overdoses.......

[bombaysaffires]

you know, with all the conversation around Prince, and the possible use of "save drugs" when he possibly overdosed made me think about Stevie. Whether the Prince stories turn out to be true or not, I have to wonder if any such interventions had to be done on Stevie. I'm suspecting yes. Paul Fishkin talks about them having to "scrape her off the floor" more than once, and of what he called "near-overdoses" on the road. Not all overdoses are fatal, and I got the sense that because they didn't kill her he didn't consider them real "overdoses' but honestly, I can totally imagine her having been found unconscious and having to get emergency medical intervention. Someone in an earlier thread said that they think she's got nothing more to hide of the "bad stuff" that happened, but I think she really would hate for people to think about or dwell on the real gritty and grim aspects of her addictions.

Just with all this Prince talk about such things makes me think of how damn lucky she is.

[elle]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Just with all this Prince talk about such things

you know, all the talk about the chronic hip problems caused by jumping around in way too high heels got me wondering - don't people always talk about Stevie having hip problems? could it be similar thing?

i know that these days she doesn't jump around nearly as much as Prince did for decades, but people say she used to in her younger, coked up days.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by elle

you know, all the talk about the chronic hip problems caused by jumping around in way too high heels got me wondering - don't people always talk about Stevie having hip problems? could it be similar thing?

i know that these days she doesn't jump around nearly as much as Prince did for decades, but people say she used to in her younger, coked up days.

there's been mention of foot problems, which wouldn't surprise me a bit.

I'd hate to think she's taking anything prescription let alone opioids for pain with her history......

She'd clearly like to not wear the boots (all summer long) but too many selfish fans bitched about the frankenboots so she switched back.

[elle]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

there's been mention of foot problems, which wouldn't surprise me a bit.

I'd hate to think she's taking anything prescription let alone opioids for pain with her history......

She'd clearly like to not wear the boots (all summer long) but too many selfish fans bitched about the frankenboots so she switched back.

no, no - i don't think she's taking something like that for pain, i was just thinking that her hip problems may stem from those high heels.

there are other artists who switched to flat boots these days and they are doing just fine, still screaming with style - Cyndi Lauper who is also very very short comes to mind.

frankenboots are not the only option!

[olive]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

there's been mention of foot problems, which wouldn't surprise me a bit.

I'd hate to think she's taking anything prescription let alone opioids for pain with her history......

She'd clearly like to not wear the boots (all summer long) but too many selfish fans bitched about the frankenboots so she switched back.

I just saw Cyndi and she was wearing a platform sneaker ( i refuse to use buzz words ),also Pat Benatar had them too the difference is these ladies wear pants not a dress so it looks cool I have seen Margaret Cho in the same type of solid sole platform but they were combat boots

[Macfan4life]

If it turns out that Prince died of a drug overdose and Stevie did not is quite shocking and ironic. Stevie told the story that years after he did Stand Back she was sick in bed and refused to give her cough medicine because Prince said he did not want her to get addicted to another substance (or something like that).
Stevie's Thousand Days is written about Prince and some of the lyrics are shocking.... about him dragging her up the stairs, etc. Now looking back to have thought Stevie survived but Prince did not is pretty ironic.

[elle]

Originally Posted by olive

I just saw Cyndi and she was wearing a platform sneaker ( i refuse to use buzz words ),also Pat Benatar had them too the difference is these ladies wear pants not a dress so it looks cool I have seen Margaret Cho in the same type of solid sole platform but they were combat boots

yeah i saw Cyndi a year ago and she wore combat boots, without any platform on them. Stevie has some similar stage outfits that would go with nice stylish flat boots.

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

If it turns out that Prince died of a drug overdose and Stevie did not is quite shocking and ironic. Stevie told the story that years after he did Stand Back she was sick in bed and refused to give her cough medicine because Prince said he did not want her to get addicted to another substance (or something like that).
Stevie's Thousand Days is written about Prince and some of the lyrics are shocking.... about him dragging her up the stairs, etc. Now looking back to have thought Stevie survived but Prince did not is pretty ironic.

i don't think anyone familiar with opiod issues would call it ironic; just incredibly sad. even people who do everything to fight addiction (in themselves and others!) can succumb.

as we all know, opioids are highly addictive, and even worse for people who have addictive nature to begin with. those stories as well as all recent Paisley Park ones sound very much like Prince did not want to be enabler for anyone. Richard Dashut cites his own addictive nature as one of the big reasons why he doesn't want to have back surgery he so desperately needs - because he thinks he can't risk getting addicted to opioids he would need after the surgery.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by olive

I just saw Cyndi and she was wearing a platform sneaker ( i refuse to use buzz words ),also Pat Benatar had them too the difference is these ladies wear pants not a dress so it looks cool

Yes. When Stevie wears those black leggings, she could incorporate flats more easily. But it doesn't matter. When you're hobbling on heels, you don't look better or any more glamorous in them than you would in comfy (but ugly) Reeboks.

The way Prince dressed, he usually had his heels to match his pants so it was not obvious where the pants stopped and the heels began. He could easily have started wearing flats a long time ago. He just didn't want to be short.

Michele

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Someone in an earlier thread said that they think she's got nothing more to hide of the "bad stuff" that happened, but I think she really would hate for people to think about or dwell on the real gritty and grim aspects of her addictions.

Just with all this Prince talk about such things makes me think of how damn lucky she is.

But she likes to say she came thisclose to dying all of the time anyway. I would think she'd be ok with talking about it now, especially when she is giving one of her cautionary comments to the youth of today.

Michele

[michelej1]

The 5'2" curse.


Michele

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by michelej1

But she likes to say she came thisclose to dying all of the time anyway. I would think she'd be ok with talking about it now, especially when she is giving one of her cautionary comments to the youth of today.

Michele

yeah but this is Stevie we're talking about....everything is romanticized in her versions. You know, like dying in the movies.... beautifully coiffed and made up and hand on your brow....

On the floor unconscious, or in a pool of your own bodily fluids..... not so romantic a picture.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

yeah but this is Stevie we're talking about....everything is romanticized in her versions. You know, like dying in the movies.... beautifully coiffed and made up and hand on your brow....

On the floor unconscious, or in a pool of your own bodily fluids..... not so romantic a picture.

But dying because there's a dime-sized hole in your nose isn't romantic either. But your comment does remind me of Elizabeth Taylor and Butterfield 8. Everyone voted for her because they thought she just might swoon out of existence.

Michele

[StreetAngel86]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Someone in an earlier thread said that they think she's got nothing more to hide of the "bad stuff" that happened, but I think she really would hate for people to think about or dwell on the real gritty and grim aspects of her addictions.

Just with all this Prince talk about such things makes me think of how damn lucky she is.

she should tell EVERYTHING
she's already put a heap of stuff out there
i think there's prob a lot of bad #hiT we dont know
and out with it.

won't taint my view of her.
and we all know both her addictions pretty much killed her soooooooooo

Originally Posted by elle

i don't think anyone familiar with opiod issues would call it ironic; just incredibly sad. even people who do everything to fight addiction (in themselves and others!) can succumb.

actually it IS ironic coz he bitched about her lifestyle choices
and it is probably one of the reasons they couldn't be friends or lovers or whatever.
and Stevie is STILL alive walking this planet.
Not Prince, not Michael Jackson, not xyz number of "celebs" who have "addictions" to legal drugs for whatever reason.
or mix their drugs, self medicate etc

whether or not the drugs were illegal or not is not even the issue.
you can get addicted to any drug.

let's just face facts.
Stevie is an immortal vampire.
**knocks on wood**