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Old 03-25-2006, 12:25 AM
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I've no idea what the point is really. Just that I guess i have a tendency to jump on and off here all the time and I prefer not to be seen doing it. I don't think I'm paranoid. I've probably got a little touch of O/C though.

As for amber I have no idea, I suspect she puts some serious hours in on here on and off. Anybody that has nearly 19,000 posts obviously has an opinion on most things!

You could go f**k yourself but it's probably not a good idea. The only Ledgie I have that accolade reserved for is our Dutch chum Gerald.
I don't know the point either. But you know, Madformac...someone mentioned the fact that I pop in and pop out...it's true, I'm a net surfer...so much going on and things to read and see and hear and I'm generally a one browser window kinda guy. But then I always come back here to see what's up. I must say sometimes It is really fun to be here with people, you know are present and actually discussing things quickly...it can be really fun. You know that though, I'm sure.

I don't think you're paranoid either (but then do I really know you?) lol. I've been absolutely flippant today.
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Old 03-25-2006, 12:29 AM
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i had a stevie dream last night which is a bit unusual
altho is was detailed, i will keep it brief as thats my preference
stevie fell on 'hard times' and was opening a spectical in a small town
while driving i spotted a pink/blue neon sign stevie nicks
i wanted to get a closer look (tell the ledgies all about it )
but as i approached the stage stevie was upset...
pointing at paparazzis and other types approachimg nearby
she never directly look at me... (yeah!)
she was however total pout that 'everybody would find out'
yet i ask you how could we miss this amazing sight!
i immed stepped into the shadows and left allowing her due respect for her apparent wishes

the end
Red!! Help her now.

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Love this part you super QT:
while driving i spotted a pink/blue neon sign stevie nicks
i wanted to get a closer look (tell the ledgies all about it )

Hey all...she dreams of us...Love it.
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Old 03-25-2006, 01:25 AM
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You know, Amber, secretive is not a word I'd choose for Cancer. Leave that to a Scorpio, they do it so much better.

Just continue to move about life in an indirect manner, such as the crab.

LOL. And yes...I'm a bit on edge today, but playfully so. I appreciate you noticing. I skipped caffeine today and I think therein lies the "trouble."
You are wrong. Cancer keeps their own counsel while ferreting secrets out of others. What books have you been reading? I've read that Cancer doesn't like to reveal their secrets like, a million times. Hard to believe you missed that.
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Old 03-25-2006, 01:48 AM
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You are wrong.
Cancer keeps their own counsel while ferreting secrets out of others. What books have you been reading? I've read that Cancer doesn't like to reveal their secrets like, a million times. Hard to believe you missed that.
I know you don't like hearing it, but you're gonna. Just like I'm putting up with your crabby pinchers.
I stand by my comment that Scorpios are better at secrets than a Cancer. Cancer wears their emotions on their sleeve. Easy to read...they just don't like getting cornered and called out. That's when they retreat. So what do you do when this happens? Withdraw or attack. Much more sensitive than secretive. I read plenty of books and granted opinions change from author to author, but I know enough to call it. But secretive? Puhlease. The only thing Cancer is really good at is manipulation.
It's like every Cancer I know say they can get a joke, but they can't (especially if they're the butt of the joke). Every Cancer I know thinks their funny (telling their silly jokes), but they're not.

So again, I ask, no, I implore you, tell me your rising or moon.

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Also since I'm a Capricorn, you see right through your opposite sign. All opposite signs can see through each other. Don't get me wrong, I love Cancers...they can be so wonderfully, emotionally deep.

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Old 03-25-2006, 02:02 AM
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Red!! Help her now.

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Love this part you super QT:
while driving i spotted a pink/blue neon sign stevie nicks
i wanted to get a closer look (tell the ledgies all about it )

Hey all...she dreams of us...Love it.
<<< heart thumping. Loud >>>
i knew how happy youd all be
but i never did tell
as i want stevie happy too

hey richard...my secret!
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Old 03-25-2006, 08:50 AM
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I had a really weird dream just last week. I dreamt that I was getting ready to see Stevie in concert and I was with 2 friends who I did not know. I was afraid that we were going to be late but we got there very early. We went over to the side of the stage near the stairs and sure enough Stevie was right over there. There were only about 10 people at the arena at that time so we all went right over to the metal bar that was in front of the stairs. I was the first person in front of the bar and I was standing right in front of her. Well, she started to chat and shake hands with the person right next me and on down the opposite way. Boy was I pissed!
So finally I got her attention and she was very nice and said ‘Hi, nice to see you” and she gave me a big smile all while holding my hands. OK, in my dream I was all dolled up but I did not get to do my nails and my nails were unpainted and kind of all different shapes and sizes. Well, she looked down at my hands as she was holding them and she made this weird face and shook her head NO and said something like ‘Oh how could you?” and she walked away from me. I was mortified! I could not believe that Stevie was a nail snob! I think that I was really rude to her at the concert. I think I showed her just one of my nails on one of my fingers if you know what I mean and then I walked out.
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:47 AM
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^ Stevie has no right to look down on your manicure, what with her 1988 hooker-red polish she still insists on wearing.

I've had a few, most were right before shows about being late or unable to find my seat, or realizing I was 10,000 feet away & couldn't see a thing.

But my favorite was when Mac played on my elementary school's stage - which is in the cafeteria, btw.
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Old 03-25-2006, 05:34 PM
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I know you don't like hearing it, but you're gonna. Just like I'm putting up with your crabby pinchers.
I stand by my comment that Scorpios are better at secrets than a Cancer. Cancer wears their emotions on their sleeve. Easy to read...they just don't like getting cornered and called out. That's when they retreat. So what do you do when this happens? Withdraw or attack. Much more sensitive than secretive. I read plenty of books and granted opinions change from author to author, but I know enough to call it. But secretive? Puhlease. The only thing Cancer is really good at is manipulation.
It's like every Cancer I know say they can get a joke, but they can't (especially if they're the butt of the joke). Every Cancer I know thinks their funny (telling their silly jokes), but they're not.

So again, I ask, no, I implore you, tell me your rising or moon.

EDIT:
Also since I'm a Capricorn, you see right through your opposite sign. All opposite signs can see through each other. Don't get me wrong, I love Cancers...they can be so wonderfully, emotionally deep.

*sigh* I don't deny Scorpios are better at it. And wearing your emotions on your sleeve (face) is different than actually revealing secrets about yourself or someone else.
As for "getting called out" and retreating when an emotion is spotted, yeah, I do that sometimes. So what?
I can take a joke. Not every joke, people can't massively rip on me in mean spirit without me saying something. It's weird how every Cancer you know isn't funny, don't you think? Little suspicious, right? Maybe it's you. I'd also like to add that I think Ryan, Danax, Ragandbone, Krista, AlltheSame, Romy, SteveMacD, are funny - they are Cancers on this board.

Besides, a Capricorn judging who is funny is ridiculous and pointless. And a Capricorn judging who and who cannot take a joke is laughable as well, since Caps are not known for their self deprecation or lighthearted approach to living.
I think it's bull**** that people can "see right through" their opposite sign, by the way. Few earth signs understand me at all, they are largely to stolid, or I am too ephemeral. I've only had one good earth sign friend in my life, in fact. (Hi Paula!!! ) And only one earth sign boyfriend, but he didn't get me, and he was boring.
I'd certainly never claim to see right through all Capricorns.

And I've already told you my rising sign and moon, but I'll do it again. Rising aquarius, moon sagittarius, venus gemini, mars leo, mercury cancer, saturn cancer. I have a neptune/moon/midheaven conjunction in Sag. Additionally, I have no earth signs in my entire chart.
Oh, and those weren't crabby pincers. But these are.
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Old 03-25-2006, 06:36 PM
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*sigh* I don't deny Scorpios are better at it. And wearing your emotions on your sleeve (face) is different than actually revealing secrets about yourself or someone else.
As for "getting called out" and retreating when an emotion is spotted, yeah, I do that sometimes. So what?
I can take a joke. Not every joke, people can't massively rip on me in mean spirit without me saying something. And I am funny - I didn't make that up, though, other people told me that. Actually, I got voted that once, by my entire senior class. Okay, not that people in highschool are great judges, but still. It's weird how every Cancer you know isn't funny, don't you think? Little suspicious, right? Maybe it's you. I'd also like to add that I think Ryan, Danax, Ragandbone, Krista, AlltheSame, Romy, SteveMacD, are funny - they are Cancers on this board.

Besides, a Capricorn judging who is funny is ridiculous and pointless. And a Capricorn judging who and who cannot take a joke is laughable as well, since Caps I know are not self deprecating, and can rarely take a joke.
I think it's bull**** that people can "see right through" their opposite sign, by the way. Few earth signs understand me at all, they are largely to stolid, or I am too ephemeral. I've only had one good earth sign friend in my life, in fact. (Hi Paula!!! ) And only one earth sign boyfriend, but he didn't get me, and he was boring - he just happened to be good at sex. I'd certainly never claim to see right through a capricorn.

And I've already told you my rising sign and moon, but I'll do it again. Rising aquarius, moon sagittarius, venus gemini, mars leo, mercury cancer, saturn cancer. I have a neptune/moon/midheaven conjunction in Sag. Additionally, I have no earth signs in my entire chart.
Oh, and those weren't crabby pincers. But these are. It's what happens when you say a**holish things.
You make me laugh. So sensitive it kills me. All too easy. I was so amused by you last night that I read our postings to a Astrologer friend this morning. We were laughing so hard.

Keep that Aquarius in check! That most idealistic sign tends to make you think you are certain ways because that's what you desire to be or find pleasantly ideal, but often, you're not. Aquarius is very good at doing that. Strong ideas and thoughts but they don't always adhere to them. Is it in the first house by chance? If so, count on that to be even more true. Any sign in the first house within your chart plays a strong, predominant role.

Reading all your posts that I have (through time), it's pretty evident you have no grounding element in your chart. Not a surprise to find out! I'm glad you told me, you make even more sense to me now.

As for humor. Yes, it's all relative. Everyone likes to think they're funny, but not everyone's funny. We all can't be comedians. Obviously I was making a sweeping generalization (which you being non-grounded missed!), some of my Cancer friends do make me laugh on occasion. But generally not in the way they intended. It's more of a cute chuckle than an all out, stomach heaving, roll out of a laugh. I also would never bring up other folks names into our discussion, even if it is for the most part good cheeky fun. I can't believe you did that!

As for opposite signs seeing through each other. It's true. Think of your opposite sign as the Yin/Yang, two opposing contradictions, but are perfectly balanced. Dig deeper, Amber, dig deeper. It's hard for air/fire signs. You have them right in emotions/feelings (Sag), how others see you inner motivation (Aquarius), love/sex/passions (Gemini...eeek) and another most important aspect, midheaven (Sag). When you're in perfect balance, you're most like a Sag. When you feel right, read a Sag chart and see what happens.

Course...all this astrology jabber could be complete bull****.
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Old 03-25-2006, 07:14 PM
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And sadly, you don't make me laugh.
If we're both contributing to the same conversation, how am I the sensitive one? You're saying your point just the same as I am. You think you're right just like I do.
Trust you to try to seem superior and not sensitive. And then to tell me to keep something in check.
You're pretty ridiculous, actually. Try to keep that in check.

And I hardly think it is a faux pas to name people while complimenting them. It's not like these people's signs are a secret!

Reading your posts it's pretty obvious to me that you have too many grounding elements.

It's simplistic of you to say: "Think of your opposite sign as the Yin/Yang, two opposing contradictions, but are perfectly balanced."
My opposite sign isn't my perfect opposite/balance, because everyone is made up of a whole chart, no one is all exactly like their sign. Which is why it's foolish to say you can see right through your opposite. I mean, I can probably more easily see right through a gemini, or an aries, and I've had some Scorpios see right through me, but never a capricorn.
However, I now vote you "person who is most adamant that they can see through me, but really doesn't know me at all".
I mean, really, how arrogant. It's okay, though - people often misinterpret me - they think I'm thinking and doing something that I'm not, they think I feel how I don't, etc.

One of my biggest pet peeves is people who try to irritate someone purposely, then act superior because that person got irritated. Oh, good job!

And I have Jupiter in Pisces in the first house.

And for various reasons which would take a long time to explain, saying that I'll feel most balanced when Sag like is only a fraction true. It's important, yes, but I think more in the career sector. Especially considering it's aspects, and also the fact that I have a (most likely) stronger influence with sun,saturn, & mercury within a few degrees of each other in Cancer in the fifth house. Would that it were that simple, however....

I wish Towie were here. Which reminds me that he said he was once in a band with a Capricorn and a Cancer - He's an Aries...
He'd have a whole nother interesting perspective, too.
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As for opposite signs seeing through each other. It's true. Think of your opposite sign as the Yin/Yang, two opposing contradictions, but are perfectly balanced.
This works (for me) if you think of oppositional forces as being in relationship, then the "seeing-through" can be a kind of empathy, rather than transparency.

Did you ever know anyone who walked into a plate glass door, because they only saw through it?
ouch!
*note. I know very little about astrology, although I did live with 3 astrologers, once.
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And sadly, you don't make me laugh.
If we're both contributing to the same conversation, how am I the sensitive one? You're saying your point just the same as I am. You think you're right just like I do.
Trust you to try to seem superior and not sensitive. And then to tell me to keep something in check.
You're pretty ridiculous, actually. Try to keep that in check.

And I hardly think it is a faux pas to name people while complimenting them. It's not like these people's signs are a secret!

Reading your posts it's pretty obvious to me that you have too many grounding elements.

It's simplistic of you to say: "Think of your opposite sign as the Yin/Yang, two opposing contradictions, but are perfectly balanced."
My opposite sign isn't my perfect opposite/balance, because everyone is made up of a whole chart, no one is all exactly like their sign. Which is why it's foolish to say you can see right through your opposite. I mean, I can probably more easily see right through a gemini, or an aries, and I've had some Scorpios see right through me, but never a capricorn.
However, I now vote you "person who is most adamant that they can see through me, but really doesn't know me at all".
I mean, really, how arrogant. It's okay, though - people often misinterpret me - they think I'm thinking and doing something that I'm not, they think I feel how I don't, etc.

One of my biggest pet peeves is people who try to irritate someone purposely, then act superior because that person got irritated. Oh, good job!

And I have Jupiter in Pisces in the first house.

And for various reasons which would take a long time to explain, saying that I'll feel most balanced when Sag like is only a fraction true. It's important, yes, but I think more in the career sector. Especially considering it's aspects, and also the fact that I have a (most likely) stronger influence with sun,saturn, & mercury within a few degrees of each other in Cancer in the fifth house. Would that it were that simple, however....

I wish Towie were here. Which reminds me that he said he was once in a band with a Capricorn and a Cancer - He's an Aries...
He'd have a whole nother interesting perspective, too.
More laughs! Thanks, Amber, you're making my day. Sorry you're not amused by all this. It's all rather silly, dont'cha think? But being non-grounded, you find no humor. You're not so mellow, so down-to-earth.

"See right through it" is an expression, not a literal translation. You're not very fun to spar with and this is getting rather tedious for the written word. Would much rather have a conversation with you. But then I don't think we'd actually really like each other. LOL.

Actually Amber, I am also an Aquarius Rising, in the first house no less. Got Aquarius in several other places and water, lot's of water, Scorpio, all Scorpio and 1 Pisces. And one misplaced Aries! Aries are, in general, my least favorite sign (I lived with 2 of them, male and female, at one time!). But that's another story.

You said:
"One of my biggest pet peeves is people who try to irritate someone purposely, then act superior because that person got irritated. Oh, good job! "

Who's doing what to whom now? You're a silly girl.
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ok...is it the virgo in me that rather wishes the dream thread wasnt cluttered with this crap?!
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ok...is it the virgo in me that rather wishes the dream thread wasnt cluttered with this crap?!
Well, I am Taurus and I also thought this thread was about dreams and no not 'Dreams". So much for that.That is The Ledge for you sometimes.

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Red interprets dreams?? I want her to interpret this recurring sex dream of mine.
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