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Old 06-05-2005, 07:45 AM
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Where are the pics of Joan Rivers, Mary Tyler Moore, Bruce Jenner, and Carol Burnett?

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Old 06-05-2005, 09:32 AM
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What the hell did Hunter Tylo do to herself She was absolutely stunning back when she was on B&B.

OMG - I didn't even recognize her! Scary!
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Old 06-05-2005, 09:37 AM
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Who cares about Stevie's face. I want to know what she uses on her hands to make them so soft.
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Old 06-05-2005, 09:41 AM
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Like Chris, I take it all with a grain of salt... but I do have to disagree with you that it's "obvious" she's had work done.

This is "obvious" work, in my opinion:




This is not "obvious" work:


Don't get me wrong... I'm not saying "Stevie couldn't possibly have had work done," just that, if she has, it's not at all what I would consider to be "obvious."
Puhleeeeeze. What you posted is obviously bad plastic surgery. And lots of it. Stevie's surgery is as obvious as the color of the sky is, but it's good plastic surgery. Just look at her ten years ago and then look at her today, girlfriend has had work done. But to admit that would somehow be an awful thing for some people. Not to me because I don't give a **** and she still looks like herself.
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:56 PM
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Where are the pics of Joan Rivers, Mary Tyler Moore, Bruce Jenner, and Carol Burnett?

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...and um... Christine McVie? (ducks under chair).
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Old 06-05-2005, 01:22 PM
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Stevie's surgery is as obvious as the color of the sky is, but it's good plastic surgery. Just look at her ten years ago and then look at her today, girlfriend has had work done. But to admit that would somehow be an awful thing for some people. Not to me because I don't give a **** and she still looks like herself.
I posted two candid photos of Stevie, with her head in similar positions and with a similar smile on her face. One from approx. 1976 and one from earlier this year.
Where do you see "obvious" work? Compare the two pics... her lips look the same (with her upper lip being slightly thinner these days), her upper eyelids are obviously droopier now, her nose dips down now (as noses do when we age), she has more pudginess under her cheekbones, and so on.

If it were truly "obvious," as you say, then I wouldn't argue the point. I love and adore Bonnie Tyler, but it's very obvious that she's had facelifts and a nose job and collagen implants.

Looking great at nearly 60 doesn't make it "obvious" that you've had work done. (I do think she finally had her neck done though, as evidenced by the Vegas and Philly pics. But I'm talking about her face.)

By the way, I'd like to point out that you insist Bette Midler hasn't had work done, because, A. Bette "says so," and B. You've "seen her up close."
Well, many fans who have seen Stevie up close have stated that she has not had work done to her face, and Stevie herself says she's never had a facelift or any kind of plastic surgery involving her face.
So... why the refusal to take her word for it?
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Old 06-05-2005, 01:27 PM
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I have been the same room as Bette and I though it was obvious she had work done - but that was just my opinion. As for Stevie, I think she had maybe lippo and maybe her eyes done, all before The Dance. I will say though that she may do botox, callogen, etc., but as for invasive surgical procedures on her face, I just do not see it. Maybe she had some of the new age laser stuff or a mini lift. I used to think she had an eye lift, but now am not so sure. Of couse, it goes without saying that any pic. in almost any mag. has been touched uo to some degree, but the one Brian posted seems mostly candid.

And, I agree with Diss and others, if she did, more power to her because she looks GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!

On edit - maybe her neck was well.
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Old 06-05-2005, 01:41 PM
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I have been the same room as Bette and I though it was obvious she had work done - but that was just my opinion.
Shhh... don't tell dissy that. If Bette or Debbie say something, it's most definitely true. If Stevie says it, it's most definitely false. It's dissy's "schtick."

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Of couse, it goes without saying that any pic. in almost any mag. has been touched uo to some degree, but the one Brian posted seems mostly candid.
Magazine photos are definitely airbrushed... which is why I posted a candid shot of her, uploaded to the AP Archives on the night of the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. It's also where I got the pics of Meg Ryan and a couple of the Swit and Tylo pics.
Unless you're looking at a promotional 8x10, the pics in the AP Archives are un-retouched and uploaded directly following the events... and, therefore, give you a far more accurate idea of how someone really looks, than a magazine layout or an album cover.
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Old 06-05-2005, 01:57 PM
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I have been the same room as Bette and I though it was obvious she had work done - but that was just my opinion. As for Stevie, I think she had maybe lippo and maybe her eyes done, all before The Dance. I will say though that she may do botox, callogen, etc., but as for invasive surgical procedures on her face, I just do not see it. Maybe she had some of the new age laser stuff or a mini lift. I used to think she had an eye lift, but now am not so sure. Of couse, it goes without saying that any pic. in almost any mag. has been touched uo to some degree, but the one Brian posted seems mostly candid.

And, I agree with Diss and others, if she did, more power to her because she looks GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!

On edit - maybe her neck was well.
Yeah, I remember seeing Bette one year, on TV, then saw her the next and she was waaaay younger.
I don't think Stevie had lipo, but i think she had some face stuff. I don't think anything invasive (maybe one lift?) either, though. Her nose does seem slimmer and less upturned, though - you know, less nostrilly? I, like you, don't give a rat's ass. Oh, and her upper mouth during Destiny Rules doc did seem especially, uh, immobile...
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:08 PM
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By the way, I'd like to point out that you insist Bette Midler hasn't had work done, because, A. Bette "says so," and B. You've "seen her up close."
Well, many fans who have seen Stevie up close have stated that she has not had work done to her face, and Stevie herself says she's never had a facelift or any kind of plastic surgery involving her face.
So... why the refusal to take her word for it?
Facelifts do drop, love. Why do I refuse to take Stevie's word for it? I don't know, go look at pictures of her from over the years and then look at her now. Makeup is a great thing, but it isn't that great.

I still don't think Bette has had work done. From seeing her in person and looking at candids, the most I think she's had done is botox and non-surgical facelifts (which Stevie might also get, who knows). Bette's still got a chicken neck, liver spots, and lots of wrinkles, babe.
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:11 PM
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Shhh... don't tell dissy that. If Bette or Debbie say something, it's most definitely true. If Stevie says it, it's most definitely false. It's dissy's "schtick."
At least Miss Debbie doesn't deny the fact that she's had work done. Same can't be said for Nicks.
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:18 PM
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At least Miss Debbie doesn't deny the fact that she's had work done. Same can't be said for Nicks.

Well, not really. She admitted to having the boob job and then having them taken out. No one has ever asked her "Hey Stevie, have ya had any plastic surgery" - nor should they really. So, that DH chose to tell about hers does not make La Nicks any less of a person. I mean that is a private thing and La Nicks already revealed she had had work done But say that Stevie in some way has denied having work done, which is what you said above, is incorrect

On edit - a few years ago La Nicks did say she would not have any more work done after the boob debacle - but she could have changed her mind - that's a woman's right they say
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Well, not really. She admitted to having the boob job and then having them taken out. No one has ever asked her "Hey Stevie, have ya had any plastic surgery" - nor should they really. So, that DH chose to tell about hers does not make La Nicks any less of a person. I mean that is a private thing and La Nicks already revealed she had had work done But say that Stevie in some way has denied having work done, which is what you said above, is incorrect

On edit - a few years ago La Nicks did say she would not have any more work done after the boob debacle - but she could have changed her mind - that's a woman's right they say
"Even in the worst of times, I kind of think I tried to take care of myself. I've never had a facelift," says Nicks in a recent interview during a press-tour stop in Toronto to promote her latest solo album, Trouble in Shangri-La.

Nicks, dressed in form-fitting shiny blue pants, a long black shirt and open-toed black sandals, her signature straight blond hair resting on her chest, says she would consider having cosmetic surgery around her neck, but not on her face.

"The idea of really changing my face, I don't want to do that," she says. "I don't want to look like another person. All of those other people who have plastic surgery don't look the way they look."


She pretty much denies having had "plastic surgery" or a "facelift" to me.
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