcotics in the 70's/80's, but still!

Basically, I'm really not that angry at the band, in fact I'm glad they are even still around! I just wished they'd have some damn balls.