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Old 01-29-2005, 10:56 PM
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What solo album? It wasn't finished.
The GOS album that was never released, but Come Murrow and Red Rover were all lifted directly off that unreleased album. They weren't changed a bit.
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Old 01-29-2005, 10:58 PM
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The GOS album that was never released, but Come Murrow and Red Rover were all lifted directly off that unreleased album. They weren't changed a bit.

I don't see it as an album.....just a bunch of demos and studio outtakes. Bunch them together, and you got a bootleg.
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Old 01-29-2005, 11:03 PM
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I don't see it as an album.....just a bunch of demos and studio outtakes. Bunch them together, and you got a bootleg.
But the POINT is they are Lindsey Buckingham solo songs.
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Old 01-29-2005, 11:09 PM
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But the POINT is they are Lindsey Buckingham solo songs.

They made it to a FM record first.
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Old 01-29-2005, 11:33 PM
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I haven't heard any of Lindsey's solo work apart from the girft of screws demos, and if they are an indication of his solo work, I love it, I don't the albums are in print anyway are they? I have Bella Donna, The Wild Heart, TimeSpace and Trouble In Shangri-La of Stevies solo work, and I LOVE them all I am a huge Stevie solo fan.

I have In The Meantime of Chris's and I also LOVE that, but I have not heard any of Chris' first solo work.

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Old 01-29-2005, 11:40 PM
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They made it to a FM record first.
Even though only one member of Fleetwood Mac is on the goddamned tracks.
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Old 01-30-2005, 01:40 AM
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Even though only one member of Fleetwood Mac is on the goddamned tracks.
I thought that Stevie was on Murrow and Red Rover but refused to be on Come because she thought it was too sexual

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Old 01-30-2005, 08:43 AM
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No, Stevie is not on the album version of Murrow, Red Rover or Come. (I do like her on Red Rover live and think she might have added to the studio version but alas, that is not the point)
Is that true that Mick and or John are not on the Murrow, Red Rover or Come on SYW?? If so that is pretty interesting.

Also, I believe Becky's point was that she had not heard any of Lindsey's released solo work..she has heard nothing from Go Insane, Law and Order or Out of the Cradle. Becky..you should buy Out of the Cradle! You might really like it, I know I do and I am a Chiffon Head. ; > ) If you like the GoS demos like Down on Rodeo, Twist of Fate, Say Goodbye you should like Out of the Cradle. I am not a fan of his wild, extremely weird stuff and OOTC is not like that at all. It is a masterpiece in my opinion.
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Old 01-30-2005, 11:57 AM
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No, Stevie is not on the album version of Murrow, Red Rover or Come. (I do like her on Red Rover live and think she might have added to the studio version but alas, that is not the point)
Is that true that Mick and or John are not on the Murrow, Red Rover or Come on SYW?? If so that is pretty interesting.

Also, I believe Becky's point was that she had not heard any of Lindsey's released solo work..she has heard nothing from Go Insane, Law and Order or Out of the Cradle. Becky..you should buy Out of the Cradle! You might really like it, I know I do and I am a Chiffon Head. ; > ) If you like the GoS demos like Down on Rodeo, Twist of Fate, Say Goodbye you should like Out of the Cradle. I am not a fan of his wild, extremely weird stuff and OOTC is not like that at all. It is a masterpiece in my opinion.
Yes maybe I should give it a try. I just got a Lindsey bootleg from someone...The Coachhouse S. CA 1994? I'm not sure of the date. I haven't listened to it yet, but maybe that can be my introduction to Lindsey solo And I do like Go Insane, so maybe there's hope for me yet!
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Old 01-30-2005, 01:13 PM
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I thought that Stevie was on Murrow and Red Rover
If she is, she was glopped on in the eleventh hour as a way to Fleetwood Mac-ize two solo tracks -- essentially the same method used on "Steal Your Heart Away" & "Miranda." Mick & John were already part of those tracks from earlier years.

"Murrow," "Red Rover," "Steal Your Heart Away," "Miranda," "Come" & some of the others were definitely finished as far as Lindsey was concerned when they were submitted to his record bosses -- those aren't demos, they're completed tracks. And they were just ported over to the Fleetwood Mac project virtually intact. I think Lindsey himself even admitted as much in some print interview.

I agree with the ledgies who say that "Say You Will" sounds like a couple of different projects. It certainly sounds that way to me: I can hear not just different styles & production approaches, but different eras in it. It's a real mish-mash to my ears. I'd use Noel Coppage's words from his review of "Tusk" to describe "Say You Will": a "fascinating parade of sounds" (although some of it isn't all that fascinating to me, either).

Some fans are saying that they're hoping for a new Fleetwood album because they want to hear the four members build an album from the ground up, together. But where's the guarantee that it would play out that way? Stevie's gearing up for more solo careering, as apparently is Lindsey. I see the "Say You Will" situation playing out once again in almost exactly the same way if there's going to be another Fleetwood Mac album. Plus, even if Stevie had an entire year or more to devote to a Fleetwood Mac project (like in the old days), I hope nobody honestly believes that woman would hang out with the other guys in a studio for that long, because there's no way in hell she would.

Taking an educated guess here: I bet Stevie hasn't spent three consecutive months with Fleetwood Mac in a studio since the Village Recorder days in 1978. And three months (a time frame I pick at random) is only about 15 percent of the time they take to complete a project.
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Ok, I was answering the threads about songs I dislike and then I realize (well I always knew) that I don't like solo albums

I do like some Chris, Lindsey or Stevie singles. Specially Stevie's but maybe because she had more solo albums.. And I have all Lindsey solo albums and some Chris (1) and Stevie (1 plus Enchanted and Timespace).. but... I'm not crazy about them.

So I don't like their albums. Not as I adore Fleetwood Mac albums. In fact I wasn't excited about buying last Chris album. I thought about it, but at the end I didn't.

Now, of all solo albums I have, what I like most? Out of the craddle, and the one I dislike most? Go Insane.
So I consider myself not a solos fan.
I'm a Christine McVie fanatic so...I have all of Christines solo albums (including Legendary Christine Perfect).

I do enjoy most of Stevie's stuff...I have BD, Trouble In Shangri La, and the Enchanted Box Set.

I only have one of Lindsey's "Law and Order"...and I do enjoy most of the songs on it!

But I love Christine's stuff the best!
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I was a Fleetwood Mac Fan first, because I heard them together before they ever had solo carrers. But after listening to them, and of course, growing up in the 80s, I became very aware of their solo careers and projects. I was very much a fan of Stevie, Lindsey, and Christine's solo projects, especially Stevie and Lindsey's. I think it is a natural progression to be a fan of the band's music together, and after learning all about that, becoming curious about their work without the band. Then once you start checking into their solo projects, you see how they are each, seperately, a vitally important piece of Fleetwood Mac. As Bryan stated, I don't see how you could love the band and not love at least some of their solo work. Maybe, the non-solo people should give their solo work another spin and see it as an extention of Fleetwood Mac; just a small piece of the big "Mac" puzzle. Just a thought.
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Even though only one member of Fleetwood Mac is on the goddamned tracks.
Dissy, it sounds like even YOU are buying into the notion that Lindsey and Stevie are "Fleetwood Mac"!

Has everyone forgotten that Mick and John... *ahem*the founding members of the band*ahem*... are also playing on "Murrow" and "Come"?

Even if Stevie isn't singing on them, the tracks still feature two more band members than some of Lindsey's 'Tusk' songs had, and no one argues that those aren't "Fleetwood Mac" songs!

I guess the thing that confuses me is that Fleetwood Mac's albums have been recorded haphazardly since 1979, sometimes with various members adding to the tracks after they were recorded "solo" (again, some of Lindsey's 'Tusk' tracks), or not appearing on them at all (Lindsey noted that some of the 'Tango' tracks feature a drum machine as opposed to Mick, for example)... so why the fuss now?

Had Lindsey's intended solo tracks been folded into a studio album by the entire band in 1997, would there have been as much fuss, given that Mick, John and Christine were already on them anyway?
If not, then why now?
Or is the complaint just the amount of years that went by between the recording of Lindsey's tracks and then the recording of Stevie's?
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