Why have "Tusk" and "So Afraid" gotten the old man treatment? - Page 2

Lindsfan · #16 10-25-2011, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

I love the new spin on ISA!! It's amazing!!

Agreed! I loved the guitar during '09 FM tour, but he couldn't sing it. This is perfect now! And hey, any time Lindsey sings lower, it's a wonderful thing IMO.

iamnotafraid · #17 10-25-2011, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon

I could swear that The Dance version of Landslide is capo'ed on the 3rd fret

I think so too.

That's the way I play it on my guitar
when I'm listening to The Dance.

CADreaming · #18 10-25-2011, 06:55 AM

I don't know why lowering the key surprises any of you musicians. Y'all know people cannot sing in the same key when they are older. And, if there are people in their 60's still singing in the same key as they did in their 20's, then they probably NEED to lower it...

bluefox4000 · #19 10-25-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

I don't know why lowering the key surprises any of you musicians. Y'all know people cannot sing in the same key when they are older. And, if there are people in their 60's still singing in the same key as they did in their 20's, then they probably NEED to lower it...

Beat me to it. Everybody's voice changes....it's life.

Mick

WildHearted · #20 10-25-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

I think so too.

That's the way I play it on my guitar
when I'm listening to The Dance.

That's how I play it too. Same for when I listen to the White album version.

chiliD · #21 10-25-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon

I could swear that The Dance version of Landslide is capo'ed on the 3rd fret

I could've miscounted or "misremembered".

Hell, I'm old, too.

clooney · #22 10-25-2011, 11:50 PM

I've been curious about a component of his changed renditions. The sound of the guitar on I'm So Afraid in the 1980 Tusk tour (appearing on both the 1980 live album and the 1992 box set), the Mirage Tour, Out of the Cradle Tour and through The Dance sounds different than today. With the most recent live versions, the guitar during the ISA solos sounds like he is playing two strings at once for each note, or maybe it is an echo effect...? I'm sorry, I don't play guitar myself so I don't know how best to describe it, but does anyone know what I mean? Is it a pedal he is using to achieve that sound maybe?
Thanks.

**mylittledemon** · #23 10-26-2011, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

I could've miscounted or "misremembered".

Hell, I'm old, too.

LOL... That's okay. Seeing as how you're not a fan of the post-75 material I won't hold you to the standard I put on your pre-75 knowledge

Spoinny · #24 10-26-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

Off topic but littleD I watched another one of
you videos on YouTube. Good job brother.
Next time wear the Bat Mask!

Whats LD's youtube name? I wanna check it out.

TrueFaith77 · #25 10-26-2011, 03:07 PM

I'm not good at this sort of thing--I did not notice a Tusk or ISA difference on this tour. How is it different than the last 4 tours?

iamnotafraid · #26 10-27-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

How is Tusk different than the last 4 tours?

It doesn't make you want
to kill yourself this time out.
At least that's what I've been
told.

Spoinny,
LittleD's name on YouTube is
something like "PonyBoy..."
Can't remember exactly.

Spoinny · #27 10-28-2011, 10:52 AM

sounds the same. The best solo version was circa "Out of the Cradle" on VH1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7HNEoNmzoU

HejiraNYC · #28 10-28-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

I don't know why lowering the key surprises any of you musicians. Y'all know people cannot sing in the same key when they are older. And, if there are people in their 60's still singing in the same key as they did in their 20's, then they probably NEED to lower it...

Stevie doesn't lower any keys... at least on the current tour. If anything, "For What It's Worth" has been pushed way up at least a full step or two higher. Same with "In Your Dreams" the two times she performed it live. I think lowering keys is tantamount to giving up on life for a singer. It is just one more acknowledgment that time is marching on and it is one more concession to age. I personally dread the thought of waking up one morning and realizing, OMG, I'm too old to _____ anymore.

Admittedly, Stevie should have lowered the key of "Don't Stop" at Bill Clinton's birthday celebration. But I love the fact that she is trying to keep it original.

WildHearted · #29 10-28-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Stevie doesn't lower any keys... at least on the current tour. If anything, "For What It's Worth" has been pushed way up at least a full step or two higher. Same with "In Your Dreams" the two times she performed it live. I think lowering keys is tantamount to giving up on life for a singer. It is just one more acknowledgment that time is marching on and it is one more concession to age. I personally dread the thought of waking up one morning and realizing, OMG, I'm too old to _____ anymore.

Admittedly, Stevie should have lowered the key of "Don't Stop" at Bill Clinton's birthday celebration. But I love the fact that she is trying to keep it original.

As a musician (though I don't claim to be a great one..), I don't see anything wrong with lowering keys, at all. What's more important: your pride, or the actual quality of your performance?

If you legitimately cannot sing something in a certain key anymore, due to age or illness or what have you, by all means, take it to a place more comfortable for your range. It's not that big of a deal. In choir, some a capella pieces are very hard to sing in a certain key without going flat or sharp collectively on a certain day or time in certain weather

, for whatever reason, but lowering it or raising it a half step can make all the difference in the world as far as staying in tune goes. We used to do that all the time before concerts - if we practiced it and something was off, we'd take it up or down a half step and voila, everything would be perfect. It's just part of the game.

Luckily for Stevie, she does a pretty good job of adjusting the songs (ie, Rhiannon, Dreams, etc, etc) in their original keys to where she can still sing them, for the most part. It's also worth mentioning that I think Stevie can and actually does sing a lot higher than it sometimes seems like and than people give her credit for, if that makes sense, depending on the way she sings.

But if she ever lowered a key a step or two I wouldn't hold it against her. It's life. Everyone's getting older, and I give props to the ones who accept it with grace and dignity instead of sacrificing all of that for the sake of their pride.