Please, Say You Will

[gypsysoul]

SYW is currently ensconsed in my CD player in the car. I don't think it's a classic like Rumours whereby no matter how many times you hear it you still feel a tingle down the spine. But I think it's a great album from a band at this stage in their career.
The only two tracks I skip regularly are Running through the Garden and Silver Girl. And yes, Christine would have balanced it a bit more.

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

It is my favorite FM "album" to date.

It's my favourite FM album too. Tusk is a close second, but Say you Will is sharper and the off balance pattern makes it less reassuring but more contemporary and intriguing for me.

Romy

[Johnny Stew]

For me, 'Say You Will' takes all of the things I love best about 'Rumours,' 'Tusk' and 'Tango In The Night,' and then updates them for the new millennium.

Easily one of my all-time favorite Mac albums.

[GypsySorcerer]

I enjoy Say You Will. As far as ranking it is concerned, it's somewhere in the middle of the pack. Tusk will always be my favorite. Perfection!

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

For me, 'Say You Will' takes all of the things I love best about 'Rumours,' 'Tusk' and 'Tango In The Night,' and then updates them for the new millennium.

Easily one of my all-time favorite Mac albums.

Mine is Mirage - in the minority I know - but so be it!!!!!!

As for SYW - the record lacked, for me, a cohesive feel - though some songs truly shine. I do like the record though.

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Mine is Mirage - in the minority I know - but so be it!!!!!!

I have always felt Mirage was a tad underrated. I love Stevie's material. Lindsey's too (except for the horrific "Empire State."). Chris' is okay.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

I have always felt Mirage was a tad underrated. I love Stevie's material. Lindsey's too (except for the horrific "Empire State."). Chris' is okay.

funny, i love stevie's and chris's material on mirage but can't stand lindsey's for the most part. yeah, empire state - yikes!

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

to h*ll with critics. It's my darling. And SYW is the closest ting to Tusk FM has ever made. TIME???
second hand toiletpaper.

My friend, I'm sorry, for the error in your judgement...(on both counts).....

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

As for SYW - the record lacked, for me, a cohesive feel - though some songs truly shine. I do like the record though.

I agree although I think most of the songs "shine." There are only a handful that I skip past: Bleed To Love Her (never liked this one), Silver Girl, Peacekeeper, and SYW. I just got sick of the last two, they're not bad songs in their own right.

[David]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

I agree although I think most of the songs "shine." There are only a handful that I skip past: Bleed To Love Her (never liked this one), Silver Girl, Peacekeeper, and SYW. I just got sick of the last two, they're not bad songs in their own right.

To me, the songs on SYW are as good as all the other FM songs on the other albums, but I just don't enjoy listening to the album because of the way it sounds, the sonics of it. My theory is that, just like the army of backups ruins the sonic environment of the stage show, the army of production & engineering guys who did SYW ****ed that one up--or "updated" the sonics so that the style simulates today's semiunderground hits, possibly (or Reprise's idea of "viable" music). The other theory I have is that Lindsey, with age, has lost his keen ear & his instincts for crafting the best possible sound & presentation for each track. The Fleetwood Mac "gleam" seems to have dulled, even though the songwriters are still writing good material.

[amber]

^^^

Along those lines. Yesterday I was thinking about this album, and although I think it is really good, and like it a lot, I can't see listening to it as much as the others. Most of the songs are extremely crowded, and therefore don't highlight what I love most about the mac - vocals, and harmonies. Any harmonies are buried under huge layers of sound that fuzzes everything together, so that nothing sounds distinctive. It's ridiculous that those two singers sang so many "separate" songs on this album. Yes, I do realize they were singing on each other's songs, but to no great effect, IMO.
However - though the sound buries, I also really like the music. I think some of it is very interesting, notably Murrow and Red Rover. And I like most of the rest.
It all should've just been managed a little better, with a bit of a lighter touch and more space in many of the songs. A couple of Stevie's songs have more space, but sadly I don't like those quite as much (excepting Goodbye Baby, which I think is good with "just" her voice). However, I'm sure I would like them a lot more if Lindsey had devised some fab harmony to sing with her, and cut the band back a bit. Her voice now just isn't quite compelling enough to make me like so many songs sung solo for the most part. but when she sings with Lindsey or others, she sounds amazing still.

I'm not a musician, so I can't really get into production and things like that, this is just an opinion about what I hear as the overall sound.
Still and all, I think it is a pretty great album.

[JazmenFlowers]

seriously people, what's wrong with Silver Girl? it is inching on taking over Everybody Finds Out and Goodbye Baby as my favorite on the album. I freaking love it.

if you want to hate on a track, I'll give you 1...hell, I'll give you 2...Smile At You and RTTG - god, they ruined 2 of my favorite demos.

[chiliD]

At this point, the only song on SYW that just makes me want to projectile vomit is "Running Through The Garden". I've started to appreciate both "Come" & "Silver Girl" in recent listens. I liked the rest of the album right off. (especially since I'd already heard most of Lindsey's tunes for about a year or so before the album was released)

Originally Posted by shackin'up

TIME??? second hand toiletpaper.

{heavy sigh}

Some people just never learn. And, he wonders why people insult him. It's almost laughable if it weren't so pathetic

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by amber

^^^

Along those lines. Yesterday I was thinking about this album, and although I think it is really good, and like it a lot, I can't see listening to it as much as the others. Most of the songs are extremely crowded, and therefore don't highlight what I love most about the mac - vocals, and harmonies. Any harmonies are buried under huge layers of sound that fuzzes everything together, so that nothing sounds distinctive.

While this may be true, I think that absence of Chris's 3rd vocal layer on top of that two-part harmony is a big contributor to the diminshed Mac harmony you're talking about . It's glaringly obvious that Chris is absent and the vocals suffer for it.

[amber]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

While this may be true, I think that absence of Chris's 3rd vocal layer on top of that two-part harmony is a big contributor to the diminshed Mac harmony you're talking about . It's glaringly obvious that Chris is absent and the vocals suffer for it.

Yeah, they would've been nice in some spots, but if the fact that Chris wasn't there is what stopped those two from singing harmonies together, and making them more prominent, that is really retarded. I mean, it's not like they don't sound great together, and surely they know that. If they've heard Buckingham Nicks. (yes, a joke, I realize that was long ago. But still!).
If what you are saying is that all the harmonies didn't sound as good b/c of the lack of Chris, I'd have to disagree. Again, Chris would have been nice, but I also think it would have been nice with just LB and SN, had they done the songs differently. Just look at how beautiful BC was on the last tour.