Interesting Chart Info

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by elle

other than various fan speculations, there is really nothing to tell us the whole band will be on board for the upcoming album, yet, either.

Lindsey stated that, after the tour, they're going to go back into the studio -- with Stevie -- to finish the album.

That came directly from the horse's mouth, so I believe we can all rest assured that it's more than just fan speculation that the whole band is on board.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Lindsey stated that, after the tour, they're going to go back into the studio -- with Stevie -- to finish the album.

That came directly from the horse's mouth, so I believe we can all rest assured that it's more than just fan speculation that the whole band is on board.

I think that Stevie is going to step up to the plate and be fully involved in the creation of the album. Though I feared a Tango In The Night scenario, I'm hopeful she will fully collaborate on it. She's very happy to have Christine back in the fray. It's no longer a boys club. I can't imagine she wouldn't want to spend time working with Christine again.

The only kink was Christine's surprise rejoin; Stevie already had a solo album in the works. She waited 10 years to make another solo album, so everyone was a little blind-sided when, just 3 years later, we find out she's making another solo album. That's lightening speed, given the lethargic pace of the last twenty years.

[elle]

Originally Posted by elle

yes, that was the point. Lindsey wanted new album out, same as now, since he wanted FM to stay relevant, show they still have something to say. when he couldn't get everybody in the band on that page, he wanted to have at least some new music out. his intentions seemed crystal clear from his little speech introducing Sad Angel during the tour. my suspicion is that EP ended undercooked and half-hearted effort because the whole band (managers too?) was not completely on board. other than various fan speculations, there is really nothing to tell us the whole band will be on board for the upcoming album, yet, either.

forgot another thing - the new music FM was originally planning to put out right before 2013 tour was supposed to be just a 2 song download - Sad Angel and Miss Fantasy were the songs we were hearing about from the band at the time.

then all of the sudden right before the tour started, at the last minute they decided to go with the EP instead, and add a BN/SN song for which they went back and forth whether should be put out as a BN or FM song. so it seems that when they were recorded, those 3 songs were not supposed to go on the same release.

why the decision to put out an EP and why 4 songs instead of 2, whether that was the compromise of different band members or different managers pulling each to a different side or a result of something else, is anybody's guess. and as i said above, does not seem very clear at all that something like that will not happen again when the time [finally] comes to put out a whole album.

also, although that should be pretty clear, when talking about "on board" i'm talking about really, enthusiastically in, as opposed to being dragged into the project and agreeing halfheartedly. you know, being happy about it "like a pig in the poo" or whatever Christine said.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by elle

then all of the sudden right before the tour started, at the last minute they decided to go with the EP instead, and add a BN/SN song for which they went back and forth whether should be put out as a BN or FM song. so it seems that when they were recorded, those 3 songs were not supposed to go on the same release.

I don't believe Stevie and Lindsey ever went back and forth to discuss whether a song should be released as a Buckingham Nicks song or a Fleetwood Mac song.

Is this your own assumption? The Buckingham Nicks brand has been defunct since 1974! That wasn't the issue at all.

The band was launching their second tour without any new music. Not sure of the accurate motivation, but Lindsey took the initiative to write a few new songs. Stevie was largely absent from the process.

Eventually she showed up to sing on Sad Angel. Wanting to be represented on the EP, instead of bringing a new song, she reached into her so called vault via the internet. Of course this half-ass version pales in comparison to the original demo.

[cactusjack]

Originally Posted by sorcerer999

I
3. "Imperial Hotel" just barely got into the Top 100 charts in Australia, peaking at #99.

rock on Australia!

[James89]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I just read today that at 57,000 copies sold in its first week, Mariah Carey's new album is considered a flop. If she can't have success, FM's chances are pretty slim.

Let's not forget that Stevie's solo album sold over 52,000 copies in the first week of sale just 3 years ago and has since sold approximately 200,000 copies. Also, the music business has not changed very much since then. The FM album will hopefully be heavily promoted and will hopefully have a similar success that we saw previously with 'The Dance'. It obviously won't sell 5 million copies like 'The Dance' did, but it should eventually sell above 300,000 in the U.S. and having been a follower of the U.K charts for some time now, it will definitely sell well there as in the last year they haven't had a week where they haven't had an album within the top 100 which is not really seen with any other artists. I predict a #1 placing in the U.K. and a top 3 placing in the U.S. depending on the release date and the success of the tour and Stevie's album. If there is good promotion and Stevie's album does well (top 10) I have no doubt that it would make the #1 spot in the U.S.

[BlueLight]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Lindsey stated that, after the tour, they're going to go back into the studio -- with Stevie -- to finish the album.

That came directly from the horse's mouth, so I believe we can all rest assured that it's more than just fan speculation that the whole band is on board.

Dave Stewart also posted on Facebook that Stevie is on board.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by elle

also, although that should be pretty clear, when talking about "on board" i'm talking about really, enthusiastically in, as opposed to being dragged into the project and agreeing halfheartedly. you know, being happy about it "like a pig in the poo" or whatever Christine said.

In the same interview I referenced above, Lindsey also said (in regards to finishing this tour, finishing the album and then touring again), "So it becomes sort of a long-term plan, so we're all very excited about that."

He didn't say a few of them. He didn't say some of them. He said they are all excited.

Stevie may have been reluctant to record as a foursome, but we really have no reason to assume she's still reluctant now that Christine is back.

As PenguinHead pointed out, Christine re-joining seems to have come as a surprise to all of them. And Lindsey's comments (as well as comments from both Mick & Christine) imply that this is not just going to be a one-off reunion. They have longterm plans.

So it seems that Stevie had solo obligations she needed to focus on this year, in order to make herself available for everything else that's still to come with Fleetwood Mac. I think the way '24 Karat Gold' was fast-tracked, is a good example that she's committed to doing that.

[BlueLight]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

In the same interview I referenced above, Lindsey also said (in regards to finishing this tour, finishing the album and then touring again), "So it becomes sort of a long-term plan, so we're all very excited about that."

He didn't say a few of them. He didn't say some of them. He said they are all excited.

Stevie may have been reluctant to record as a foursome, but we really have no reason to assume she's still reluctant now that Christine is back.

As PenguinHead pointed out, Christine re-joining seems to have come as a surprise to all of them. And Lindsey's comments (as well as comments from both Mick & Christine) imply that this is not just going to be a one-off reunion. They have longterm plans.

So it seems that Stevie had solo obligations she needed to focus on this year, in order to make herself available for everything else that's still to come with Fleetwood Mac. I think the way '24 Karat Gold' was fast-tracked, is a good example that she's committed to doing that.

Agreed. I see no reason why Stevie would fast-track 24 Karat Gold if she were not planning a long-term commitment to Fleetwood Mac over the next several years.

[gssmith]

Did anyone see rolling stone magazine list of top 10 duets? Stop dragging my heart around #2. Leather and lace #3.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by gssmith

Did anyone see rolling stone magazine list of top 10 duets? Stop dragging my heart around #2. Leather and lace #3.

Is this new? Could u link it?

[atlnightbird]

Silver Springs number 41 according to Billboard....I have the Joel Whitburn book

[gssmith]

http://entertainment.ie/music/news/T...r-1/265119.htm

[James89]

Why are people saying that 'Silver Springs' reached #41 on the Hot 100? It only ever reached #5 on the 'Adult Contemporary' chart and #22 on the 'Adult Pop Songs' chart. That is on Billboard.com so that should be accurate. If somebody thinks that it did, please provide evidence because I am very interested in chart info.

[elle]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

I don't believe Stevie and Lindsey ever went back and forth to discuss whether a song should be released as a Buckingham Nicks song or a Fleetwood Mac song.

yeah, i don't necessarily believe it either, but that's what they said at the time, in some of their interviews . if you want to know more i'm sure you can find that info by some googling or a search here.

anyway, it's interesting to see this old chart info of their more recent releases. i do hope you and all the optimists here are right, and we will get a nice coherent FM album some time soon, with all band members firmly behind it.

personally, i choose to set my expectations low, which means i will probably in the end be happier with the results than most of you. (same as i love many of the SYW and EP tracks, and that's enough for me. ) from all we know so far, there will probably be at least 2 if not 3 different producers involved in the new album, for tracks recordings spread over at least 2-3 years - Mitchell Froom for Lindsey's 2012 tracks, Lindsey for Christine's tracks they worked on March-April 2014, and we have no idea who will produce Stevie's tracks. so i don't see any indication that the new album will be any more cohesive than the albums people are so critical of - SYW or EP, both of which were recorded in several separate sessions, with several different producers.