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Old 04-19-2005, 10:43 AM
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No, the law allowed him to request the recounts individually in each county. Yet, he chose only the four where he thought he had a better chance - wonder why

Hey wait a minute - didn't I just say I was not getting into this again
It allows for that now. It did not allow for that in 2000.
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:45 AM
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It's a regressive tax. From what I've read and that is not that much, I am not impressed with it and feel that it would benenfit the wealthy and hit working families too hard.

They are paying probably more than that now I suggest the average person with an average mortagage with average other deductions pays probably somewhere between 20 and 30% - Thus, they would benefit with a 15% flat tax
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:52 AM
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It allows for that now. It did not allow for that in 2000.
Of course it did as I cited the law in the link you posted - no where was he legally limited to the four counties most favorable to him. I mean if he could not ask individually to each county for a recount due to perceived error, etc., then how did he do it in four? But, think I think we are talking about two different things here. I am talking only about why Gore requested the initial recount due to error, etc., in the four counties most favorable to him. Clearly there were problems all over Florida and he knew that - I certainly did and I am just an ordinary citizen who watches the news. Yet, Gore could not be bothered to look at counties unfavorable to him. I think that was wrong. If he was so concerned about voter fraud, then why make it partisan. He, via his spokespeople, could have individually asked for a recount in every county just as they did in the four they individually petitioned. He did not do this. Instead, he chose only the four most favorable to him and I think that is wrong. I mean do you really think if he had thought he might gain votes in some county other than the four he listed, he would not have claimed error in that fifth county. Of course he would have.

I fully admit that later Gore suggested a statewide recount, which was real big of him then. But, his initial actions were self serving and wrong from a fairness point of view.
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They are paying probably more than that now I suggest the average person with an average mortagage with average other deductions pays probably somewhere between 20 and 30% - Thus, they would benefit with a 15% flat tax
My figues were too high on average. Here is a pretty cool article http://www.cbpp.org/311tax.htm - but even with these figures - 15% is still less or equal for middle America

Note - thisw study is from 1998 and the rates have changed. But, it is still good for a comparison and I still think most Americans would have more money under a flat tax because they have to give away money to get the deductions to get down to 15% and that is not a straight deduction of 100% paid, it is a percentage of what is paid. Under a flat tax, they keep this money and get the same effect.
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