Fan Club Member Banned

[dissention]

Originally posted by Mad4stevie

Hi, dissention - welcome to the Ledge!

I agree totally - it bugs me that the Knight likes to speak for FM even though he is really only involved with Mick's site. Stevie and Lindsey have too much integrity to be involved in something like this - they would be disgusted. I don't blame them or FM, for that matter, I blame INCOMPETENT MANAGEMENT. FM is way too busy getting ready for the tour and doing PR right now, and I understand that. But some people will be so angry that they will shift the blame to FM and it will cost them some fans.

I just hope that this is not a foreshadowing of the tour that is to come . . . [/B]

Thanks! Imagine what the tour will be like...eek!! A tag-team of the Knight and Chris Nicks running merch stands (ohmygawd) and the Knight's gestapo posters from that board running around slapping people for not paying $80 to join the fan club. Eeeeek!

[jwys_soapbox]

I think they did ban my IP address, because no amount of cookie deleting is allowing me to do anything on that board. I did fire off an e-mail to the site demanding a refund of my fan club fees and citing my being banned as the latest reason for my demand.

John

[mbr33]

I have not been banned as of yet...but if I keep complaining about the Fanclub and how I did not get what I was promised I would get I'm sure that my IP will be banned from there soon.

The reason for all this banning and deleting of posts is naturally to keep potential new fanclub members from seeing the facts and NOT joining. There also seems to have been some form of "cleansing" going on last night as alot of posters who had been gone for a few days came back to tell other people that the time for venting had passed and that they had been heard. Time to move on. All kinds of old posts about "what should Stevie sing" "what should the setlist be" and "thanks to the fanclub for all you did for me" started to surface to the top after having been buried under a weeks (or more) worth of posts.

Although the emails and posts I got from the club DID NOT say "you will get front row seats", they did say that the club had secured the best seats in the best 20% of the house which ran from rows one all the way back to rows 25-30 in most venues. Now the emails are telling me that they are working on something to make it up to me....wonder what that will be?

[estranged4life]

several people who were banned (Pip, SaraRhiannon & John), And I cannot believe it!!! I'm very dissappointed with the censorship tactics over there...I guess you cannot give negative feedback over "there".

Brian J.

[jwys_soapbox]

SaraRhiannon got banned? How did she get back in? Because she was online last night.

John

[wondergirl9847]

PIP, John and SaraRhiannon BANNED?!?!! OMG, that has got to be the STUPIDEST thing I have ever heard!!! I have only posted on that board like 3 times or something, in which I joined it just so I could ask Knight questions if I had any. Looks like if I have any questions to ask, it would be HERE because you peeps give me news I've never even gotten from the frickin fan club!! It's nuts how the consensus from us is THAT BOARD IS WIERD! LOL They carry on conversations and you have to wade through 16 pages to get something semi-important. I spend WAY too much time on the net as it is, I don't wanna wade through chit chat to get information.

I'm never gonna NOT be a fan even through all this muck, and I hope they can get their crap together regarding the fan club because I think it's a neat idea. I only wish we were given MORE for our 60 bucks. I would LOVE to have a POSTER, tee-shirt and they could maybe make a short video or something welcoming you to the club for you to keep always. That would be nice. Stickers saying Fleetwood Mac, keychains, a special CD with songs only for FM fans....SOMETHING!!

*POOF*

Wow, I just had this dream that FM fans got stuff for being in the fan club....wierd.

[wetcamelfood]

Originally posted by ThePenguin
I suggest that it might be helpful if we organized a FAQ here (where it won't be deleted) listing the main points about what was promised from the fan club, what was actually delivered, and what could be done about it

This is a good idea, and I didn't join the club so I don't know what e mails etc. were around but I worry that those that did join the club may not have saved those e mails with what they said they "would deliver" (since they had naturally believed what "they had said" they would "provide") so those of you that were members should maybe dig through your papers or inboxes and print out what you have and disseminate the most relevant info from those though those ledgies here that may be more lawyer minded and work in legal areas (if any exist here) may have to be the ones to determine "what was and wasn't promised" in order for anything to "happen" from this. JMHO though.

John

[estranged4life]

a reply that "the Knight" just posted after I was answering a question about eBay and tickets and how I sold my original ticket for the exact price I paid for it:

"The Venue presales for Venue season ticket holders have blocks that they buy. We've traced numerous eBay offers to Season Ticket holders. We see some from the Fan Club too.

Don't believe either can be stopped. We try. Positive ID at a venue before a show has technical issues that also won't work-we've looked into that.

The Knight!"

[gldstwmn]

Hi All,
This is my first ever post on The Ledge. I've lurked here but never psoted and I too am one of the banned. Pip, I can't believe they banned you. I have emailed them three times with no respone. Anyway, thanks for letting me hang out.
Chris

[tommer]

Pip, didn't i warn you those boards are Orwellian???
good to see you back home.

[estranged4life]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Hi All,
This is my first ever post on The Ledge. I've lurked here but never posted and I too am one of the banned. Pip, I can't believe they banned you. I have emailed them three times with no respone. Anyway, thanks for letting me hang out.
Chris

Chris, Have fun posting and enjoy yourself...Brian "Race the BROWN truck Jarrett!!!" J.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
Good to see you here! Tell me... was your IP address banned? I can't even access the board from my own computer so I am assuming they banned my IP address

Pip

Pip,
My IP address was banned.

[Mad4stevie]

Originally posted by wetcamelfood
This is a good idea, and I didn't join the club so I don't know what e mails etc. were around but I worry that those that did join the club may not have saved those e mails with what they said they "would deliver" (since they had naturally believed what "they had said" they would "provide") so those of you that were members should maybe dig through your papers or inboxes and print out what you have and disseminate the most relevant info from those though those ledgies here that may be more lawyer minded and work in legal areas (if any exist here) may have to be the ones to determine "what was and wasn't promised" in order for anything to "happen" from this. JMHO though.

John

Well, I am a lawyer *duck* and would be happy to help if I can, but I only practice law here in PA. Not that I have litigation in mind, because I don't think that is the answer, but if the fan club exists in CA, then the question might be based on CA law instead of other states. There is room for argument, however, that any state law could apply because of the marketing of the fan club in all states, in addition to other things. Federal law could also come into play potentially, depending on what allegations could be ascertained from all the marketing, etc.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by estranged4life
a reply that "the Knight" just posted after I was answering a question about eBay and tickets and how I sold my original ticket for the exact price I paid for it:

"The Venue presales for Venue season ticket holders have blocks that they buy. We've traced numerous eBay offers to Season Ticket holders. We see some from the Fan Club too.

Don't believe either can be stopped. We try. Positive ID at a venue before a show has technical issues that also won't work-we've looked into that.

The Knight!"

Then here's a question for the FAQ. Why is a huge artist like Tom Petty able to do Positive ID and not Fleetwood Mac?

[estranged4life]

one statement "the Knight" made that I posted earlier:

"We've traced numerous eBay offers to Season Ticket holders. We see some from the FAN CLUB too."

So I'm "almost" sure that statement confirms that some of the "fanclub" members may indeed have been "brokers/scalpers/etc"...

So that seems to indicate that their "presale fanclub member" system was flawed from the very beginning.

Brian J.