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Old 11-06-2008, 01:08 AM
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Nico, now I am trying my best to get into Jakob Dylan, but not really being a Bob Dylan fan...well, that may be a stumbling block. The similarities & comparisons are inevitable, but I do agree that you have to look at his own body of work and ignore his heritage

From what I have heard, Wallflowers vs. solo stuff, I think the man needs a BAND! His lyrics in the Wallflowers were still dark, mysterious, err...depressing(?).. BUT his band was really good at developing some snappy sounds around all those melancholy words. Now we just have the depressing lyrics and no snappy sounds

SO Jakob, you DID the "Yeah-I'm-Springsteen-but-I-can-be-a-real-drag-if-I-wanna-be" thing ("Nebraska","The Ghost of Tom Joad")...now, take a couple Xanax, get back on that whorse and make something we can DANCE to!

PS...even that "Man-I-could-use-some-sleep-GODIMDEPRESSED-hey-pass-that-joint-this-way-MANIMACREEP!" Thom Yorke Radiohead dude manages to get out there and DANCE!!!
Hmm...well, I do love Thom Yorke's dance moves, gotta say.

Really, I can't defend Jakob Dylan or his music. I just like it. Could also be that he was kind of big when I was in school and that music is probably just embedded in my subconscious as part of the nostalgia trip. Or it could be that he's just a really good songwriter and I love his music & voice. Yeah, it's not innovative and it certainly isn't groundbreaking, but I like the sincerity in which he delivers his words- and I love the words he uses to tell his stories. And I love his voice. So there. Nothing more. I'm in love with his father, but I always take them as separate entities, because I do feel he has earned that right.

Now, since we may be on the topic of Bob Dylan. And forget for a minute that I was arguing the validity of Jakob being judged separately, I want to say that I am currently playing out Tell Tale Signs along with-still-Lindsey and here's one of my favorite things ever (and I love the album version just as much):

Someday Baby (Bob Dylan)

I don't care what you do, I don't care what you say
I don't care where you go or how long you stay
Someday baby, you ain't gonna worry about me any more

Well you take my money and you turn it out
You fill me up with nothing but self doubt
Someday baby, you ain't gonna worry about me any more

When I was young, driving was my crave
You drive me so hard, almost to the grave
Someday baby, you ain't gonna worry about me any more

I'm so hard pressed, my mind tied up in knots
I keep recycling the same old thoughts
Someday baby, you ain't gonna worry about me me any more

So many good things in life that I've overlooked
I don't know what to do now, you got me hooked
Someday baby, you ain't gonna worry about me me any more

Well, I don't want to brag, but I'm gonna wring your neck
When all else fails I'll make it a matter of self respect
Someday baby, you ain't gonna worry about me any more

You can take your clothes put them em in a sack
You're going down the road, baby and you can't come back
Someday baby, you ain't gonna worry about me any more

I tried to be friendly, I tried to be kind
I'm gonna drive you from your home, just like I was driven from mine
Someday baby, you ain't gonna worry about me any more

Living this way ain't a natural thing to do
Why was I born to love you?

Someday baby, you ain't gonna worry about me any more
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:05 PM
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Sorry Nico, I wasn't bashing Jakob Dylan or trying to get you to justify why you think he's great. Some artists we love for nostalgic or associative reasons, I mean...my affinity for Todd Rundgren owes a large part to the fact my older sisters loved him. And he's produced some great things too, like XTC (although the b*st*rd gave me one of my worst concerts EVER, I still like him)

People that I look up to or respect a great deal, I try to appreciate things that they love. So, you could say by my trying to understand why you love Jakob so much, that I respect YOUR music choices a great deal. ( I do--you have GREAT taste!)

Now that Bob Dylan song...those are powerful lyrics! But the thing that struck me the most was your tagline from The Killers. I sometimes feel this way:
"Pay my respects to grace and virtue, send my condolences to good; Give my regards to soul and romance, they always did the best they could..."

Hey, they are playing The Killers on the radio, and THAT'S some music I can definitely get into! "Somebody told me, that you had a boyfriend, Who looks like a girlfriend, That I had in February of last year......" HOT STUFF!
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:37 PM
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to how I am feeling at this moment:

"Wearing The Inside Out" - Pink Floyd

"From morning to night I stayed out of sight
Didn't recognize I'd become
No more than alive I'd barely survive
In a word...overrun

Won't hear a sound
From my mouth
I've spent too long
On the inside out
My skin is cold
To the human touch
This bleeding heart's
Not beating much

I murmured a vow of silence and now
I don't even hear when I think aloud
Extinguished by light I turn on the night
Wear its darkness with an empty smile

I'm creeping back to life
My nervous system all awry
I'm wearing the inside out


Look at him now
He's paler somehow
But he's coming round
He's starting to choke
It's been so long since he spoke
Well he can have the words right from my mouth

And with these words I can see
Clear through the clouds that covered me
Just give it time then speak my name
Now we can hear ourselves again

I'm holding out
For the day
When all the clouds
Have blown away
I'm with you now
Can speak your name
Now we can hear
Ourselves again"
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:17 PM
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"Broken, Beat & Scarred" - Metallica

"You rise, you fall, you're down then you rise again,
What don't kill ya makes ya more strong,
Rise, fall, down, rise again,
What don't kill ya makes ya more strong.

Rise, fall, down, rise again,
What don't kill ya makes ya more strong,
Rise, fall, down, rise again,
What don't kill ya makes ya more strong.

Through black days, through black nights,
Through pitch black insides.

CHORUS:
Breakin' your teeth on the hard life a'comin,
(Show your scars)
Cuttin' your feet on the hard earth running
(Show your scars)
Breakin' your life, broken beat and scarred,
But we die hard.

The dawn, the death, the fight to the final breath,
What don't kill ya makes ya more strong,
Dawn, death, fight, final breath,
What don't kill ya makes ya more strong.

They scratch me, they scrape me,
They cut and rape me.

CHORUS

We die hard.
We die hard."
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Old 10-31-2008, 04:07 PM
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Unhappy The saddest song of all-time

"It Can't Rain All The Time" - Jane Siberry (From the motion picture soundtrack of the movie "The Crow")

"We walk the narrow path
Beneath the smoking skies
Sometimes you barely tell the difference
Between the darkness...and light.

Do we have faith...in what we believe?
The truest test...is when we cannot
When we cannot see.

I hear the pounding feet in the
In the streets below and the
And the women crying and the
And the children know that there's
There's something wrong
It's hard to believe that love will prevail.

(Oh)
It won't rain all the time
The sky won't fall forever
And though the night seems long
Your tears won't fall...forever.

Oh, when I'm lonely...I lie awake at night
And I wish you were here
I miss you.

Can you tell me
Is there something more to believe in?
Or is this all there is?

And the pounding feet in the
In the streets below and a
And a window breaks and a
And a woman falls and it's -
There's something wrong -
It's, it's hard to believe that love will prevail.

It won't rain all the time
The sky won't fall forever
And though the night seems long
Your tears won't fall
Your tears won't fall
Your tears won't fall...
Forever.

Last night I had a dream
You came into my room
You took me into your arms
Whispering and kissing me
And telling me to still believe
(Within the emptiness of
The burning cities against which
We set our darkest of selves)
Until I felt safe and warm
I fell asleep in your arms
And when I awoke I cried again
For you were gone
Oh, can you hear me?

It won't rain all the time
The sky won't fall forever
And though the night seems long
Your tears won't fall forever.

It won't rain all the time
The sky won't fall forever
And though the night seems long
Your tears won't fall
Your tears won't fall
Your tears won't fall...
Forever."
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Old 10-31-2008, 05:31 PM
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You all know this one...let's all sing along...




I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing
I ain't pretty
And, my legs are thin

But, don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to.

Oh well.

Now I talked to God
I knew he'd understand
He said, "Sit by me and take my guiding hand.

But, don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to."

Oh well.
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Old 11-01-2008, 01:38 AM
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I am a scientist - I seek to understand me
All of my impurities and evils yet unknown
I am a journalist - I write to you to show you
I am an incurable
And nothing else behaves like me

And I know what's right
But I'm losing sight
Of the clues for which I search and choose to abuse
To just unlock my mind
Yeah, and just unlock my mind

I am a pharmacist
Prescriptions I will fill you
Potions, pills, and medicines
To ease your painful lives
I am a lost soul
I shoot myself with rock & roll
The hole I dig is bottomless
But nothing else can set me free

I am a scientist - I seek to understand me
I am an incurable and nothing else behaves like me

Everything is right
Everything works out right
Everything fades from sight
Because that's alright with me


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