liberals....

[Bella Figura]

Originally Posted by dissention

the film contains nothing but factual footage and documents. There's not a single lie or half-truth in the film.

I doubt MM would make this statement himself, because he would set himself up to be crucified by Rush, Sean, Ann and Fox. and though each of them are masters of spin, it is their making the big bucks job to point out the films inaccuracies if they exist, after all, it is a political film so it fall in their realm of commentary news. I only saw the film once and I don't have the transcript so I would never presume to know and point out any inaccuracies but human nature being what it is, I do not doubt there is at least one "lie" in the entire film...when it comes out on DVD, then perhaps I may be motivated to do this research but then again, why do something for free that others are paid good money to do...

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Kerry said at the beginning of his campaign that when and if he took office, within the first six months he would personally go to the Middle East apologize to those people for what Bush has done. .

You just called the entire Middle East terrorists. Is every Muslim and/or Jew a terrorist to you? Or are you just following the president's lead with the "Brown people."
What's wrong with apologizing to the people of Iraq? We invaded their country illegally.

[mylittledemon]

Bull****. If you're opposed to one then you propose the other. He's against Bush, so he supports Kerry. His whole schickt is to get Bush out! Of course he supports Kerry. He has to in order "see his will" done. Give me a break.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Bull****. If you're opposed to one then you propose the other. He's against Bush, so he supports Kerry. His whole schickt is to get Bush out! Of course he supports Kerry. He has to in order "see his will" done. Give me a break.

Prove it. He doesn't support Kerry. You are either grossly misinformed or you are just lying.

[mylittledemon]

Um, no. I said Kerry said he would go to the Middle East and apologize to those people for what Bush has done. I never said everyone in the Middle East were terrorists. Read a little more carefully and stop trying to mince and twist people's words; its unbecoming.

[mylittledemon]

YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. Bush or Kerry are going to win the presidency. SO...if you are against BUSH, then by default you have to be FOR the other candidate. It's that simple. Getting Bush out of office means that he is FOR Kerry. DURRRRRRR!

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Um, no. I said Kerry said he would go to the Middle East and apologize to those people for what Bush has done. I never said everyone in the Middle East were terrorists. Read a little more carefully and stop trying to mince and twist people's words; its unbecoming.

In case you haven't already noticed, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU THINK OF ME.
Stick to the facts. I asked you a question. Are you capable of answering it?

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. Bush or Kerry are going to win the presidency. SO...if you are against BUSH, then by default you have to be FOR the other candidate. It's that simple. Getting Bush out of office means that he is FOR Kerry. DURRRRRRR!

Your opinion has no basis in fact. Try again, this time supporting it with a direct statement from Mr. Moore stating he is supporting John Kerry. You cannot because he does not.

BTW, here is a list of presidential candidates for the upcoming election:

All Candidate(s) for President



Name Party Status NPAT
James Alexander-Pace Democrat Running No
Sterling David Allan Providential Running 2004
Gordon Lee Anderson Unknown Running 2004
Blake Ashby Republican Running 2004
Warren Roderick Ashe Democrat Running 2004
Donald Paul Award Democrat Running 2004
Michael J. Badnarik Libertarian Running 2004
George H. Ballard Democrat Running 2000
Dianne Barker Democrat Running No
Katherine Bateman Democrat Running No
Michael W. 'Mike' Bay National Barking Spider Resurgence Running 2004
Sanderson Beck Democrat Running No
Jerry Garth Beck Democrat Running 2004
William Hobert Blakley Democrat Running 2004
James K. 'Jim' Bollinger Democrat Running 2004
Richard P. Bosa Republican Running 2004
Jacques Yves 'Chief Jack' Boulerice Native American Running 2004
J. Boydston Independent Running No
Keith Brand Democrat Running No
Harry William Braun Independent Running 2004
Dewey R. Broughman Democrat Running 2004
Walter F. 'Walt' Brown Socialist Running 2004
Angelo Scott Brown Democrat Running 2004
John Buchanan Republican Running 2004
Larry Joe Buffington Democrat Running No
Edie Bukewihge Republican Running No
George W. Bush Republican Running No
Calvin Otis Butts Republican Running No
Michael A. Callis Republican Running 2004
Raymond Joseph Caplette Democrat Running No
Jerry Leon Carroll Independent Running No
Willie F. Carter Democrat Running 2004
Charles Caston Unknown Running No
Patrick Cazneau Democrat Running 2004
Jeanne Chebib Democrat Running 2004
David Keith Cobb Green Party Running 2004
Kenneth R. Crippen Write-In Running 2004
Randolph 'Randy' Wilson Crow Democrat Running 2004
HRM Caesar St Augustine De Buonaparte No Party Affiliation Running 2004
James Louis 'Watchman' Dezort Independent Running 2004
Earl F. Dodge Prohibition Running 2004
Gerry Dokka Democrat Running No
Ernest Lee Easton Veteran's Industrial Running No
Myron "Mike" Edwards No Party Affiliation Running No
Max Englerius American Tradition Running 2004
Lowell Jackson 'Jack' Fellure Republican Running No
Christopher G. Fenner Independent Running 2004
Susan C. Fey Democrat Running 2004
Barry Wynne Finkelstein Democrat Running No
Marsha Aileen Lannon Foutch Democrat Running No
Ronald E. 'John Galt, Jr' Gascon Write-In Running 2004
Hoover Mark Gee Independent Running 2004
Bruce Allen Gidner Republican Running 2004
Mildred Williams Glover Democrat Running 2004
George Gostigian Republican Running No
Robert William Gottier No Party Affiliation Running No
Hosanna Jesse Oliver Gray Democrat Running No
Jackson Kirk Grimes United Fascist Union Running 2004
Max Hacker Independent Running No
Robert Edward Haines Republican Running No
William A. 'Bill' Hall Independent Running 2004
Michael J. Halpin Write-In Running 2004
Albert 'Al' Hamburg Independent Running 2004
Vincent S. Hamm Democrat Running 2004
Cecilia Margaret Harding Democrat Running 2004
Mark 'Dick' Harnes Republican Running 2004
Clay Oliver Hill Independent Running 2004
Samuel B. Hoff Independent Running 2004
Georgia L. Hough Write-In Running 2004
Mildred T. 'Millie' Howard Republican Running 2004
Darrel Reece Hunter Democrat Running 2004
Michael Idrogo Independent Running No
Arthur H. Jackson Democrat Running No
Derrick C. Johnson Republican Running No
Alfonzo Jones Democrat Running No
Keith Russell Judd Write-In Running 2004
Timothy Charles 'Tim' Kalemkarian Republican Running No
Darren Eugene Karr Party X - Independent Running 2004
Andrew J. Kensington United States Justice Party Americale Running 2004
John Forbes Kerry Democrat Running No
Caroline Pettinato Killeen Democrat Running 2004
Mike Kleiner Independent Running 2004
Matthew Jon Klemmensen Independent Running 2004
Dennis J. Kucinich Democrat Running 2004
Temperance Alesha Lance-Council Anti-Hypocrisy Running 2004
Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche Democrat Running 2004
Tom Laughlin Republican Running No
Robert Lee Independent Running 2004
R. Randy Lee Democrat Running No
Robert H. Linnell Democrat Running 2004
Rick R. Lovelien No Party Affiliation Running 2004
John E. Maffi Independent Running No
Yehanna Joan Mary Malone Republican Running 2004
Joseph Martyniuk Independent Running No
Isabell Masters Republican Running 2004
William H.T. McGaughey Democrat Running 2004
Andrew George Merritt Independent Running 2004
Kenneth Oliver Miller No Party Affiliation Running 2004
Michael Tracy Miller Republican Running 2004
Grady Dean Mollenhour Democrat Running 2004
David John Morascini Human Being Running No
Robert Len Morris No Party Affiliation Running 2004
Leon Motor Independent Running No
Muadin E-Democratic Party Running No
Ralph Nader Independent Running No
George C. Nelson United Veterans Rights Running No
Sandra Queen Noble Democrat Running No
John Henry Nuerenberg Democrat Running 2004
Cornelius E. O'Connor Republican Running No
Edward Thomas O'Donnell Democrat Running 2004
Frederick Eugene Ogin Republican Running No
Joseph W. Organist Independent Running 2004
Fern Penna Democrat Running 2004
Michael A. Peroutka Constitution Running 2004
Charles Anton Phillips Independent Running 2004
Kevin Sean Polk Independent Running 2004
Samuel Lyndell Powell Independent Running No
James John Prattas Democrat Running 2004
Melanie G. Pridgen Unknown Running 2004
Raymond J. Raczkowski Democrat Running No
Diana Ramsey-Rasmussen-Kennedy Fair Representation Running 2004
Reality Write-In Running No
Don Reaux Republican Running 2004
Thomas K. 'Major Tom' Reed 21st Century Prohibition Running 2004
James Christopher Reed Democrat Running No
Arthur Joseph Regan Write-In Running 2004
John Donald Rigazio Republican Running No
Ray 'Buttercup' Rollinson Democrat Running 2004
Russell A. Romagna Unknown Running No
Andrew Mark Rotramel Independent Running No
Klayton Chadwick Rutherford Independent Running No
George Louis Rutten Independent Running 2004
Cyril E. Sagan Democrat Running No
Donald Sauter No Party Affiliation Running 2004
'Ole' Savior Democrat Running 2004
Joseph Charles Schriner Independent Running 2004
Steven Wayne Schrom Independent Running No
Larry J. Schuetter Turtle Running 2004
Craig Eric Sharp Democrat Running 2004
Alfred 'Al' Sharpton Democrat Running 2004
Freddy Irwin 'Messiah' Sitnick Independent Running No
Daniel L. Snow Write-In Running 2004
Brian Baker Springfield Menorah-Thor Running 2004
Michael Ross Tunick Strauss Mike's Party Running No
Vermin Love Supreme Misinformed Citizens of America Running No
Randy Wayne Sutherland United Christian Running 2004
Leonard Dennis Talbow Democrat Running No
Jim Taylor Democrat Running No
Diane Beall Templin American Running 2004
Pres. L. A. Tompkins Independent, Democrat Running 2004
Joe Turner Republican Running No
Tony G. Van Pelt Unknown Running 2004
Charles 'Jock F. Kennedy' Vick Independent Running 2004
Da Vid Write-In Running 2004
Evelyn Louise Vitullo Democrat Running 2004
Florence Walker Democrat Running No
Hugh Wallace American Independence Running 2004
Ted C. Weill Reform Running 2004
Helen McMullen Williams Democrat Running 2004
Timothy Rexford Wilson Independent Running No
Robert B. Winn Independent Running 2004
Thomas Francis Winterbottom Democrat Running 2004
Michael T. Witort Health Running 2004
Lucian Jacob Wojciechowski Democrat Running 2004
William James 'Bill' Wyatt Republican Running 2004
Thomas F. 'Tom' Zych Democrat Running 2004
Hillary Rodham Clinton Democrat Potential Candidate No

[dissention]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

I'm sorry you believe that Michael Moore's movie is 100% truth. There's nothing in this world that is 100% truth. You literally sound like you've been brainwashed. (Maybe you're Michael Moore himself!!) haha... Oh well...its good that we all have our own opinions. That's what makes the world go around. Otherwise we'd all be ****ing sheep.

I see you still ahve not been able to point out one lie or half-truth in Moore's film. Really, how do you expect to have any credibility when discussing the film? You sound just as brainwashed by the neocons, only you don't have any facts or the like to back up what you say.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

The liberals in this country like pointing out imperfections of the presidency so they can have their way. And a liberals point of view and their mindsets are in the minority. It's a scary thing.

And the conservatives don't do the same?

What in the hell did you hear or read when Clinton was being impeached? It was all atack-attack-attack formt he right. They couldn't prove Whitewater, so they went after his sex life. Fortunately, the American people didn't care and he left office with a higher approval rating than Reagan.

And where's the link to Kerry saying he'd apologize?

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Bella Figura

I doubt MM would make this statement himself, because he would set himself up to be crucified by Rush, Sean, Ann and Fox. and though each of them are masters of spin, it is their making the big bucks job to point out the films inaccuracies if they exist, after all, it is a political film so it fall in their realm of commentary news. I only saw the film once and I don't have the transcript so I would never presume to know and point out any inaccuracies but human nature being what it is, I do not doubt there is at least one "lie" in the entire film...when it comes out on DVD, then perhaps I may be motivated to do this research but then again, why do something for free that others are paid good money to do...

If the conservative media and pundits (the same you pointed out) have still not been able to find a lie in his film, I doubt you'll be able to.

[Bella Figura]

they will, it's only Tuesday... . and perhaps some mainstream or liberal media will take up this issue and do the same. After all, this infotainment is starting to get on my nerves, first Mel now Mike...does anyone really need to be preached too??? I thought captive sermons died with the Puritans...

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

You just called the entire Middle East terrorists. Is every Muslim and/or Jew a terrorist to you? Or are you just following the president's lead with the "Brown people."
What's wrong with apologizing to the people of Iraq? We invaded their country illegally.

He probably thinks Afghanistan is in the Middle East, too.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Um, no. I said Kerry said he would go to the Middle East and apologize to those people for what Bush has done. I never said everyone in the Middle East were terrorists. Read a little more carefully and stop trying to mince and twist people's words; its unbecoming.

You said Kerry said he'd go over to the Middle East and apologize to the terrorists. Those were your words, not hers. No one is twisting them.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Bella Figura

they will, it's only Tuesday... . and perhaps some mainstream or liberal media will take up this issue and do the same. After all, this infotainment is starting to get on my nerves, first Mel now Mike...does anyone really need to be preached too??? I thought captive sermons died with the Puritans...

They all got to see the film weeks ago, O'Reilly even walked out in the middle of it, so you can't take his word for anything. They still have not found anything as of today.