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Old 04-11-2003, 11:05 AM
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....still loving Bleed to Love Her!!! Good to hear Christines harmony in there too!!

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Old 04-11-2003, 11:09 AM
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darn it, I see that another "Real Audio" streamed album was released...lol...Thanks Pip!!! Brian J.
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:09 AM
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I think this is a really good album... If there is a low point it's slower songs like Silver Girl, SYHA and Bleed To Love Her having to follow Running Through The Garden.

What I love, is that Lindsey really you keeps you guessing with his production. It's anything but predictable. Again, the only point where it seems like that magic is lost is during those 3 songs imo. Thats not to say they're bad songs (I love SYHA), I'm just not sure about their placement.

Anyway, I feel it deserved the review it got in Uncut... "Box of all sorts"
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:09 AM
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You guys... "Goodbye Baby" is so beautiful. It made me cry _ no joke. I'm still kinda tearing up. I've always loved the demo, but Stevie and Lindsey have outdone themselves here. Stevie's voice is barely a whisper as she sings those beautiful lyrics. It is simply perfect.
As for "Everybody Finds Out" _ are these really a bunch of 55-year-olds??? LOL. What energy! Great song.
"Destiny Rules" wasn't one of my favorites until now. The ending is great.
"Steal Your Heart" and "Bleed to Love Her" _ simply great, great songwriting.
"Say Goodbye" is even better than it was on GOS. The verse is more muted.
Whoever said the second half of the album is better is right.
But you know how I know this album is great? After listening to it, I feel truly moved. As much as I liked TISL, I didn't feel like this afterward.
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:13 AM
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I think if you're a Lindsey fan, you'll prefer the first half, and a Stevie fan - probably the second.

The first half has Lindseys quirky production all over it, whilst the second is a bit more familiar I think.

Say Goodbye is much better now. That strange rhythm that sounded like someone shaking a half empty bottle of water doesn't make me feel sick anymore!
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:27 AM
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I was trying my hardest to not listen, but i had to give in when is saw that Pip had posted this link. Thanks very much Pip - you are a gem!
I am listening for the first time and love Running through the garden, Silver girl, Everybody finds out (wow!!!).
Overall, so far it all sounds great
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:28 AM
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I think if you're a Lindsey fan, you'll prefer the first half, and a Stevie fan - probably the second.

The first half has Lindseys quirky production all over it, whilst the second is a bit more familiar I think.
LOL - I was so thinking the same thing. It seems they could have put Murrow, Red Rover, Miranda, and Come in some sort of "subsection" that says "Warning - LB is off on a glorious limb in these - press the right arrow to skip" for all of the non adventerous people out there I hope reviewers do not get too turned off by these seemingly envelope pushing songs because they are not exactly mainstream, etc., and are at the beginning of the record.

Note: Come sounds pretty much the same; I love it. I could hear Stevie nowhere on it. I think she just said something to the effect of - this is your one indulgence - so go to it
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:33 AM
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"Think about me everytime you don't come" must be the dirtiest lyric to ever make it on a record by a 50 year old man.

And I actually think Murrow would make a good single. I don't really know how the charts work over there, but the manic verses and chorus and solo I can see appealing to people here (UK). Providing it's given a good music video that doesn't show how old they are now

Running Through The Garden could do well as well imo. Stevie needs to rock out like this a lot more imo.

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Old 04-11-2003, 11:50 AM
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I also have to say that while I love "Bleed to Love Her," they could have left it off as it is basically the same as the live version on The Dance.

They could have put Space Needle there instead!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or, one of the four or five songs they cut to make it a single disc. Maybe they kept it because CM is somewhere in the mix? Just strange in my opinion to repeat what has already been sort of released when so many others exist, etc.
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Old 04-11-2003, 12:12 PM
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I think if you're a Lindsey fan, you'll prefer the first half, and a Stevie fan - probably the second.
Does *everything* have to be reduced to a Stevie vs. Lindsey issue?
I happen to like both of them. I think the reason the second half of SYW appeals to me more is that the songwriting is stronger. What really makes a song last for me is the strength of the melody and lyrics. And to my ears (and I know this is completely subjective) "Steal Your Heart Away" and "Bleed to Love Her" have better melodies and lyrics than "Murrow" and "Come" (to focus on Lindsey's contributions).
Bottom line _ I think the album as a whole is terrific. They should be very proud of themselves.
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Old 04-11-2003, 12:13 PM
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Pip, you're a wicked wicked woman!!!

ok, ok, I have broken down and am now listening to the new album!!!

I'm not thinking or analyzing, I am just enjoying...
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Old 04-11-2003, 12:28 PM
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Does *everything* have to be reduced to a Stevie vs. Lindsey issue?
I'm not comparing them... I didn't say one persons contributions were any better than the other. I feel for big Lindsey fans, or at least fans of his more quirky production, the first half features stuff that will probably appeal to us (speaking as a big Lindsey fan) more than the second half.


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I happen to like both of them. I think the reason the second half of SYW appeals to me more is that the songwriting is stronger.
Fine, but I think Lindseys solo fans will probably prefer the first half. That's all. It's not like I was having a go at either of them.
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Old 04-11-2003, 12:32 PM
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"Think about me everytime you don't come" must be the dirtiest lyric to ever make it on a record by a 50 year old man.
LMAO!!!!! That is so true and sooo funny!
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Old 04-11-2003, 12:34 PM
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I've listened to the whole thing now, though not without interruptions. First impressions:

What's the world Coming To is a great opener. It has a sound reminiscent of Rumours and will at once draw in the more casual fans who bought Rumours but nothing else. Great singing by Lindsey. Cool, straightforward rock 'n roll arrangement.

Murrow was left untouched. Great move. Great song. Very relevant topic. This is one of the most meaningul songs on the album.

Illume is a good song. I like the exotic sounds and the beat. I don't love the lyrics, but I think Stevie does a very competent job of delivering them.

Thrown Down sounds great. I didn't care for this song much at first, but the new mix and the new lyrics improved the song quantifiably.

Miranda is a chilling song with an almost-annoying-yet-appealing riff that gets embedded in your mind long after you hear the song. Wonderful lyrics. The addition of Stevie's harmonies work quite well.

Red Rover gives me chills. I didn't know what to make of this strange song when I first heard it, but it has grown on me, and I truly appreciate what Lindsey was trying to do here. The haunting singing grabs me.

Say You Will was another song I thought would be blah. Not so. Stevie is singing quite well here. It has a nice beat and Rumours-like arrangement. The children closing off the song, while not a new trick, is prett cool. It's a nice touch. I think those are real children, not technology tricks.

Peacekeeper remains a bit of a disappointment. I had high hopes for this song. Maybe when I hear it on the CD it will sound better. I simply don't like the way Stevie's voice was mixed in. It's too in-your-face. The mix should have been more like Miranda and Say Goodbye, where she sounds great. Nevertheless, it's a very good song.

Come is wearing me down. I'm not sure if the familiarity is making me tolerate this song or it actually sounds better. One thing I noticed is John's kick-ass bass playing, especially during the instrumental part. Is John a monster talent or what? Even ChiliD may start to like this song.

Smile at You reminds me of Make Me a Mask. Nice arrangement and good singing. I might have kicked it up at the end of the song, rather than letting it go out with a whimper.

The low point of the album starts with Running Through the Garden. I was looking forward to this song because I liked the demo. The problem is that it sounds too much like the demo. It's like being stuck in 80s hell. Lindsey should have given it a more contemporary mix.

Silver Girl is probably the weakest song. It seems uninspired, both lyrically and musically. The wimpy production that relies too much on keys sounds like 80s drivel to me too.

With Steal Your Heart Away, the album starts to gain steam again. This was always a great song. Stevie's harmonies add depth.

Bleed to Love Her is a wonderful song. I would have rather heard Down on Rodeo in its place, but this will always be a beautiful track.

Everybody Finds Out -- Now you're talking! This song is all-around fun. Kick-ass beat with provocative lyrics. Good singing. Nice mix. I love it. Running Through the Garden should have been done more like this.

Destiny Rules -- I'm unimpressed. The acoustic riff is straight out of World Turning, and I'm not sure I like the lyrics all that much. Oh well.

Say Goodbye is the same with the exception of Stevie's added vocals. The mix seems to have the treble sounds a little higher than the GOS version, but that may be related to the quality of the file. This will always be one of my favorite Lindsey Buckingham song. He topped himself with this one.

Goodbye Baby. No need to wax poetic about this song. It's greatness. Stevie should sing like this a lot more; it works much better for her current range.
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Old 04-11-2003, 12:44 PM
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I think regardless of the 80s sound, RTTG has by far the most energy of Stevies tracks, and her best vocals (or possibly Goodbye Baby). Nothing wrong with being a bit retro.
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