Underrated in FM? - Page 3

jellyman10 · #31 12-23-2011, 03:04 PM

From my perspective (British, age 47), I'd say that FM as a whole are underrated, and that over the last decade or so, whenever someone drags them up in order to point out that they were/are actually quite good, what they do is point to 'Tusk' and get all wet-knickered about LB, so I don't agree that Stevie gets more than her fair share of artistic credit for her talent. Attention isn't credit.

vivfox · #32 12-23-2011, 03:28 PM

Bee, Stevie is the best looking member and that is why she gets the most attention. You already knew that. The best looking people everywhere in life get the most attention from those around them. I see that all the time.

STEVEHEDRICK · #33 12-23-2011, 03:32 PM

stevie is the star and always has been look at tickets sales stevie does very well and lindsay does not!

tabruns · #34 12-23-2011, 10:59 PM

All member of Fleetwood Mac deserve a lot of credit. They're five exceptionally talented individuals and when they're "on" they're amazing (Rumours, Tusk).

Stevie's clearly the star and she always has been. I think it simply has a lot to do with charisma. Stevie's got it, in spades. She's a people magnet.

I've always wondered as well why Mac albums generally broke down 5 Lindsey, 4 Christine and 3 Stevie songs. I just figured its mainly because:

- Lindsey is the producer
- Stevie's songs need to be worked out
- Stevie's songs are longer
- Stevie tended to not be in the studio unless she was needed

All of this added up the usual "Mac balance". Plus, although Stevie is clearly the star and she had some great hits with Mac, really Christine wrote most of the Mac's hits if you're counting sheer numbers. Still, when gems like "Secret Love" went unrecorded it does seem like Mac missed some opportunities by limiting Stevie to 3 songs per album.

jcalzaretta · #35 12-24-2011, 09:11 AM

Stevie did typically get least number of songs but they are generally longer. On Tusk, she had 5 of 20, but I think her songs were so long, there was actually more of her singing on Tusk than Lindsey, whose songs were shorter.

On Ice · #36 12-24-2011, 10:16 AM

I think Fleetwood Mac missed some golden opportunities especially in the early days by limiting Stevie's input. The white album, although stellar, would have been even more so if they had recorded a couple more Stevie rockers to balance out the sometimes overly mello vibe. Particularly Sorcerer, Farewell Failure and You Won't Forget Me would have been awesome Mac songs and surely would be on the classic list. I'm also in the camp that Silver Springs should have been on Rumours side one and Songbird the closer on side two. I also think they gave up too soon on Think About It and Planets of the Universe. Although it was harder to get more songs onto an LP, some clever editing would have easily brought more Stevie onto these albums. The balance was better on Tusk but Mirage and Tango both missed amazing Stevie opportunities as we've seen with Smile at You, If you Were My Love and Joan of Arc. Not sure of all the reasons, but certainly there were enough Stevie hidden classics that absolutely should have been on these albums without question. But who are we to say, we're just the ones listening to the music.

Artemis · #37 12-24-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by On Ice

I think Fleetwood Mac missed some golden opportunities especially in the early days by limiting Stevie's input. The white album, although stellar, would have been even more so if they had recorded a couple more Stevie rockers to balance out the sometimes overly mello vibe. Particularly Sorcerer, Farewell Failure and You Won't Forget Me would have been awesome Mac songs and surely would be on the classic list. I'm also in the camp that Silver Springs should have been on Rumours side one and Songbird the closer on side two. I also think they gave up too soon on Think About It and Planets of the Universe. Although it was harder to get more songs onto an LP, some clever editing would have easily brought more Stevie onto these albums. The balance was better on Tusk but Mirage and Tango both missed amazing Stevie opportunities as we've seen with Smile at You, If you Were My Love and Joan of Arc. Not sure of all the reasons, but certainly there were enough Stevie hidden classics that absolutely should have been on these albums without question. But who are we to say, we're just the ones listening to the music.

Definitely agree with Mirage and Tango needing more Stevie. Mirage would have been a much stronger album if two Lindsey songs (I think he's the weakest one on Mirage) were ditched in favour of Smile At You and If You Were My Love, for sure.

As for Tango... Stevie just frustrates me in general on that album. Her contributions are just so... blech. Juliet and Joan of Arc would have worked so much better than WTTR...S, at least.

Also, I think I read somewhere that Sorcerer was almost going to be on the white album, but, Rhiannon made it instead... why not both?

Although, if Silver Springs is included, Stevie is all over Rumours. She's the dominant vocalist on that album in a way she isn't on any of the others.

krrrby · #38 12-24-2011, 11:52 AM

If Stevie hadn't been restricted to 2-3 songs per album and had more songs than both Lindsey and Christine combined...she probably wouldn't have ever made a solo record.

Instead, she was restricted to a number of songs granted the other two had more songs than her if they were to ever divide it evenly...

But I think Stevie is content with the fact that her solo career did fine and she was able to have the extra outlet to release songs and only have a couple for a mac album.

She knows very well that 2-3 songs on a Mac record will give her more money than a solo career ever will because she's most recognized with her band...hence why she says, "Never break up with your band"

vivfox · #39 12-24-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by STEVEHEDRICK

stevie is the star and always has been look at tickets sales stevie does very well and lindsay does not!

Are you talking about Lohan?

AliceLover · #40 12-24-2011, 01:22 PM

To be honest, I love the woman to death, but if anything...shes overrated. Sure she has cranked out an outrageous number of awesome songs, but I don't think anyone else will ever come along like Lindsey Buckingham. His production, craft, style, and genius like guitar skills will never be replicated or outdone. JMO

David · #41 12-24-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by peer_gynt10

But don't you all think that Stevie's contributions to FM have been horribly underrated over the years?

No. It's impossible. She has more fans than all the other members combined.

David · #42 12-24-2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by On Ice

I'm also in the camp that Silver Springs should have been on Rumours side one and Songbird the closer on side two.

Nothing in my universe feels more absolutely right to me than the Welsh witch howls that permeate the fade-out of "Gold Dust Woman"--& end the album.

WildHearted · #43 12-24-2011, 04:33 PM

I don't think she's underrated by the general public - she is, without a doubt, the most popular member of FM - but she certainly is/has been by critics in the past.

mikephxaz · #44 12-24-2011, 05:29 PM

I have never bought the arguement that Stevie was too airy, fairy to be taken seriously... for every one - Welcome To The Room, Sara = there's two - Family Man - Stevie's delving into the "hippy chick" stuff is not compariable to Lindsey's over produced gimmicks

poetinmyheart · #45 12-24-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bluefox4000

Why does there have to be camps......can't we all just get along

ok hippie moment over

Mick

I wish we could all get along like we used to in middle school... I wish I could bake a cake filled with rainbows and smiles and everyone would eat and be happy...

Sorry, I watched Mean Girls earlier lol