South Dakota House Approves Abortion Ban

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Germany? Well, I guess you're in no danger there as that country has already been there and done that.
I'd love to hear more about it if you feel like posting.

Hey Germany's cool. After all, I'm 100% thru and thru German. First generation american in my family!

[Moony]

This is incredibly disgusting. That's it, I'm marrying a Spanish guy and getting the hell out of this country.

[SteveMacD]

While I LOVE Canada, they recently elected the Conservatives to power, albeit a minority government. The new PM has suggested banning abortions and will be introducing legislation to ban gay marriage. They don't have the votes to get either through, but it looks as if the Great White North may be heading to the right.

In any event, sure the Republicans are trying to drive the US to the right, at the same time, they're going further down in the opinion polls. This is why they're talking about banning abortion and gay adoption. They know this will charge a certain percentage of their base. In other words, they're desperate! This is their attempt at holding on to power. That's all it is. I see this nothing more as a desperate attempt at retaining power. The problem for them is that the situation in Iraq is becoming less popular in the US, the Republican leadership is constantly in the news for facing criminal charges, and many in this country feel the Republicans are selling this country out.

[irishgrl]

SD Law may fall short of mark

One state's ban might not stand up to 'Roe' precedent
By Stephen Henderson
Inquirer Washington Bureau

At first glance, the abortion ban passed yesterday in South Dakota may seem like the first salvo in the long-anticipated Great War over abortion. It's a state law that takes on Roe v. Wade directly, saying there simply is no right to end a pregnancy.

But for that reason alone, the South Dakota action is likely to fizzle well short of its mark. The landmark Roe ruling has stood for 33 years and has been reaffirmed more than 30 times by the Supreme Court. As precedents go on the high court, it's rock-solid. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter (R., Pa.) has taken to calling it a "super-precedent."

Moreover, the court's new makeup, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., may make little difference in the court's math on this issue. Even if Roberts and Alito were to back a direct attack on abortion rights - a big if - five justices remain who have voted before to preserve Roe.

Unless one of those five changes his or her mind, the South Dakota ban seems almost certainly headed for a quick legal slap-down: a permanent injunction that would not even be reviewed by the high court.

"I don't see much chance this law could survive," said constitutional scholar David Garrow, who has written extensively about abortion and Roe. "There just isn't any question it violates Roe, and there aren't the votes on the court now to overturn it."

Abortion opponents have had far greater success with efforts to whittle away at the scope of Roe, rather than taking it on directly, Garrow and others said.

This fall, for example, the high court will revisit the idea of banning so-called partial-birth abortion; the court previously rejected such a ban, but Alito's presence - in place of Sandra Day O'Connor - could tip the balance in the other direction. That would be a major victory for antiabortion interests and would increase the chances that other limits would survive constitutional scrutiny.

Eventually, there may be five votes to overturn Roe itself, but the path to that goal runs through smaller, incremental squabbles in the margins.

"It's not that Roe couldn't someday be overturned," Garrow said. "It's just that this is much too early to think in those terms. Strategically, it's not a good move."

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by msLinds

Hi everyone, I am usually just lurking on the Penguin Ledge everyday.
But as a Proud, Pro Choice, 48 year old, Gay Woman.What these antichoice
turds are trying to do, outlawing all abortions, angers me, and sickens me.
One thing anyone can do to help fight the rightwing anti choice agenda that does not cost any money and is very important, is to join the action alerts for these national prochoice organizations.I have been on their action alerts for years.If you can't afford to send money etc, that is fine, not everyone can afford to. But please help by signing the petitions that come out online etc.Every time I get a e mail from these groups asking to help, my senators and congress, governor, etc, get a signed action alert letter from me asking them to support or oppose issues.Even if they are prochoice they still get bombarded with anti choice E mails and calls still even though the antichoice groups know where these senators, etc stand.They need to know,and be reminded that the majority of the people in the USA are prochoice.Don't just get upset and angry fight back.
Linds
California



http://www.naral.org/


http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/


http://www.prochoice.org/default.htm

Hey Linds,
good to see ya out in the open! btw: Im on ALL your action alert lists already

you should post more often. nuff said.