Say You Will track listing

[Christopher]

Carne,
Silver Girl and Desting Rules have been copywritten by Stevie as posted on Sararhiannons "Stevie Nicks Underground" site

****Silver Girl****
Registration Number: PAu-2-637-629
Description: Compact disc & lyrics sheets.
Claimant: Welsh Witch Music
Created: 2001
Registered: 26Feb02
Author on © Application: words & music: Stevie Nicks

****Destiny Rules****
Registration Number: PAu-2-637-626
Claimant: Welsh Witch Music
Created: 2001
Registered: February 26, 2002
Author on © Application:
words & music: Stevie Nicks


I think the only 2 songs in question now are : "Everybody Finds out" (Lindsey??) & "Goodbye Baby" (Stevie & poss. the Tower ??)

Another interesting side note....most of you know Luke A, who also mentioned on Micks site at one time that "Destiny Rules" was one of the 6 tracks or so, that was being considered as the lead single.

[Mike B]

Originally posted by riff_Shuffler
The songs are listed *from longest running to shortest running songs* - take a look again!

Lol...I can't believe I didn't notice that. I even thought "Wow, those are some short songs at the end..." Duh.

I do think this is the tracklist, but won't we all be surprised if we see the official list and it is nothing like this one? That would be kinda funny...

[BombaySapphire3]

originally posted by Christopher
"Another interesting side note....most of you know Luke A, who also mentioned on Micks site at one time that "Destiny Rules" was one of the 6 tracks or so, that was being considered as the lead single"
If this is the same Luke who had the advanced copy of TISL and insisted that "Love Changes' would be the likely first single I would take what he says with the probverbial grain of salt.

[Hawkeye]

Thrown down 4.20

This is good news for me. That means that the Thrown Down we've all been calling the finished version, is NOT the finished version. Which to me is good becaus i find the thrown Down we currently have very dull and boring. I hope that vocal gets improved.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by BombaySapphire3
If this is the same Luke who had the advanced copy of TISL and insisted that "Love Changes' would be the likely first single I would take what he says with the probverbial grain of salt.

Luke wasn't wrong on that... "Love Changes" *was* an early contender for first single.
Reprise Records' current A & R man, David Kahne, produced the track. And if I remember correctly, Kahne was, at the time, the acting head of Reprise, right after Howie Klein stepped down.
By the time the album was released, they had found someone to officially take the position, and other songs were chosen as singles.

I've often wondered what Stevie thought of Mr. Kahne, as I've heard that several other artists can't stand him.

He does appear in one of the photographs in the 'TISL' liner notes though, so presumeably they got along well enough.


Now... back to the topic at hand!....
I'm kind of surprised that Lindsey has two more tracks than Stevie (if that truly is the case).
In the case of an album like 'Tusk,' where Stevie's tracks were the longest on the album, and Lindsey's were the shortest, it made sense... but the timings given earlier in this thread, look fairly even for both writers.

But then, I'm not going to complain. Stevie's solo career continues to provide her with an excellent opportunity to get her songs heard, but Lindsey hasn't released an album since 1992... so it seems only fair that he have a couple more tracks on the release.

It's all good.



Johnny Stew

[FiercestCalmSea]

I agree....if Linds has two more songs,who cares...i love Stevie to death...but she has had more of an opportunity to get her stuff out there...so let Linds have some time to shine(omg..i can't believe i just said that...i think i am now a fully converted Lindsey fan,lol).

[Phil]

I am confident that "Goodbye Baby" will be what many know as "The Tower". Incidentally, the song was never entitled "The Tower" - that was simply an assumption among fans that has been perpetuated over the years. When the song was originally demoed at Spectrum Studios in 1976, it was listed as "Goodbye Baby" on the engineer's tracksheet and I know this for fact. I haven't seen the copyright details of this song so it is possible that the title may have evolved, but I would be surprised if what we hear on the new album isn't what we're expecting.

[estranged4life]

surprised that there isn't a single song that's over the 5 minute length mark...I thought there would be at least 1 song that would ("Illume" comes close though)...Brian J.

[Phil]

I would imagine that many of the songs have been edited in response to the paring down of the original double set. "Come" is the obvious example but even "Miranda" and "Thrown Down" have seen their running times reduced. Another bow to corporate pressure... and to think Mick likened the vibe of this album to the spirit of "Tusk"! Now if only Stevie and Lindsey would consider breaking the chain once and for all... here's hoping.

[ERigby818]

I mean, if they are just dummy files to clog the p2ps, they aren't the real thing, right? So they aren't necessarily accurate, right? I'm hoping we'll get at least one long-winded Stevie song and that Come has every note the demo has, or more
-Sonia

[SteUK]

What about Twist of Fate?!?

I simply refuse to believe that this will be omitted!

Then again, an LB solo album to quickly follow up the hype created by a Mac effort...hmm, all good maybe!?

[Sorcerer386]

Originally posted by Hawkeye
This is good news for me. That means that the Thrown Down we've all been calling the finished version, is NOT the finished version. Which to me is good becaus i find the thrown Down we currently have very dull and boring. I hope that vocal gets improved.

Actually, if Thrown Down has gone down to 4:20, it doesn't necessarily mean we've been hearing the unfinished product. It could just mean that they went in and took a chunk out. I would think they would just take out the repeated first verse, which wouldn't be too bad. However, the edit could be of the instrumental, or the ending -- in which case I'd be really upset. The ending is the greatest part of the song with both Lindsey and Stevie belting their voices out, "ABOUT JUST HOW MUCH HE NEVER REALLY TOLD HERRRRRRRRRRR, Thrown Down...etc."

[sodascouts]

Originally posted by Sorcerer386
However, the edit could be of the instrumental, or the ending -- in which case I'd be really upset. The ending is the greatest part of the song with both Lindsey and Stevie belting their voices out, "ABOUT JUST HOW MUCH HE NEVER REALLY TOLD HERRRRRRRRRRR, Thrown Down...etc."

They'd have to be imbeciles to take out that part!!!! But then again look what they did to "I'm So Afraid" on the VBoFM...

Well, I'm not going to borrow trouble. I'm going to hope for the best until I have evidence spinning in my CD player that they blew the song.

It minimizes stress!

[ERigby818]

Originally posted by Sorcerer386
The ending is the greatest part of the song with both Lindsey and Stevie belting their voices out, "ABOUT JUST HOW MUCH HE NEVER REALLY TOLD HERRRRRRRRRRR, Thrown Down...etc."

I TOTALLY agree. The idea of them cutting that back is just too horrible to imagine. That's why I'm sticking with my theory that these times aren't accurate because they came from empty files.

On a happier note....we know what it means when Stevie songs fade out while there's still singing....Yep, extra AMAZING verse in the live performance...Maybe the live version of Thrown Down on the tour will have some crazy epilogue that'll tack on another three minutes to the song.
-Sonia

[seteca]

AAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

They cut down "Come" to 4:19!!!!

Now they BETTER release it as a single!!!!!!!! Otherwise there is NO excuse!!!!!!

I predict each verse will be cut down by a half, and the middle of the guitar solo will be chopped out...I even have a pretty good idea of which part that will be.

I can now only hope and pray that he gives the song the "I'm So Afraid" treatment on stage and does it justice.