What are your unpopular Stevie opinions

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by Moony

No need to get personal.

I'm referring to her "they're all my children" type comments regarding women in music and how she paved the way for them. Perhaps I'm reading too much into it.

UM..Stevie has paved the way and inspired many artists over the years. She only refers to her songs as "her children"..which is certainly understandable! If an interviewer asks her opinion on these chicks who give her credit for her influence..then she can say whatever she wants to.

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by SapphireSister

Oh trust me, I'm all for protecting Stevie but I'm just saying from what I gather people are saying who have met or interracted with her she's a bitchy person in general and there's a difference between that and doing your job. And it's a body guard's job to protect her from crazed fans in public, not the assistant's.

As far as judging Karen I don't think either you nor I or anybody should really be doing it since we don't know her personally nor have we interracted with her (unless you have and I don't know about it).

I agree..it is a very tough job that she has and we are not in her reeboks!!!

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

HERE'S another opinion that may be kind of "unpopular." - Stevie and Lindsey have sort of "reversed roles" at this point in their history. In other words, Stevie used to be "ethereal," "magical," "loopy," etc., talked about there being a "Presence" on stage with her during "Rhiannon," and so on, while Lindsey was the "Practical" one who got the job done yesterday, did it again today twice as good, had his hand on the pulse of American pop culture AND art and could combine the two to make one of the biggest-selling albums of all time, had the foresight to realize that "Tusk" was a survival move for the band over the long-term, etc. Now Stevie's the practical one ( think, "THEY'RE NOT SITTING AROUND ON THE FLOOR SMOKING DOPE! They're DEALING WITH DELINQUINT CHILDREN, FIGURING OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PAY THE MORTGAGE... [etc.]" While Lindsey is off in outer space talking about double-albums and releasing solo albums under a major label after a 6-year absence from the business.... So they've literally done a 180 around each other and switched roles, which seems kinda "classic," ya think???

OMG!!! Her "THEY'RE NOT SITTING AROUND ON FLOOR SMOKING DOPE AND WONDERING WHAT'S #1 ON BILLBOARD" speech is HYSTERICAL!!!
It is CLASSIC STEVIE!!!!

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

Based on whose standards?

Oh, and to the poster who said that they think Stevie has a learning disorder: Stevie didn't have enough of one not to get into college and tough it out a few semesters, so I'd say if she does in fact have a learning disorder it is negligible. .

Please don't misunderstand what I was saying there. I took some classes once at a Medical School and some of the extremely gifted, incredibly intelligent, future Medical Doctors who were Medical Students there - and who had G.P.A.'s in college - while taking hard science courses - of between 3.7 and 4.0 - have learning disorders. It's perfectly possible for someone to be highly intelligent - or even a genius - like Stevie - and still have a learning disorder. I would bet that she has an I.Q. of somewhere around 150 or higher. And, she has a learning disorder. Of course, I'm only guessing, but "I calls it as I sees it."

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by David

People have all sorts of fantasies! Luckily, most of them aren't dangerous.

I personally think she has a VERY high I.Q. I've read that the average succesful rock star ( think Steve Perry, Bruce Springstein, Lindsey Buckinham, Jon Bon Jovi ) has an I.Q. of at least 150. I think that sounds about right - my best guess, like I said above, is that Stevie's I.Q. is about 150 or so.

By the way, Mick Fleetwood DOES, for sure, have a diagnosed learning disorder - I believe it's dyslexia, I seem to remember he said that flat-out in his book. And he's also, obviously, highly intelligent.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

I personally think she has a VERY high I.Q. I've read that the average succesful rock star ( think Steve Perry, Bruce Springstein, Lindsey Buckinham, Jon Bon Jovi ) has an I.Q. of at least 150. I think that sounds about right - my best guess, like I said above, is that Stevie's I.Q. is about 150 or so.

By the way, Mick Fleetwood DOES, for sure, have a diagnosed learning disorder - I believe it's dyslexia, I seem to remember he said that flat-out in his book. And he's also, obviously, highly intelligent.

I agree, although I don't believe the actual number is 150. But I think she is smart and has a bit of genius under her belt, for sure.

[The Catdancer]

Originally Posted by StevieRox2

No, Karen is not nice to Stevie fans, is pretty much a bitch!

Really??? I don't know Karen from Adams but you make her sound like Rebecca Alvarez who was her personal assistant in the 80's although she was very nice to me. Anyway, thanks for clearing that up. Just wondering....

[The Catdancer]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Don't forget there's been lots of psychos after Stevie over the years; we know of at least three, one of whom wanted to "kidnap her and have her cure his homosexuality with her magical powers" (or whateva). That would certainly make me paranoid if I were an assistant or bodyguard or whateva. I know most fans don't go running up to at top speed shouting "STEVIE, STEVIE, OH MY GOD STEEE-viie" at the top of their lungs while drawing . . . SOME-thing . . . out of their pockets (a pen? a gun?
in Madonna's case it was a knife) - but still - there's a line that's hard to see sometimes, and there's VERY little time to make a decision.
I'll take a bitchy person 8 days a week, twice on Sunday, if it will help to assure Stevie's safety. My only gripe, personally, would be if somebody got physically hurt due to a bodyguard over-reacting and jumping the gun. I couldn't imagine that happening, but it wouldn't shock me, either. But overall, I'd simply prefer that she be safe - and she's not. Not to be grim; I'm just saying, try to see it from their point-of-view, and from Stevie's. What is a big huge thrill for a fan, screaming "STEVIE STEVIE I'm your NUMBER-ONE FAN i just LOVE your MUSIC WHAT is THE TOWER ABOUT OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M FINALLY MEETING YOU!!!" - it's the ten thousandth time Stevie's heard it. Don't get me wrong, I know most fans don't act that way - but again, try to see it from their point-of-view - it's "a matter of degree" and sometimes it's unclear what the situation really is. Anyway, that's the way I see it, personally.
They actually did a very good job of satirizing this on Saturday Night Live, in a skit with Sting - I thought it was really funny, actually!

Wait a minute, she's a personal assistant NOT a bodyguard.....

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by The Catdancer

Wait a minute, she's a personal assistant NOT a bodyguard.....

Part of the job of any Personal Assistant for a Big Star is to "run interference" so that the star can have a freaking moment to breathe once in a while. As someone said in another thread, Stevie owes us nothing, especially including even one second of her time if she doesn't feel up to it. In contrast, the job of a security guard is to use either polite talk, or physical force, or even if necessary, the mace or even gun that Stevie has essentially bought and paid for, in order to keep her safe. Stevie owes us nothing and she has a right to be safe, and even to blow people off when she feels like it. But she has an Image to maintain so - the job falls to Karen to be "the bad guy." That's my take on it - Karen's not a bitch - she's just doing the job that - let's face it - Stevie has asked her to do.
It's not personal, it's business, and sometimes Stevie, as anyone else would, just plain doesn't feel up to it. This goes WAY back, by the way - There was apparently a physical resemblance between Stevie and Robin which was close enough that Robin used to pose as Stevie and sign autographs, while Stevie would sneak out the back. Not very nice, I know, but that was "back in the day." But she still sometimes doesn't feel up to it or doesn't have time, I guess - and then Karen has to be "the bad guy" and people start calling her a bitch.

Anyway, what I'm saying is this:

Karen is "Step One." Her job is to be nice, not nice, etc., as long as Stevie is left alone. So she's paid to be a bitch sometimes.

If Step One is not enough, then it's her job to recognize that and tell the security guard, which of course is step two. So she's part diplomat, part judge, part communicator to the security guard - and maybe sometimes the line is confusing and maybe sometimes she overreacts. Add to that, having a bad day, or being in a bad mood, or just moments ago having to deal with a fan that WAS over the line - and all of a sudden people are saying "Karen's a bitch" and "Stevie's people aren't nice to her fans." I'm very happy to hear that Stevie's people are doing the job that Stevie pays them to do - it means she's safer. And that's another one of my "unpopular Stevie opinions."

[amber]

If you are going to say "whatevah" you have to spell it with an "H". "Whateva" is not in the Official Unabridged Stevie Dictionary.
It is not an acceptable spelling of the word. Incorrectamundo.
-5!


Carry on.

[StevieRox2]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Part of the job of any Personal Assistant for a Big Star is to "run interference" so that the star can have a freaking moment to breathe once in a while. As someone said in another thread, Stevie owes us nothing, especially including even one second of her time if she doesn't feel up to it. In contrast, the job of a security guard is to use either polite talk, or physical force, or even if necessary, the mace or even gun that Stevie has essentially bought and paid for, in order to keep her safe. Stevie owes us nothing and she has a right to be safe, and even to blow people off when she feels like it. But she has an Image to maintain so - the job falls to Karen to be "the bad guy." That's my take on it - Karen's not a bitch - she's just doing the job that - let's face it - Stevie has asked her to do.
It's not personal, it's business, and sometimes Stevie, as anyone else would, just plain doesn't feel up to it. This goes WAY back, by the way - There was apparently a physical resemblance between Stevie and Robin which was close enough that Robin used to pose as Stevie and sign autographs, while Stevie would sneak out the back. Not very nice, I know, but that was "back in the day." But she still sometimes doesn't feel up to it or doesn't have time, I guess - and then Karen has to be "the bad guy" and people start calling her a bitch.

Anyway, what I'm saying is this:

Karen is "Step One." Her job is to be nice, not nice, etc., as long as Stevie is left alone. So she's paid to be a bitch sometimes.

If Step One is not enough, then it's her job to recognize that and tell the security guard, which of course is step two. So she's part diplomat, part judge, part communicator to the security guard - and maybe sometimes the line is confusing and maybe sometimes she overreacts. Add to that, having a bad day, or being in a bad mood, or just moments ago having to deal with a fan that WAS over the line - and all of a sudden people are saying "Karen's a bitch" and "Stevie's people aren't nice to her fans." I'm very happy to hear that Stevie's people are doing the job that Stevie pays them to do - it means she's safer. And that's another one of my "unpopular Stevie opinions."

Umm, I think if you look back at what I said, I said that Karen is even a bitch to special fans who have been invited backstage by Stevie herself, and these fans are even moon necklace recipients. - There's no call for that. Additionally, I tend to disagree that you have to be a bitch in order to be a personal assistant. I think you can do your job professionally and not be unkind to fans. That's what her body guards are there for, and having met hers personally, he's a big dude and can most definitely handle any "problem fans" out there, he's more than capable of running interference for Stevie.

Lastly - I want Karen's job!

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by StevieRox2

Umm, I think if you look back at what I said, I said that Karen is even a bitch to special fans who have been invited backstage by Stevie herself, and these fans are even moon necklace recipients. - There's no call for that. Additionally, I tend to disagree that you have to be a bitch in order to be a personal assistant. I think you can do your job professionally and not be unkind to fans. That's what her body guards are there for, and having met hers personally, he's a big dude and can most definitely handle any "problem fans" out there, he's more than capable of running interference for Stevie.

Lastly - I want Karen's job!

Uhhmmm - OH-kay! Are you sure that this isn't just something that happens when she's in a bad mood? In other words, are you hearing the same thing from several different sources at many different times???

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by amber

If you are going to say "whatevah" you have to spell it with an "H". "Whateva" is not in the Official Unabridged Stevie Dictionary.
It is not an acceptable spelling of the word. Incorrectamundo.
-5!


Carry on.

ooops! oh-kay! :blush:

[StevieRox2]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Uhhmmm - OH-kay! Are you sure that this isn't just something that happens when she's in a bad mood? In other words, are you hearing the same thing from several different sources at many different times???

Unfortunately yes and yes. But hey, they didn't let it get in their way of enjoying their time with Stevie!

I definitely get what you're saying about the true crazies, like the one who wanted to cure himself of being homosexual, etc. Makes me think of the movie Bodyguard with Whitney Houston in it and the real nut case fan, it's got to be really scary at times.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Please don't misunderstand what I was saying there. I took some classes once at a Medical School and some of the extremely gifted, incredibly intelligent, future Medical Doctors who were Medical Students there - and who had G.P.A.'s in college - while taking hard science courses - of between 3.7 and 4.0 - have learning disorders. It's perfectly possible for someone to be highly intelligent - or even a genius - like Stevie - and still have a learning disorder. I would bet that she has an I.Q. of somewhere around 150 or higher. And, she has a learning disorder. Of course, I'm only guessing, but "I calls it as I sees it."

I guess it depends on what kind of learning disorder it is and how bad it is. Say for instance, if someone had hard core dyslexia, that would make it extremely difficult for them to read and write college level material, so they would have a hard time maintaining a 4.0 GPA without some kind of tutoring or help of some kind. And then there are grades of dyslexia, my brother-in-law has it so bad that he still cannot hardly even read and write at 22 years old. So given that there are grades in the severity of different learning disorders, if Stevie has one, it must be negligible, so much in fact that it's probably not even worth mentioning Also, where, besides not being able to read music, is the evidence?