Ann & Nancy Couldn't Match Stevie's Intake

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

Someone just tweeted this, I'm assuming that they're at the convo.

"Stevie Nicks prefers that Heart (Ann & Nancy Wilson) did not include her in their book."

oh snap

Oooh la la.

Michele

[skuncles]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

Someone just tweeted this, I'm assuming that they're at the convo.

"Stevie Nicks prefers that Heart (Ann & Nancy Wilson) did not include her in their book."

oh snap

Wonder where she said this. Seems odd that all of a sudden she's going to try and downplay her drug past. It's not like the book says that Stevie was a mess and an embarrassment, they just tell of hanging out with her, getting high and trying on clothes.

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by QueenStevie

Why do they have to say that they couldn't keep up with Stevie's voracious appetite for various substances, or drugs? That just makes Ann and Nancy look as if they're trying to make themselves look better by putting another person down.

Idk, I think it depends on how the book tells the story. The person who wrote the article made it seem as if Ann and Nancy were randomly saying in the book that she did WAY MORE cocaine than them, but there must be a longer story attached to it. I haven't read the book, but I could just see them telling the story about they night they spent trying on Stevie's stuff and doing so much coke that they had never been that high before and then a reporter turns that into Ann and Nancy couldn't keep up with Stevie's drug habit! I just can't see either of them randomly bringing up Stevie's drug use to make them look better. But who knows! Maybe kak125 will post the story from the book!

[skuncles]

I actually just read the Stevie part in the book last night. In the passage in the book they are talking about how wild things got in the mid to late 80's and how coke was everywhere. They say how everyone in the band was doing their share of drugs and alcohol. Ann says that no one in the band did anything until after the show. She says that she was doing more drinking and coke than others in the band, then she tells the Stevie story.

[michelej1]

From an interview with Ann Wilson from a Nuvo interview by Katherine Coplen July 27, 2013

http://www.nuvo.net/indianapolis/hea...nt?oid=2642027

Of course, that didn't exactly stop the partying. Ann - who has been upfront about her struggles with addiction - wrote of a night of excess with Stevie Nicks, who didn't take kindly to the name-check.

"Stevie Nicks turned out to be pretty grumpy about our party night together," Ann says. "We just put it in there because it wasn't anything, really. It was just a pretty typical party night in the '80s that rockers would have. But she was pretty sensitive, so perhaps we should have spared her."

Ann may have spared the Nicks story, but she certainly wouldn't un-write the whole book, which she describes as "cathartic" to pen.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by michelej1

From an interview with Ann Wilson from a Nuvo interview by Katherine Coplen July 27, 2013

http://www.nuvo.net/indianapolis/hea...nt?oid=2642027

Of course, that didn't exactly stop the partying. Ann - who has been upfront about her struggles with addiction - wrote of a night of excess with Stevie Nicks, who didn't take kindly to the name-check.

"Stevie Nicks turned out to be pretty grumpy about our party night together," Ann says. "We just put it in there because it wasn't anything, really. It was just a pretty typical party night in the '80s that rockers would have. But she was pretty sensitive, so perhaps we should have spared her."

Ann may have spared the Nicks story, but she certainly wouldn't un-write the whole book, which she describes as "cathartic" to pen.

I was thinking about this the other day and wondered if the air had been cleared.

[becca]

I think of Dreamboat Annie as equally important to the 1975 Fleetwood Mac album, then and now. How strange the two sides of the same coin would be scratching away about next to nothing. Magic Man, Crazy On You, Over My Head and Rhiannon were all over the radio here circa 1975-76 onward. Is Olivia Newton John going to start something with Pat Benetar next? Debbie Harry rip Joan Jett a new one?

My boyfriend (accidentally) got to see Nancy in the raw once; really hard to imagine her fitting into anything Stevie had on the hanger.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by michelej1

From an interview with Ann Wilson from a Nuvo interview by Katherine Coplen July 27, 2013

http://www.nuvo.net/indianapolis/hea...nt?oid=2642027

Of course, that didn't exactly stop the partying. Ann - who has been upfront about her struggles with addiction - wrote of a night of excess with Stevie Nicks, who didn't take kindly to the name-check.

"Stevie Nicks turned out to be pretty grumpy about our party night together," Ann says. "We just put it in there because it wasn't anything, really. It was just a pretty typical party night in the '80s that rockers would have. But she was pretty sensitive, so perhaps we should have spared her."

Ann may have spared the Nicks story, but she certainly wouldn't un-write the whole book, which she describes as "cathartic" to pen.

Really? I think Stevie needs to get over it. We all know she did it, there's nothing really new in the story except maybe it's a bit more detailed and specific than what she would ever have told us. She's just a real control freak over her image and she wants NOTHING out there other than what she chooses to say. She is soooooooooooooooooo lucky that this is not 1978 now, because with all the social media and paparazzi etc etc she would not get away with even a fraction of the partying and man-izing (opposite of womanizing?) she did. There'd be pics of her sloshed out of her head, smudged makeup, falling out of a car, whatever.
Love her, but really, get over it.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

man-izing (opposite of womanizing?)

Speaking of that, with Mick Jagger's birthday and the Stones' being on tour and everything, there are a lot of articles about them recently and it's mindboggling not only how many women he's been with (well he's had kids with more women than most men even sleep with) but how many of those women also slept with not one, but TWO of his bandmates. Why do people even talk about FM as a band with a lot of sex in it when they can't even compare to the Stones? Probably all 16 members of FM combined haven't done 20% of the sleeping around and changing partners that the Stones have done.

Michele

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Speaking of that, with Mick Jagger's birthday and the Stones' being on tour and everything, there are a lot of articles about them recently and it's mindboggling not only how many women he's been with (well he's had kids with more women than most men even sleep with) but how many of those women also slept with not one, but TWO of his bandmates. Why do people even talk about FM as a band with a lot of sex in it when they can't even compare to the Stones? Probably all 16 members of FM combined haven't done 20% of the sleeping around and changing partners that the Stones have done.

Michele

So right on! In many ways, Fleetwood Mac, in comparison, come off a bit stuffy and conservative!

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

So right on! In many ways, Fleetwood Mac, in comparison, come off a bit stuffy and conservative!

well, maybe based on what we know............. I'm still convinced there is sooo much more REAL dirt we have no clue about.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Speaking of that, with Mick Jagger's birthday and the Stones' being on tour and everything, there are a lot of articles about them recently and it's mindboggling not only how many women he's been with (well he's had kids with more women than most men even sleep with) but how many of those women also slept with not one, but TWO of his bandmates. Why do people even talk about FM as a band with a lot of sex in it when they can't even compare to the Stones? Probably all 16 members of FM combined haven't done 20% of the sleeping around and changing partners that the Stones have done.

Michele

Not to mention Led Zeppelin, Motley Crue and plenty of other mansluts.

[mannymanny]

I absolutely love Heart and Stevie, so for me it's always thrilling to read they have crossed paths at some point in their careers. Its a shame that the other times Ann and Nancy met Stevie have not been mentioned in the book,... like how Grace Slick and Stevie went to see Heart live in concert in 1985 and got up on stage to provide backup vocals to Heart's "What About Love". Or when Stevie met up with Ann and Nancy after a Heart concert in the early 1980s (1981 i think) and went back to Ann's rental house and they jammed all night, and Ann, upon seeing Nancy and Stevie sat on the couch together, was inspired to pen the song title "Bright Light Girl" (from Heart's Private Audition album), because Ann commented on how ethereal and bright Nancy and Stevie looked while sitting together (both being "bright" blonde).

Ann and Nancy met Stevie, they were both sharing each other's time and therefore Ann and Nancy can write about their time, and if Stevie says they weren't best friends then i'm sure Stevie wouldnt' have done anything "private/secretive" in front of them. Life is about the people you meet, and the experiences you have, and if you ever had to write a autobiography, wouldn't you want to include the fact you met Stevie and saw all those legendary lamps around her gorgeous house and tried on her shawls!? lol! ...i'm sure not everyone has that opportunity!!

Autobiographies always mention other people living or deceased- theres no way of escaping billions of people in the world all your life..you're bound to meet a few haha, and if you're going to mention other people in your book then you'd mention what you did together! I think the book was enjoyable and tastefully done. But each to their own!

[Jondalar]

Well I just got Ann and Nancy Wilson's book Kicking and Dreaming on audiobook and I have to say it's pretty terrific. If you get the audible version, everyone who has something to tell reads their own part like Sue Ennis and Roger Fisher. Ann Wilson is a terrific reader. She just has a great voice.

I don't think Heart should of mentioned Stevie in their book. They made a few digs: First, Stevie's house was a shrine to Stevie Nicks because she filled it with pictures of herself. Second, that compared to Stevie and Fleetwood Mac, Heart didn't have a very bad drug problem. Also, Stevie had a system to take as many drugs as possible and they also sort of made Stevie out to be a Heart groupie. The whole thing is in bad taste. Stevie should be angry but love the book.

[louielouie2000]

I don't know- it just sounds honest to me. Stevie was a mess back then. It's pretty well documented that she had some ego issues. Arguably still does to this day. And we all know how graphic Stevie herself has been about her cocaine use. She said in her 20/20 Downtown interview that she snorted coke every 15 minutes. That's pretty damned prodigious. Stevie has gone on record that she wishes Heart had not included her in their book. Which is just a bit odd to me. She's pretty much admitted all of these things about herself countless times before. I guess she just prefers to be the one talking about it.

Now if we're on the subject of people airing Stevie's dirty laundry, I can think of a couple of people who did overstep the line. Don Henley writing about Stevie's aborting their child, and Joe Walsh telling Howard Stern that he must have ****ed Stevie "a million billion times." Both of those instances were pretty tasteless.