Too much Dave Stewart?

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by fumidesigns

Nah.......Dave is not gonna produce a damn thing when it comes to the Mac!!!

I don't know... didn't Stevie say she wasn't interested in doing any other projects unless Dave was involved? He might be co-Producer with Lindsey on another Fleetwood Mac album. I think in Stevie's eyes, it might be - No Dave = No new album. And in the case of Fleetwood Mac, at this stage in the game, No Stevie Nicks = No new Fleetwood Mac album.

I mean, if Lindsey and Dave could work together, the results could be incredible. Lindsey's production is great, but sometimes veers off into the "weird" category.

[fumidesigns]

Originally Posted by Artemis

I don't know... didn't Stevie say she wasn't interested in doing any other projects unless Dave was involved? He might be co-Producer with Lindsey on another Fleetwood Mac album. I think in Stevie's eyes, it might be - No Dave = No new album. And in the case of Fleetwood Mac, at this stage in the game, No Stevie Nicks = No new Fleetwood Mac album.

I mean, if Lindsey and Dave could work together, the results could be incredible. Lindsey's production is great, but sometimes veers off into the "weird" category.

You have a point. Ionno tho.........it might take a loooooooooong time for that album to come out lmao!

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

However, you actually bring up an interesting point that solidies my feelings that Dave Stewart should not be so present in this project as a visual presence. Dave Stewart's involvement in the project (for better--he's an ace at bringing out songwriter's voice--and for worse--his music video directing) earns acknowledgement; however, can anyone imagine him being on the cover or even the back cover of a Fleetwood Mac album along with the rest of the band?

You bring up a valid point about Daves video directing. Having not voiced it yet mostly because everyone seemed to be enjoying the SL vid, but it left me cringing inside a little. While I'm happy Dave persuaded Stevie to film a documentary of the making of IYD, his "dreamscapes" so far leave little to be desired for me. I enjoyed the CTF documentary style video far more than the subpar cinematography and styling of the SL vid. Some of the shots of Stevie full on are unflattering and lit too harshly. While Micks little drummer boy is barely drumming at all and when he does, he's off beat from the track so much that my OCD brain almost detonates. Its all in the little details - the lighting & editing. It could have been so much better. SL dos not hold a candle to her TISL videos imo. "Everyday" was a beautifully shot piece of film. Stevie never looked better. And "Sorcerer" was beautiful albeit more understated as well.

And no, I cannot imagine Dave being on the back cover of the next FM cover. It's not comparable - even if he co-produces and adds some music nuances here and there - simply because most of the music (even if he co-writes with Stevie again) will be sorted out for the most part by Lindsey, John & Mick with Stevie and Dave adding suggestions. Dave will not be as dominate a musical force or director as he was for IYD. Having said that, I really hope Dave is brought on board and a new FM record happens.

[TrueFaith77]

^^Very thoughtful post, Christopher.

I also believe that if there is another Mac album, Dave Stewart will be involved at least as co-writer of some of Stevie's songs and most probably as co-producer (with the band). And I don't mind one bit. I just don't think he should join the band nor should he be a visual presence.

[fumidesigns]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

^^Very thoughtful post, Christopher.

I also believe that if there is another Mac album, Dave Stewart will be involved at least as co-writer of some of Stevie's songs and most probably as co-producer (with the band). And I don't mind one bit. I just don't think he should join the band nor should he be a visual presence.

y is it that i can totally see there being a prob w/ Dave being a co-writer on Stevie's work, and not Lindsey, when LINDSEY would be right there? ionno.........not saying he's super petty like that, but i just don't see this sitting easy with this group.

i could be DEAD wrong.............but i just don't see this happening.

[tabruns]

It seems like Dave lets Stevie take the lead in how the songs turn out. Like she's said, he would just look at her expression and he could tell when she didn't like the direction a song was taking. He'd then stop and change it.

Whereas with Lindsey I could see Lindsey being a lot more willing to argue that the direction he wants to take a song is the right one.

I could see Dave being involved with the next Mac album somehow - either as co-writer with Stevie or co-producer with Lindsey or possibly as a member of the band.

[fumidesigns]

so i'm guessing that no one remembers the whole Sheryl Crow joining the band thing and the look on Lindsey's face? lol! he was like, something like, "so what songs are she going to sing? she can't sing christine's and she damn sure can sing her own" lol!

i can see it now...........

Stevie walks through the door, as beautiful as ever, and Dave comes in right behind her. everybody seems cool, but as soon as dave and stevie start talkin about a song and how it should go...........or maybe dave get her to change the tense of a song and Lindsey doesn't her "would you say that to bob dylan?" , ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE!!! all you hear is "crash*, "bam", *boom*!!!!!

[KarmaContestant]

I don't think Dave will ever be a member of Fleetwood Mac. Why would he even want to? He's made a name for himself, and is respected among his peers. Joining Fleetwood Mac would just make him 'the new guy' and relegate him to the status of the person with the least amount of say or influence.

I won't be surprised if he produces their next record (if there ever really is one, which I doubt very much will actually happen), but I expect that will be the end of his involvement.

[Christopher]

Any musings of Dave joining FM is preposterous. Whereas Dave being a co-writer (mostly on some of Stevie's tracks) and a co-producer is more in line with reality.