Stevie, '75 vs. '77

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

In program terms, she is neither.

Well if her only addiction was Cocaine and Klonopin she has been clean I presume.I'm not 100% sure how NA works so is having a shot of tequila or a glass of wine considered a relapse?I'm not certain what her weed habits are either but I'd guess she still imbibes.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

He dodges most of his high notes. And he gets a lot of help from his sound guy. I don't think Robert's voice sounds that great anymore.

I saw him live last year and he was amazing, so I'd have to disagree. Of courrse he's nowhere near where he used to be, but considering all the stress he's put his voice through, it's quite amazing that he can still sing well.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by The Tower

I would disagree with that. Ann's vocal timbre had changed quite a bit- her range is still there for sure, the the tone of her voice has aged.

Well sure, but it's not as marked a difference as Stevie's. Ann still sounds like Ann from the 70's, perhaps a few shades off from aging, but not much. Imo, Stevie's voice sounds NOTHING like it did in the 70's. The difference is like night and day. That was the point I was mainly making .

And as far as Stevie's voice not being the same caliber as Ann's...you're right. The point I was trying to make, is that both women wailed like banshees back in their younger years, yet, one came out sounding much better than the other in her later years. Perhaps Ann's voice is just naturally stronger, or maybe she took better care of it, I don't know. All I know is, Stevie's voice sounds like a, as you say, "pale shadow of its former self." She's still got it, but boy, some of the live stuff from the past couple of years is not a good testament to her vocal ability. She's really more off key than people realize I think.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

I didnt know **** when I was 17... Still dont. And I'm damn near 35 now...

I'm 35 now and know next-to-nothing. David. I think I know less than I did when I was 21!

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

I recently got DVD of a '75 FM concert in Largo and '77 Japan concert/Rosebud film. Which I'm sure you've all seen a million times, but brand new to me (except for the Rhiannon clip).

I notice a remarkable change in Stevie between the '75 and '77 performances. In '75, she is wearing pants, seems a bit awkward onstage, and her moves are rather hippiesh. I love her in this video!

In '77, she seems to have fully developed her "persona", with the skirts, spins, spacey moves, and she is totally confident.

Also, as much as I love current Stevie, watching the '05 Las Vegas show after seeing these performances is rather

I think it's cool that you and I got the dvds at the same time and posted something re: the "75 Stevie" almost simultaneously! I did mine on the Rumors link. Maybe I should have done it on here!

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

Well sure, but it's not as marked a difference as Stevie's. Ann still sounds like Ann from the 70's, perhaps a few shades off from aging, but not much. Imo, Stevie's voice sounds NOTHING like it did in the 70's. The difference is like night and day. That was the point I was mainly making .

Ann's voice actually got better with age. She was at the top of her form between '84 and '90- she's only a shade off of that now. I think it's sad that we don't have the Stevie voice from that era anymore.

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by MacMan

I understood what you meant in your initial post Rick... And with what you are comparing the old footage to, you are right... The first night in Vegas WAS a little stiff and uninspired, but it's the first night... a little nervy I suppose. She loosened up as the week and eventual tour went on.

I was at opening night in Vegas..in all fairness..it was NOT a good show!

[JWS]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

I recently got DVD of a '75 FM concert in Largo and '77 Japan concert/Rosebud film. Which I'm sure you've all seen a million times, but brand new to me (except for the Rhiannon clip).

I notice a remarkable change in Stevie between the '75 and '77 performances. In '75, she is wearing pants, seems a bit awkward onstage, and her moves are rather hippiesh. I love her in this video!

In '77, she seems to have fully developed her "persona", with the skirts, spins, spacey moves, and she is totally confident.

Also, as much as I love current Stevie, watching the '05 Las Vegas show after seeing these performances is rather

Ricky..please help. I've been looking for '75-'77 era FM video/dvd and haven't found anything on Amazon or similar prior to '82 Mirage. Where did you get these DVD's?

[Moony]

Originally Posted by AuDustWoman

Rick, what are you saying about Stevie'sperformance being !!! Let's see what kind of rocker you are at the age of 57!!! How dare you pass judgement like that, and you call yourself a fan? You should be thrilled that she is still out there Rockin' her heart out for us, her devoted and eternally grateful fans!!!

Everybody run, it's mega-chiffonhead.

[MacMan]

Originally Posted by JWS

Ricky..please help. I've been looking for '75-'77 era FM video/dvd and haven't found anything on Amazon or similar prior to '82 Mirage. Where did you get these DVD's?

You can still download them here: http://www.throwndown-videos.net/bit...s/torrents.php

Artist: Fleetwood Mac
Title: Japan 77 and Largo 75

1975 Largo, MD 1:00:38

Intro/Get Like You Used to Be
Station Man
Spare Me A Little
Rhiannon
Why
So Afraid
Oh Well
Green Manalishi
World Turning/Mick’s drum solo
Blue Letter
Hypnotized

Japan 12/05/77 Young Music Special 45:19

Oh Well
Rhiannon
Over My Head
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Blue Letter
The Chain
Songbird

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

I think it's cool that you and I got the dvds at the same time and posted something re: the "75 Stevie" almost simultaneously! I did mine on the Rumors link. Maybe I should have done it on here!

I should have a look! I never venture out of here and chitty chat because I don't have much to say about the other band members.

Although I loved Stevie's line in Rosebud where she says something like "Lindsey wears a kimono, I wear a Halloween costume, Christine looks like she's going to Catholic confirmation, Mick is going to a Renaissance fair, and John's going to the beach".

I thought it was hilarious.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Well if her only addiction was Cocaine and Klonopin she has been clean I presume.I'm not 100% sure how NA works so is having a shot of tequila or a glass of wine considered a relapse?I'm not certain what her weed habits are either but I'd guess she still imbibes.

Any use of any substances including weed and alcohol would not be considered clean and sober.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

I saw him live last year and he was amazing, so I'd have to disagree. Of courrse he's nowhere near where he used to be, but considering all the stress he's put his voice through, it's quite amazing that he can still sing well.

He was on The Late Late show a few weeks back and saing Going To California. He dodged most of the high notes and when he did hit them there was a lot of reverb. He sounded better than the last time I saw him. He looks really good too.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by AuDustWoman

Rick, what are you saying about Stevie'sperformance being !!! Let's see what kind of rocker you are at the age of 57!!! How dare you pass judgement like that, and you call yourself a fan? You should be thrilled that she is still out there Rockin' her heart out for us, her devoted and eternally grateful fans!!!

Rocking her heart out, my ass. I've seen geriatrics exert more energy by attempting to slide a bedpan beneath themselves.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by The Tower

There really isn't any singer out there that is really in Ann's league.

I think Cyndi Lauper is, but that's me. Not only is her voice as well-preserved and powerful as Ann's, she's a better singer now than she ever was before.