Brokeback Mountain Review and Response

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

actually, if you read the thread, Sparky and Markolas have had discussions regarding this before. so its not technically a topic that hasnt already been broached between them. Thus, for Sparky to say such a thing to Markolas even after they have already discussed it, is harsh to MY way of thinking. Again, Sparky took it the same way I did, which was more on a personal level (ie Markolas' preference).

as for why I care:
I guess its a little closer to home for me because I work with people who DO have agorophobia and anxiety disorders and its like pulling teeth for them to even come to my office to deal with their own cases!

I did read the entire thread. I don't know how I got caught up in this. I don't really care. Actually I was simply amused by your reaction. I think they're both amused by each other and trying to be clever with their banter. Whatever.

I had no idea you worked with people with anxiety and agorophobia. That must be quite challenging. Good for you.

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I just saw it .I think it will be a strong contender for best picture at the oscars and definately a nod and possibly a win for Heath with Ang Lee being more of a long shot but he will get a nomination I'd wager.I think the film more than lived up to it's hype, I have teared up in films before but never can I remember being frozen in my seat and gripping the arm chairs so hard my hands went numb.I don't think judging by the reactions of others around me that I was the only one that had such a visceral reaction.I'll stop now because I don't want to give away anything for those that have not seen the film .I just have to say I have seen many.many films in my life and never have I had a reaction to one quite like this.

It gave me the same reaction, but it usually happens to me watching Ang Lee's movies (the exception is Hulk, but I loved it too). He's able to bottle the emotions and to let them come out in an intoxicating way from the gestures, the glances, the landscapes, with his discreet but so intense direction, alla aspects perfectly reflected by Brokeback Mountain. He respects life in every aspect, people, and cinema; he doesn't feel the need to destroy to create, but observes and tells in his unique way, without fear. Great director indeed.

Romy

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Richard B

I did read the entire thread. I don't know how I got caught up in this. I don't really care. Actually I was simply amused by your reaction. I think they're both amused by each other and trying to be clever with their banter. Whatever.

I had no idea you worked with people with anxiety and agorophobia. That must be quite challenging. Good for you.

Its also rewarding. I have no regrets

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by markolas

Going to movies by yourself is just creepy.

I love it, it gives me the space to totally enjoy the experience without the sweet burden to be social.

Romy

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

Its also rewarding. I have no regrets

I was going to say rewarding as well...but wanted you to say it! That's how it should be. Much success to you.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Richard B

I was going to say rewarding as well...but wanted you to say it! That's how it should be. Much success to you.

awwww now I need a tissue! Im giving you a virtual hug, Sir

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

awwww now I need a tissue! Im giving you a virtual hug, Sir

Hug right back at ya!

Here you go, please help yourself....

[sparky]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

okayyy that was a bit harsh....on a couple of levels.
1) if markolas prefers to go to events with a partner, who are YOU to tell him thats goofy or bizarre? Some people are just old school and feel that that is how it is done. not everyone has embraced the credo of independence....but even if that isnt the issue,
2) its extremely cavalier of you to make light of what may or may not be a mental issue. We are what we are and we are also not cookie cutter people.

ok. flame away.

edit: I posted this before I saw your other comment, (which is a bit more compassionate--thank goodness) but it still doesnt negate the fact that you're being a bit hard on markolas IMO.......

You have a lot nerve telling me how I should or should not talk to people I consider friends. I am not particularly interested in what you think of how I talk to people with whom I have developed a rapport. Your arrogance is astonishing. In addition, I don't think Mark needs you to stand up for him.

Perhaps I shouldn't have conversations with people I am friends with in a public forum. I will, however, continue to do so, whether or not you feel some kind of duty to moderate my tone of voice or my manner of dealing with people. Just be aware that your opinions of me are of no consequence to me at all.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by sparky

You have a lot nerve telling me how I should or should not talk to people I consider friends. I am not particularly interested in what you think of how I talk to people with whom I have developed a rapport. Your arrogance is astonishing. In addition, I don't think Mark needs you to stand up for him.

Perhaps I shouldn't have conversations with people I am friends with in a public forum. I will, however, continue to do so, whether or not you feel some kind of duty to moderate my tone of voice or my manner of dealing with people. Just be aware that your opinions of me are of no consequence to me at all.

Well, my nerve equals your own. if you want to make a conversation public, then you have only yourself to blame if people call you on your "comments".
If you dont like it--tough ****. dont put it out there.

Ive already said Im not trying to be Mark's champion, only commenting on how your comments seemed to ME and by GAWD Ive got as much right to say your comments STINK as you have to make them. so THERE.

by the way, if my FRIEND told me I had an "unaddressed mental issue," I think I'd be looking for a new friend. NUFF SAID.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Lux

Actually I have anxiety and agorophobia and it is for that reason I'm one who prefers to see a film by myself. I wasn't offended but if you really want to look at it that way I could be offended at being creepy due to my mental condition. I prefer going by myself because should I need to suddenly flee, there's no angry friend to have to explain this to or fellow passenger I'm going to leave stranded, and just knowing I can go means I most likely won't need to. Anyway, I'm just being technical because you were, I wasn't offended.

Lux, you are smarter than this; Markolas was only saying it was "creepy" for him to go somewhere by himself, not that everyone who goes solo is creepy.
You know better. and Im sorry you have to deal with such a debilitating condition. I cant imagine what it must be like....so, even tho we argue, I hope you know that I do what I can for others in your same situation. Im not judging by any stretch.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by sparky

I can only shrug. All I can say is that I guess
you must not want to see movies very badly if
you would rather not see them than go alone.
It doesn't compute in my brain. But, it takes
all kinds to make the world go round.

Hmmm my view...

I don't go to the movies alone because well, you look, sorta...

alone and the one that 'everyone' stares at!

My ass is going to find someone to bring to the movies with me...I would like to think I have enough friends for that.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Hmmm my view...

I don't go to the movies alone because well, you look, sorta...

alone and the one that 'everyone' stares at!

My ass is going to find someone to bring to the movies with me...I would like to think I have enough friends for that.

there are all sorts of reasons why people do what they do, but for someone to pass judgement (on a public forum no less) is bad form....

[dissention]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

there are all sorts of reasons why people do what they do, but for someone to pass judgement (on a public forum no less) is bad form....

Didn't you recently pass judgement on others who use provocative language by stating that they were somehow less intelligent than those who abstained from employing such verbal offal? As for making light of people with "mental issues," I saw no one engaging in any such thing. Try to differentiate between jovial exchanges and aggressive ones. Though I'm more than happy to make light of people who suffer from Arachibutyrophobia. May they be cursed by Skippy for all of eternity.

In regards to the movie that seems to have yielded such stimulating conversation, I now want to see it even more than before after reading Sparks' glowing words about it. Hopefully it lives up to even a fraction of the hype and I'm tickled pink that you had such an awesome experience viewing it. It's rare that Hollywood can construct a movie that resonates on such a deep level.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

Well, my nerve equals your own. if you want to make a conversation public, then you have only yourself to blame if people call you on your "comments".
If you dont like it--tough ****. dont put it out there.

I'll put anything I want out there, like I always have. And uninvolved parties will or will be not feel the need to put themselves in the middle of it.

Ive already said Im not trying to be Mark's champion, only commenting on how your comments seemed to ME and by GAWD Ive got as much right to say your comments STINK as you have to make them. so THERE.

Like I said, your opinion of my comments is irrelevant to me.

by the way, if my FRIEND told me I had an "unaddressed mental issue," I think I'd be looking for a new friend. NUFF SAID.

My friends know when I am kidding or having fun and when I am serious. That would be why I talk to them. They are not such walking wounded that I have to edit my very thought process for fear of destroying them.

BTW, I am not going to be person number 50 who gets into a multi page fight with you over semantics or anything else. What is going on between myself and the people I choose to interact with is our business. Other's interpretations of what we say or do says little about us, but plenty about them. That's all I will be saying about this subject. Bickering with you doesn't interest me.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by sparky

I'll put anything I want out there, like I always have. And uninvolved parties will or will be not feel the need to put themselves in the middle of it.



Like I said, your opinion of my comments is irrelevant to me.



My friends know when I am kidding or having fun and when I am serious. That would be why I talk to them. They are not such walking wounded that I have to edit my very thought process for fear of destroying them.

BTW, I am not going to be person number 50 who gets into a multi page fight with you over semantics or anything else. What is going on between myself and the people I choose to interact with is our business. Other's interpretations of what we say or do says little about us, but plenty about them. That's all I will be saying about this subject. Bickering with you doesn't interest me.

You DO that Sparko Darko. I guess embarrassing your "friend" doesnt interest you either. You should give fair warning to all your friends: WARNING: Sparky's friends MUST also do double duty as doormats NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

by the way, I didnt just hack my way into a private conversation. you put it out there for all to see. if I were your "friend", I think I'd be re-evaluating my friendships.