Speaking of the ladies, what happened to Sara Fleetwood? - Page 2

tommer · #16 05-04-2003, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by dissention
Read posts thoroughly before commenting. If you don't like my opinions, fine. But don't insult them; it's unbecoming.

becoming WHOM? don't expect anything from ME, i'm pure evil.
and besides, i'm reading thoroghly only the posts i find intersesing and opinionated, English is not my native tongue and i don't read it that easily, i try reading only the important stuff.

Johnny Stew · #17 05-04-2003, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by dissention
Doesn't Mick have a daughter named Sara and an ex-wife named Sara (Recor) Fleetwood? I know that Stevie was pretty pissed with their marriage and affair. Lindsey himself has said that Stevie is very conservative, so I just don't see posing for Playboy sitting well with Stevie. Maybe they're friends again, maybe not. These are just my beliefs.

Mick's daughters are Lucy, Amy, Tessa and.... uhm, er... dang, I'm drawing a blank.

But he doesn't have a daughter named Sara.

Stevie and Sara Recor met sometime in the '70s (coincidentally, Sara was married to Jim Recor at the time, who later co-wrote "Love In Store" with Christine), and they became close friends.

Stevie and Mick's affair took place towards the end of his second marriage to Jenny Boyd, and eventually they broke it off for the sake of Fleetwood Mac.
Mick then almost immediately took up with Sara, which had to have stung Stevie to some degree... after all, who wants to see someone they've loved, now dating one of their best friends.

However it doesn't appear that Sara and Mick's relationship ever caused any tension between Stevie and Sara.

Sara and Mick married in 1988, but divorced just a few years later.
She then toured with Stevie in 1994, to promote 'Street Angel' (she also sang background vocals on several tracks on the album).

The nude photo appeared in the February 1995 issue of Playboy.

As of the 1997 Harper's Bazaar piece on Stevie, she was living in Stevie's home, and Sara is credited in the 'Enchanted' liner-notes in 1998, for designing the logo on the front of the boxed-set.

Most recently, she was thanked in the 'Trouble In Shangri-La' liner notes.

To the best of my knowledge, they've always been friends.

Johnny Stew · #18 05-04-2003, 03:49 PM

Ruby!
That's the name of Mick's other daughter.

I can't believe I couldn't remember that.

FiercestCalmSea · #19 05-04-2003, 05:24 PM

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Also, from what I've heard, the whole GQ thing in 1990 wasn't what spilt up the friendship between them. When she married Kim back in 1983, she called Don to invite him to the wedding and he said some choice words and hung up on her. .

Only partially true.He changed his mind shortly thereafter and attended the wedding.

Also,Mick does not have a daughter named Sara.

As for Stevie and Sara not being friends b/c of Sara marrying Mick or posing for Playboy,i think that is nuts.Stevie may act conservative,but she ain't no saint.She was with Mick when he was still married to Jenny..which isn't exactly high on the moral ladder..so,no..i don't think she is into judging people on that level.

dissention · #20 05-04-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by FiercestCalmSea
Only partially true.He changed his mind shortly thereafter and attended the wedding.

Also,Mick does not have a daughter named Sara.

As for Stevie and Sara not being friends b/c of Sara marrying Mick or posing for Playboy,i think that is nuts.Stevie may act conservative,but she ain't no saint.She was with Mick when he was still married to Jenny..which isn't exactly high on the moral ladder..so,no..i don't think she is into judging people on that level.

I have an interview from the Timespace era (I'll hafta look through my boots to figure out which it is) where Stevie says that Don didn't attend the wedding, he hung up on her when she invited him, and was furious that she would disrespect Robin by marrying Kim (he was good friends with Robin).

In the BBC Nicky Horne interview, she also talks about Don and how mad he was, but that's it for that interview.

You're absolutely right about Stevie not being a saint; even Lindsey said he doesn't understand how she could her life the way she did and be conservative at the same time. I wouldn't say that Stevie doesn't judge people, though, or always respect them. Heard the Mark and Brian interview from SA era? She was pretty cruel when she talked about Prince; I hope to god he never heard that interview. I know that if I was him, I'd be flaming! LOL

PS: Who is that girl that's singing into the hairbrush in the mirror in the book with Enchanted? I read in an FAQ that it was Mick's daughter Sara! I'm perplexed. He's got more kids than he knows what to do with!!

nae · #21 05-04-2003, 06:22 PM

I have a feeling the relationship between Sara & Mick could have affected Stevie a bit...there are certain lines her songs that I think could pertain to this. WISYA, has some sort of line saying..."When I see you again, will your very best friend be replaced by some other?"...humm, o.k....I may be reaching here, but I've just always thought of that song as being about that whole thing.

Nae

DeeGeMe · #22 05-04-2003, 09:57 PM

I thought Don Henley attended her wedding too! I could swear that I've read that somewhere.

But I'd never heard the story about him blessing Stevie out for marrying Robin's husband though! That's very interesting--maybe Stevie realized later that Don was right--that she was jumping into that marriage a little too quickly after Robin's death.

But I think it's great that Stevie is still friendly with most of her exes. I still speak to most of mine but it took me a long while to get to that point with a couple of them!

And back to Sara, here's my view, if she wanted to pose for Playboy while she still looked good enough to do it, go for it, at least it wasn't Penthouse or Hustler! It's nothing that I'd ever do, even I had the body for it, but if a close friend of mine decided to do it, I'd support them, because they were my friend.

I doubt Stevie would dump a long-time friend over something like posing nude. I mean, if you've both dated the same guy and one of you even married him, and you're still friends after that. . . I doubt a little thing like a layout in Playboy is going to break up your friendship! And I think it's great that Sara has now become a nurse! Good for her!

Johnny Stew · #23 05-04-2003, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by dissention
PS: Who is that girl that's singing into the hairbrush in the mirror in the book with Enchanted? I read in an FAQ that it was Mick's daughter Sara! I'm perplexed. He's got more kids than he knows what to do with!!

The girl in that picture is Sara... but whoever stated that she was Mick's daughter, was mistaken.

As for the seemingly contradictory aspects of Stevie's personality, I think it's very reasonable and completely normal for a person to do some "wild" things, while being conservative in other areas of their life.
Aren't we all walking contradictions, if we really examine the way we conduct our lives and the choices we make?

There are things that each of us have done or might do, that other people would freak to even know about... while there are things that other people have done, that would curl our toes.

My aunt, for example, can curse to make a sailor blush... but she thinks 'The Simpsons' and 'South Park' are profane and reprehensible!

One of my favorite sayings is, "everyone has to draw their line somewhere."
And so far, it's been true of every single person I've ever encountered... and it's true of myself as well.

FiercestCalmSea · #24 05-05-2003, 06:06 AM

have an interview from the Timespace era (I'll hafta look through my boots to figure out which it is) where Stevie says that Don didn't attend the wedding, he hung up on her when she invited him, and was furious that she would disrespect Robin by marrying Kim (he was good friends with Robin).

I am not gonna dispute a video...although if it was during Timepsace it is questionable..i KNOW i read somewhere that Don was pissed..but that he did eventually go..but whatever..and yes i heard that SA Mark and Brian interview..it wasn't labeled right and i thought for a minute it was current and i almost had a heart attack..but..at that point she was pretty f-ed up on the Klonopin..so that wasn't her true colors showing i'd say.

dissention · #25 05-05-2003, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by FiercestCalmSea
have an interview from the Timespace era (I'll hafta look through my boots to figure out which it is) where Stevie says that Don didn't attend the wedding, he hung up on her when she invited him, and was furious that she would disrespect Robin by marrying Kim (he was good friends with Robin).

I am not gonna dispute a video...although if it was during Timepsace it is questionable..i KNOW i read somewhere that Don was pissed..but that he did eventually go..but whatever..and yes i heard that SA Mark and Brian interview..it wasn't labeled right and i thought for a minute it was current and i almost had a heart attack..but..at that point she was pretty f-ed up on the Klonopin..so that wasn't her true colors showing i'd say.

It's an audio.

But she wasn't on Klonopin at the time; it took place in March of 1994. Stevie went into detox in Dec of '93 and came out in Jan of '94.

BUT...Stevie changes her stories more than her underwear, so I guss we're ALL right!

gypsysara · #26 05-05-2003, 05:24 PM

LOL you all are too funny!

Sara Fleetwood is indeed the woman in the mirror / Enchanted booklet.

I know Robin influenced many of Stevies song, definetly Gypsy ~ "I still see your bright eyes".

Sara I believe was written about her true self. I had no idea it referenced her and Don. Who was the early pregancy with, Lindsey? Re: Goodbye Baby (possibly written in 1975 or 1976)?

I need to mind-meld with Johnny for his knowledge, LOL!

dissention · #27 05-05-2003, 06:05 PM

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Sara I believe was written about her true self. I had no idea it referenced her and Don. Who was the early pregancy with, Lindsey? Re: Goodbye Baby (possibly written in 1975 or 1976)?

I thought Goodbye Baby was about Don and the abortion. But we are certain it's about an abortion; it's glaringly obvious!

gypsysara · #28 05-05-2003, 06:08 PM

For a funny note on this thread, Wynnco (the online memorabelia dealer) is listing a wedding invite to Mick & Sara's wedding for bank.

FiercestCalmSea · #29 05-05-2003, 06:49 PM

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It's an audio. But she wasn't on Klonopin at the time; it took place in March of 1994. Stevie went into detox in Dec of '93 and came out in Jan of '94.

For real?? I never knew the dates...and you are right..she changes her damn stories so much we can't even keep it straight,lol...

Mad4stevie · #30 05-05-2003, 08:21 PM

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c'mon gimme a break, as if she's in position to be judging anyone for posing nude after she's done that buckingham-nicks cover.

I don't think Stevie enjoyed doing that BN cover at all. I remember reading somewhere that she cried at the cover shoot when they wanted her and LB to pose nude. LB basically told her to suck it up because "it's art". Stevie wasn't planning on posing nude because, as the story goes, she spent her last $$ on a new blouse for the photo shoot.