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Old 05-15-2002, 01:27 PM
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Hey Mimi: I'll have to dig and figure out where that interview is...I think it's on video..maybe Ent. Tonight from Enchanted int. 1998?

Hey Christopher: I was at Red Rocks too...I'm on tape at the very end just after the polar bear..I was at the two shows earlier in the summer ,too! I was playing a video of one of the TISL shows and this friend of mine said: I thought she was a lot more animated. What's the matter?

Well, he had only seen the Red Rocks video and Sisters of the Moon from the Mirage tour. I said : well it would be fun if she was still that animated but then again at 53 yrs old if she was that high to be that animated it might not be real flattering!
thanks. let me know what you find.

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Old 05-15-2002, 06:29 PM
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The question is now, Should Stevie do some Anti-Drug Abuse PSA's for TV/Radio ?


I think Stevie giving a sobering reminder of her own unfortunate problems with Coke & Booze would set some younger minds straight. Also Stevie would create a favourable impression on a younger audience...


What do you think ?
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Old 05-16-2002, 09:18 AM
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The woman did some of her best work and performances while hyped up on cocaine
Some, yes. But like I said before, she proved herself as an amazing songwriter and performer before she got hooked. Look at the early Rhiannon performances. She wasn't using, at least not heavily, in 1975. She said herself even when she wrote Gold Dust Woman she didn't have very much experience with coke. I think she really got into it like around the Rumours tour. So many amazing songs and performances happened before that. My personal favorites, anyway.

Keep in mind that she wrote many, many songs before cocaine and recorded them later in her career.

BUT I don't criticize Stevie for using cocaine...
1. Because all rock stars did it at the time
2. Because I believe her when she says she didn't know it was bad back then
3. Because she was smart enough to stop

My point: Stevie's amazing music, words and performances started inspiring people in 1975, and she was full of character, energy and creativity without coke. Those early moments are what drew attention to her and built the foundation for her solo career that allowed her to be sucessful with coke.

I wouldn't suggest anything be changed, but I think she would have been just as amazing without it.
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Old 05-16-2002, 11:38 AM
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Well said.....
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Old 05-16-2002, 11:52 AM
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BUT I don't criticize Stevie for using cocaine...
1. Because all rock stars did it at the time
2. Because I believe her when she says she didn't know it was bad back then
3. Because she was smart enough to stop
Well......... I don't think drug use in general warrants criticism. To each his or her own I always say. However, I don't think it was "okay" to use coke because all rock stars did at the time. It's just as easy to say that about heroin in the early 90's. Also, I wouldn't classify cocaine as "bad". It's only the abuse of the substance that I would classify as "bad"- and even then I don't think I would use that word... perhaps "unfortunate" is a better choice. And finally, I don't think Stevie was "smart" enough to stop- she was scared. If she had really been smart enough to stop, she would have stopped before it got to the point where her body was damaged.

Of course I'm glad Stevie did what she thought was best for her own personal well-being.

The best thing about Stevie's drug past is that she doesn't sermonize and she knows that each individual drug-use case has its own facets and dimensions. In most of the interviews I've seen or read with regard to this issue, Stevie usually says something along the lines of "This was my history with drugs- maybe if I tell you my story you can get something out of it."

I think she is very wise to take that kind of position.
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Old 05-16-2002, 01:56 PM
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, Should Stevie do some Anti-Drug Abuse PSA's for TV/Radio ?

I am not sure how keen i'd be on something like that..I mean don't get me wrong..anti-drug ads are important,but just seeing someone like Stevie on tv saying "don't do drugs" is not going to save the world..i mean unless you know some of her background you aren't going to know offhand what addictions she has overcome,etc.Also..celebrities who have had sucessfully been thru rehab aren't the best people to put on tv for younger audiences to see because it gives them the idea "Well,they did a whole bunch of drugs,then when they wanted to stop they went to rehab",like it is no big deal..as sad as it sounds it is true...there are friends of my brother and sister(who are 14 and 16) that think that way and it is ridiculous...they can't grasp the fact that these people go to rehab to stop so they won't OD and stuff because it is so deadly and addicting...i think the best anti-drug ads would just be pictures of people who have died from overdoses...as grim as it is,that is more likely to make people think twice about what they do.
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Well said.

Although the prospect of a somber (or whatever) Stevie, gazing into the camera murmurring, "This is my nose."

Then, as she yanks a leather belt all the way through the hole in her nose (to which she has already admitted, those of you who are ready to pounce), she screeches, "And this is my nose on BLOW!" certainly has its appeal...
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Carol Ann..you are twisted...and I like it in that slowing-down-to-stare-at-a-car-accident sort of way. *Ricoh*
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Old 05-21-2002, 01:46 PM
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I don't think Stevie would do an anit-drug public service thingy because did'nt she say on VH1 that she would'nt change a thing. I always assumed she meant the drug use too. So I think it would be hypocritical if she did one of those commercials. And I don't want her to use the leather belt either. I think she could do something for the "Save the Music" foundation or something like that.

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Old 05-21-2002, 02:07 PM
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I'll take that as a weird kind of compliment! Good to see there are still some odd senses of humor still intact!
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Old 05-21-2002, 02:15 PM
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Carole Ann-yep, I just re-read your post and am laughing just picturing it again...too much!
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Well, it wasn't just SN that was using drugs in FM, it was pervasive and easy to get. If they want to abuse their bodies, let them. IMHO, it's none of my business. They do whatever they want, they are adults that can make their own decisions. All of them wound up at Betty Ford Center to try to kick their addictions to various substances. Is it a waste? Sure. Is it my problem? No. I was hanging around the Mac back in the mid/late 80's and was appalled at what I saw. Spent a lot of time in their homes and saw a lot - enough to convince me that I didn't want to be part of all of it. I'm not into drugs, and you really need to fit in to be totally accepted. I wouldn't compromise on that. But whatever people choose, I think they have a right to do, it doesn't mean I have to do it too. It was quite an education, to say the least.
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Old 05-21-2002, 02:44 PM
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Cool I agree, demoguy

It's pretty astonishing when you think that DENNIS WILSON was struck almost dumb when he saw the amount of blow F-M had available to them daily.

It's just a miracle there weren't any deaths with that amount being used constantly. And Mick's said he had a TWENTY-year habit. That's a LOT of years...doing ANYthing!
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Old 05-21-2002, 05:40 PM
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and a lot of $ too! can you imagine how much money they spent? i bet mick would'n't have had to file bankrupcy if it weren't for the coke...
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LMAO!!! That's exactly what Sara said to me about the bankruptcy - so much money went to coke, there wasn't much left for anything else. God knows how much over the years, and not just with MKF, but with all of them. Sheesh, if I had a fraction of what they spent on blow, I could buy a nice house in Malibu by now (even at today's inflated prices...). Not to mention the cost of rehab over and over and over (Betty Ford isn't free, y'know).
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