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dissention · #**376** 06-29-2004, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bella Figura

I thought captive sermons died with the Puritans...

Tell that to Dumbya next time he gets on his soapbox to preach his hatred against gays.

Bella Figura · #**377** 06-29-2004, 01:01 PM

yes, and the Passion came out several months ago and CMT (and don't ask me why??) did a whole show on it this weekend...

gldstwmn · #**378** 06-29-2004, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bella Figura

they will, it's only Tuesday...

. and perhaps some mainstream or liberal media will take up this issue and do the same. After all, this infotainment is starting to get on my nerves, first Mel now Mike...does anyone really need to be preached too??? I thought captive sermons died with the Puritans...

The New York Times and many other already have done this. I've posted some of their commentary in other threads which you can easily find by using the search function. They, as members of the press saw the film weeks ago. There is no "there" there.

Bella Figura · #**379** 06-29-2004, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Tell that to Dumbya next time he gets on his soapbox to preach his hatred against gays.

would that I really could...this goes back to my previous post about human beings inability to effect large-scale change

dissention · #**380** 06-29-2004, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bella Figura

yes, and the Passion came out several months ago and CMT (and don't ask me why??) did a whole show on it this weekend...

And that was a factually inaccurate movie. He used the ramblings of that anti-semite Ann Emerich for his film.

dissention · #**381** 06-29-2004, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

The New York Times and many other already have done this. I've posted some of their commentary in other threads which you can easily find by using the search function. They, as members of the press saw the film weeks ago. There is no "there" there.

Exactly. All they've been able to come up with is that Moore claims Saudi's and bin Laden's were allowed to leave while commercial airspace was closed, but that's a lie, he never said that in the film. He said the flights occurred after September 13th and then showed the flight lists on the screen.

gldstwmn · #**382** 06-29-2004, 01:08 PM

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You said Kerry said he'd go over to the Middle East and apologize to the terrorists. Those were your words, not hers. No one is twisting them.

"He even stated he'd apologize to the terrorists if and when he took office!"

Bella Figura · #**383** 06-29-2004, 01:08 PM

yes, but he used my entertainment time and dollars to preach to me...and the whole "don't watch it arguement" does not work if you want to be up on current events and the changes they are weaving into our lives. so I personally felt the same way viewing MM 's film as I did during the Passion.
I was getting preached to again so whether he has been more accurate with the facts is kind of irrelevant to me. People are using entertainment to pursue their agenda's because that's where the peoples is...and we needs the peoples to effect mass changes because as an individual, we can not do it ourselves.

ads in bathrooms stalls piss me off in the same way....

gldstwmn · #**384** 06-29-2004, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bella Figura

yes, and the Passion came out several months ago and CMT (and don't ask me why??) did a whole show on it this weekend...

That's not a valid comparison. You're talking about an interpretation of the bible.

gldstwmn · #**385** 06-29-2004, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Exactly. All they've been able to come up with is that Moore claims Saudi's and bin Laden's were allowed to leave while commercial airspace was closed, but that's a lie, he never said that in the film. He said the flights occurred after September 13th and then showed the flight lists on the screen.

Saudi's did fly during the ban and I've posted the link to that info twice but Moore doesn't say that in the film.

gldstwmn · #**386** 06-29-2004, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bella Figura

would that I really could...this goes back to my previous post about human beings inability to effect large-scale change

Oh Carne? Where are you?

Bella Figura · #**387** 06-29-2004, 01:15 PM

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Oh Carne? Where are you?

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he's online getting his tickets for Camden

dissention · #**388** 06-29-2004, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Saudi's did fly during the ban and I've posted the link to that info twice but Moore doesn't say that in the film.

From the Snopes site, right? I read about a month ago.

There are Saudi flights that are unaccounted for that may have left before the ban was lifted.

gldstwmn · #**389** 06-29-2004, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bella Figura

yes, but he used my entertainment time and dollars to preach to me...and the whole "don't watch it arguement" does not work if you want to be up on current events

Well, the film is available for download on the internet for free...

Bella Figura · #**390** 06-29-2004, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

That's not a valid comparison. You're talking about an interpretation of the bible.

yes, Mel's film is much more extreme but both films are packaged as entertainment and are really just sermons in disguise...and that's where my personal agnst comes from, not who's telling the truth here but why are you bothering me with your agenda to begin with...and just to reiterate, the "just don't watch it" arguement does not apply here due to the fact MM's film is current events not to mention political in nature and I try to keep up with current events...so I used my precious weekend time to view this movie.