Would There Be Lady Gaga Without Stevie Nicks?

[iamnotafraid]

LG looks pretty mugly to me.

[daniellaaarisen]

GaGa is fine for what she is but she ain't no Stevie Nicks. She's nothing more than social music for the 12-25 crowd, I think.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

GaGa is fine for what she is but she ain't no Stevie Nicks. She's nothing more than social music for the 12-25 crowd, I think.

Well I'm a bit older than that and I haven't heard a bad song outta her yet. I don't understand all the bashing she is getting in this thread?

[daniellaaarisen]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Well I'm a bit older than that and I haven't heard a bad song outta her yet. I don't understand all the bashing she is getting in this thread?

You also love Luda and other "younger" music, so maybe you're a special case I happen to love some GaGa buuuuuuuut she does typically appeal to a younger, specific crowd.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

You also love Luda and other "younger" music, so maybe you're a special case I happen to love some GaGa buuuuuuuut she does typically appeal to a younger, specific crowd.

I'm his age as well and I do listen to alot of younger artists that actually have talent which these days seem to be indie bands like the Fleet Foxes ,The Great Lake Swimmers ,Midlake and Neko Case(I know she's somewhat older than the others but so damned talented )I think Lady Gaga is a flavor of the month and totally disposable.I agree with Luke A when he says that "Poker Face " is one of the worst songs to become a hit ever..just terrible.

[Cornflake Girl]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Well I'm a bit older than that and I haven't heard a bad song outta her yet. I don't understand all the bashing she is getting in this thread?

I think people just aren't pleased with the comparison to Stevie. I see it more as a compliment, Stevie and various other female artists of her era did open doors for future female artists.

Lady Gaga's music isn't really my kind of thing but she's definately a good entertainer and damn it, her songs are catchy. She's good at what she does. People are so quick to write artists off these days, I'm sure people said Madonna was just a flash in the pan when she first appeared in the 80s. That said, time will tell if Lady Gaga has the savvy to re-invent herself and stick around.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Hey folks. I wrote that article, by the way. Leave some of your comments here:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...vie.html?cat=7

By the way: the idea wasn't to compare the two artists, but really to shine some light on the fact that Stevie paved the way in a lot of ways for female artists to dress differently and create their own styles. Lady GaGa is just an example of someone today's music listeners can relate to. She was really just used in the article as an example.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Cornflake Girl

Lady Gaga's music isn't really my kind of thing but she's definately a good entertainer and damn it, her songs are catchy. She's good at what she does. People are so quick to write artists off these days, I'm sure people said Madonna was just a flash in the pan when she first appeared in the 80s. That said, time will tell if Lady Gaga has the savvy to re-invent herself and stick around.

Given the level of artistic talent involved or lack thereof Madonna should have been a flash in the pan..but no one really quite knew back then the areas where she was so talented :her supreme ability to manipulate the media and be one beat ahead of the curve of pop culture ..It is doubtful that Lady Gaga or anyone else for that matter has those skills to the degree that Madonna had.

[Cornflake Girl]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Given the level of artistic talent involved or lack thereof Madonna should have been a flash in the pan..but no one really quite knew back then the areas where she was so talented :her supreme ability to manipulate the media and be one beat ahead of the curve of pop culture ..It is doubtful that Lady Gaga or anyone else for that matter has those skills to the degree that Madonna had.

I definately see your point, however, I actually think she's very good at writing hit pop songs, which might not be my cup of tea but it's definately a valuable skill. She's done some writing for Britney, The Pussycat Dolls and Fergie. She's also a very exciting live performer, like Beyonce, Gwen Stefani and Fergie etc, who have clung onto the spotlight longer than most mainstream pop artists.

I have no idea why I'm defending her, I'm not even a huge fan.

[Black_Moon]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I'm his age as well and I do listen to alot of younger artists that actually have talent which these days seem to be indie bands like the Fleet Foxes ,The Great Lake Swimmers ,Midlake and Neko Case(I know she's somewhat older than the others but so damned talented )I think Lady Gaga is a flavor of the month and totally disposable.I agree with Luke A when he says that "Poker Face " is one of the worst songs to become a hit ever..just terrible.

God, I love Midlake. "Head Home" is perfection. You seem to like similar music to me, such as the more folk-y style music of today, who also seem to be somewhat influenced by Fleetwood Mac.

Lady GaGa has talent, she just hasn't channeled it into something "serious", or withstanding of time. She got early admission into a prestigious New York Arts' School, I'm sure the acceptance rate is something like 5%. She's a gifted pianist. It just depends on whether she can keep public interest.

[golddustdrummer]

Originally Posted by Black_Moon

God, I love Midlake. "Head Home" is perfection. You seem to like similar music to me, such as the more folk-y style music of today, who also seem to be somewhat influenced by Fleetwood Mac.

Lady GaGa has talent, she just hasn't channeled it into something "serious", or withstanding of time. She got early admission into a prestigious New York Arts' School, I'm sure the acceptance rate is something like 5%. She's a gifted pianist. It just depends on whether she can keep public interest.

she may be a gifted pianist but instead of showcasing that...
she relies on gimmicks, not talent.
and her idea of keeping public interest is seeing what outrageous costume she can come up with.
to me, she symbolizes everything that is wrong with today's popular music.

[Black_Moon]

Originally Posted by golddustdrummer

she may be a gifted pianist but instead of showcasing that...
she relies on gimmicks, not talent.
and her idea of keeping public interest is seeing what outrageous costume she can come up with.
to me, she symbolizes everything that is wrong with today's popular music.

I'm saying that, she's not showing off her talent. I think the media promotes celebrities getting up to shocking things though to keep attention. One of the negative things of our society. Hence why she probably feels the need to keep having her face shown in magazines and things. I don't know, like others have said, maybe she'll reinvent herself into a serious artist? Or maybe she'll just bring up the hermaphrodite (sp?) thing over and over and over...

[trackaghost]

Well, I still maintain that saying Stevie's style paved the way for Lady GaGa individual fashion sense is odd. I'd say Bowie is more responsible, and if you want to put in it terms of gender, Debbie Harry then Madonna. Also Stevie didn't really become a style icon or have any influence in the fashion world until recent years. I also don't think she's the first to create a look, didn't Cher work closely with Bob Mackie for her instantly recognisable style? Maybe I'm wrong but I'm sure there are others.

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I'm his age as well and I do listen to alot of younger artists that actually have talent which these days seem to be indie bands like the Fleet Foxes ,The Great Lake Swimmers ,Midlake and Neko Case(I know she's somewhat older than the others but so damned talented )I think Lady Gaga is a flavor of the month and totally disposable.I agree with Luke A when he says that "Poker Face " is one of the worst songs to become a hit ever..just terrible.

I love all those artists you've mentioned As for Lady GaGa I think it's far too early to tell, I personally wouldn't write her off, my problem with threads like this and the one on the Rumours board a while back is that she hasn't been around long enough to make a fair comparison.

Originally Posted by Cornflake Girl

I definately see your point, however, I actually think she's very good at writing hit pop songs, which might not be my cup of tea but it's definately a valuable skill. She's done some writing for Britney, The Pussycat Dolls and Fergie. She's also a very exciting live performer, like Beyonce, Gwen Stefani and Fergie etc, who have clung onto the spotlight longer than most mainstream pop artists.

I have no idea why I'm defending her, I'm not even a huge fan.

No, I think it's cool you are defending her. I'm not really into her music but there's definitely something intriguing about her and different. I think people sometimes write-off pop music because it's not deep or clever enough, but a lot of those early Beach Boys songs are just about girls and surfing, it doesn't stop them from being great songs. It's how Lady GaGa develops in the future that will be the true test.

[golddustdrummer]

Originally Posted by Black_Moon

I'm saying that, she's not showing off her talent. I think the media promotes celebrities getting up to shocking things though to keep attention. One of the negative things of our society. Hence why she probably feels the need to keep having her face shown in magazines and things. I don't know, like others have said, maybe she'll reinvent herself into a serious artist? Or maybe she'll just bring up the hermaphrodite (sp?) thing over and over and over...

hahaha
she might have to!

[Black_Moon]

Originally Posted by golddustdrummer

hahaha
she might have to!

To take this thread to the gutter, I wish someone would just give a straight answer on this topic!