Buffalo 2023 - Page 2

BrownEyedGirl26 · #16 10-26-2023, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic

If the casual assistants that went in 2014, 2015 and 2019 and heard the Gypsy story the three times, and then they decide to go again in 2022, I can only think they don't mind. Or worse yet they enjoy it.

Hi Villavic and BigAl84,
I think this needs to be addressed. Every business should ask for feedback and adjust, their, practices accordingly, for the sake of their customers. She needs to keep her show fresh for her sake as well as the sake of her 'customers'. After all, this is her legacy and she will be remembered for everything she does. She has too many songs that need to be performed, as well, to keep her fans and 'customers' interested. Also, to freshen up her show, going forward, if there are any of her band or managers reading this, can you follow this up, please?

Macfan4life · #17 10-27-2023, 05:00 AM

Ok I took one for the team and actually listened to her full Gypsy speech/intro for this show. Its just as long as ever but it has morphed into something else. For 2014/2015 OWTS she spoke about the early days on the road with Buckingham and opening for CCR and going to a clothing store in the velvet underground to buy her first really cool outfit. The speech was pretty much the same for 24k Gold.
This speech was about how much money she was making when she first joined Fleetwood Mac compared to her hard life before joining. Her mother is now brought up in the Gypsy story. She says she would ground herself and move her mattress to the floor to sort of remember the hard times. But in the end she says she was still "Stevie."
Stevie has taken form of someone bigger than herself.

UnwindedDreams · #18 10-27-2023, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl26

Hi Villavic and BigAl84,
I think this needs to be addressed. Every business should ask for feedback and adjust, their, practices accordingly, for the sake of their customers. She needs to keep her show fresh for her sake as well as the sake of her 'customers'. After all, this is her legacy and she will be remembered for everything she does. She has too many songs that need to be performed, as well, to keep her fans and 'customers' interested. Also, to freshen up her show, going forward, if there are any of her band or managers reading this, can you follow this up, please?

I agree with you BrownEyed. Sadly, her management is in consultation with Irving Azoff and Irving just this week said that he told Eagles to do their "greatest hits" for their Final Tour. He said "you can't argue with the greatest hits." For the final tour, Eagles should be playing Disco Strangler, Greeks Don't Want No Freaks, Get Over It, and other non-radio songs.

And for the money Stevie's charging: $1,000, $750, $350 for the floor seats and $200 for upper seats she likely can't play Rock A Little, Alice, and Violet and Blue for example. I Sing for the Things is her only deep cut.

You are so right that now and frankly, last year were the times for her to go deep with no new album to play. Fall From Grace has been played hundreds of times. Do In Your Dreams or the Twisted from 24 Karat Gold. Hell, play the Bella Donna album in full with The Dealer, Blue Lamp, and Sleeping Angel. But she has returned to the 2005-2010 casino/shed show setlist. And she's making mad money. The audiences are so happy to be in the same room with her but these are not die hard fans. Die hards want the stuff that thousands in the venue don't know.

BigAl84 · #19 10-27-2023, 08:31 AM

...and bragging to your audience about how much money you were making in a time when we're coming off of a life changing pandemic and an inflation spiral? It's pretty gross. There are better ways to do it, but her approach just comes across entirely tacky.

jmn3 · #20 10-27-2023, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I agree with you BrownEyed. Sadly, her management is in consultation with Irving Azoff and Irving just this week said that he told Eagles to do their "greatest hits" for their Final Tour. He said "you can't argue with the greatest hits." For the final tour, Eagles should be playing Disco Strangler, Greeks Don't Want No Freaks, Get Over It, and other non-radio songs.

Their setlist is exactly why I didn’t bother seeing this tour. It’s the shortest Eagles setlist I’ve seen in years and it’s the same damn songs I’ve heard many times. There’s no special gem/nugget anywhere.

jmn3 · #21 10-27-2023, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84

...and bragging to your audience about how much money you were making in a time when we're coming off of a life changing pandemic and an inflation spiral? It's pretty gross. There are better ways to do it, but her approach just comes across entirely tacky.

I hate when she goes on and on about how poor they were. Lady, you and Lindsey both came from well off families and never had to worry too much because you always had wealthy parents who were going to bail your rear ends out. She acts like they were paupers before 1975.

HomerMcvie · #22 10-27-2023, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3

I hate when she goes on and on about how poor they were. Lady, you and Lindsey both came from well off families and never had to worry too much because you always had wealthy parents who were going to bail your rear ends out. She acts like they were paupers before 1975.

$he's a master of playing the victim card.

bwboy · #23 10-27-2023, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

You are so right that now and frankly, last year were the times for her to go deep with no new album to play. Fall From Grace has been played hundreds of times. Do In Your Dreams or the Twisted from 24 Karat Gold. Hell, play the Bella Donna album in full with The Dealer, Blue Lamp, and Sleeping Angel. But she has returned to the 2005-2010 casino/shed show setlist. And she's making mad money. The audiences are so happy to be in the same room with her but these are not die hard fans. Die hards want the stuff that thousands in the venue don't know.

Stevie could play hits she hasn’t sang in years, so they’re practically deep cuts at this point- she would have nothing to lose and plenty to gain by adding Rooms on Fire, Talk to Me, I Can’t Wait, and Has Anyone Ever Written Anything and get rid of Gypsy and Free Falling. I mean, it’d be nice if she really revamp her setlist, but even these few changes would freshen her shows.

HomerMcvie · #24 10-27-2023, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3

Their setlist is exactly why I didn’t bother seeing this tour. It’s the shortest Eagles setlist I’ve seen in years and it’s the same damn songs I’ve heard many times. There’s no special gem/nugget anywhere.

I'd love to see them one last time, but really don't want to pay those prices.
Is it weird that Deacon came back, after he quit?
The last time I saw them, when Deacon and Vince joined, the first thing I noticed was that did ZERO Henley solo songs, which was weird.

Macfan4life · #25 10-27-2023, 10:06 AM

Does anyone really believe she slept on a mattress on the floor while making all that money in the early days of Fleetwood Mac?
I thought it was funny (and so did the audience) when she wont say she was "rich". She says she was "not poor."
The Gypsy story has change from "I was a young artist in a band in a really cool location at a cool time in history. Got to see, play with, and experience lots of things"
TO
"I was poor and working so hard as a house cleaner and became famous and filthy rich. But I did not let it go to my head, I slept on the floor just to remind myself what it was like not being so rich"

BTW
Stevie
Regardless of how much money one makes, we all must file income taxes. It almost sounds like she never filed for taxes until she was rich. I smell another IRA audit coming

UnwindedDreams · #26 10-27-2023, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3

Their setlist is exactly why I didn’t bother seeing this tour. It’s the shortest Eagles setlist I’ve seen in years and it’s the same damn songs I’ve heard many times. There’s no special gem/nugget anywhere.

This setlist is shorter than the post-Hotel California album performance set they did on their 2020 Hotel California show. That was an awesome show.

Poor Timothy gets one song now. They could throw him Love Will Keeps Us Alive and I Don’t Want To Hear Anymore.

UnwindedDreams · #27 10-27-2023, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy

Stevie could play hits she hasn’t sang in years, so they’re practically deep cuts at this point- she would have nothing to lose and plenty to gain by adding Rooms on Fire, Talk to Me, I Can’t Wait, and Has Anyone Ever Written Anything and get rid of Gypsy and Free Falling. I mean, it’d be nice if she really revamp her setlist, but even these few changes would freshen her shows.

Totally agree. Can we agree on removing the Buffalo Springfield song too? It serves as a melatonin.

BigAl84 · #28 10-27-2023, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy

Stevie could play hits she hasn’t sang in years, so they’re practically deep cuts at this point- she would have nothing to lose and plenty to gain by adding Rooms on Fire, Talk to Me, I Can’t Wait, and Has Anyone Ever Written Anything and get rid of Gypsy and Free Falling. I mean, it’d be nice if she really revamp her setlist, but even these few changes would freshen her shows.

Sadly, I think it's too late for a lot of those songs. They probably don't sound good in a lowered key and she doesn't have the range to do them like she used to.

BigAl84 · #29 10-27-2023, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I smell another IRA audit coming

Her old coke dealer is going to get one h*ll of a 1099

BigAl84 · #30 10-27-2023, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3

I hate when she goes on and on about how poor they were. Lady, you and Lindsey both came from well off families and never had to worry too much because you always had wealthy parents who were going to bail your rear ends out. She acts like they were paupers before 1975.

To be fair...I think her parents tried to make sure that they figured it out on their own as much as possible. Yes, both families were well off, but I don't think they were running around like trust fund kids. I remember seeing those photographs of Lindsey on the floor of the house they rented (from the Richard D. collection). It was basically a bare room with a lamp on the floor or something. Neither family was going to let them starve or be homeless by any means, but I get the feeling they were not given blank checks.

The Gypsy stories have evolved and changed so many times at this point, it's become less and less of a sincere reflection and increasingly more of a contrived schtick.