The Uncirculated Rumours Project

[mikebise]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

I also have this collection.I got it from a seller out of the Goldmine collectable magazine around 1993.way before Ebay.Thanks for uploading them.

Yay! I will finish uploading tomorrow, and most of those are from the Master Reels or Maureen's Mystery Box.

I'm still hoping someone has digital files of those vinyl versions of "Maker Of the Birds" and "Forest Of The Black Roses" because they sound so much better than the fuzzy files we ALL have and share over and over.

[mikebise]

Originally Posted by Aussie W/Heart

Thanks Mike, Ive just d/loaded Julia & Forsaken Love, so much appreciated as i lost a lot of Stevie's gems due to my old computer crashing one of my favorites Forest Of The Black Roses is still missing, so would it be possible for you to add both 1 & 2 versions.. Thanks in advance

I want those, too! Like I said above, I have the vinyl for this collection, but no way to play it or transfer it. And I've never heard that second version of "Forest Of the Black Roses" anywhere else but on the Uncirculated Rumours vinyl. I find that same Version 1 over and over, and muffled sounding. So, hopefully, one of our friends will come through for us and post the vinyl versions here.

I will be uploading "Maker Of The Birds" and the first "Forest Of the Black Roses" tomorrow, but I would still like to see if someone actually has the vinyl versions to post, because I only have the 1998 "remastered" copies from Maureen Loftus. These vinyl versions sounded so much better. As proof of my memories, I spent a half hour this morning going through the endless copies I have of the same "Silver Springs" piano demo. The one that clearly sounded the best was from Uncirculated Rumours; you can even hear a vinyl "pop" in it once.

So, I'm sure someone has the vinyl for those other 2 songs. Please?

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by mikebise

Yay! I will finish uploading tomorrow, and most of those are from the Master Reels or Maureen's Mystery Box.

I'm still hoping someone has digital files of those vinyl versions of "Maker Of the Birds" and "Forest Of The Black Roses" because they sound so much better than the fuzzy files we ALL have and share over and over.

Ok Mike thank you.I got to get out the ole crank turntable and transfer some of these plus give The Source radio show the I received from Ebay a while ago.The stuff is still packed away since I moved over here year in a half ago.

[Aussie W/Heart]

Well that should teach me not to speed read, sorry my bad. lol.. lets hope version 2 turns up, although I'd be really happy if i had the only version out there of FOTBR.. i have looked in the demo thread, could not find it

[mikebise]

Mediafire has crapped out on me tonight, not letting me upload; probably too many people on all over the world? Cosmic rays??

Anyway, I will continue uploading in the morning, and "Forest Of The Black Roses" and "Maker Of The Birds" will be first. But, Stevie Fans out there: post yours if they are better!

I DID find the version of "Smile At You" that is on Uncirculated Rumours! Of course, it's not on the Master Reels. Like I detailed above, the versions on the Master Reels are either edited or, if longer, Stevie sings the same verse twice, omitting the "I am older now but I still remember" lyrics, which is a shame. But I found a very good version that is the same content as on Uncirculated Rumours, but better sounding. Not perfect like the Masters, but better, and totally fitting for this project! Source is the Maureen Loftus CD from 1999: Mirror Ball.

[Aussie W/Heart]

Cool!!! Thanks Mike..

[jeffd8382]

Originally Posted by mikebise

Mediafire has crapped out on me tonight, not letting me upload; probably too many people on all over the world? Cosmic rays??

Oh no... the dreaded Mediafire problem! Mike, one thing I have found that has helped on a couple occasions when I couldn't upload is to try updating the Adobe flash player. It should always remain updated for me, but doing it manually a couple of times has seemed to have worked anyway.

[Brad]

Here's the versions of Forest of the Black Roses and Three Birds of Rhiannon (at least this is what it's called on mine, maybe the real name is Maker of the Birds).

They're from a CD called China Doll Demos that I got in the late 90's, either from a trader here on the Ledge (Regina maybe?) or maybe Marty himself when there was still a trading/buying page.

I haven't heard any of the other versions, but I think I can hear the "pops" of vinyl on here and can't really imagine there being better quality of these out there, but who knows. So, sorry if they're not what you're looking for.

Three Birds:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/5g7ba3...20Rhiannon.mp3

Forest:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2d6p9v...ck%20Roses.mp3

Let me know if it's what you need.

Brad

[Brad]

I'm a little confused on exactly which Smile At You you're looking for.

This one I have labeled as "Tusk demo." It doesn't repeat the first verse, and the chorus sounds complete to the end. The quality is a little muffled but definitely listenable.

Smile At You (Tusk)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/pnw8w8...%28Tusk%29.mp3

I'm not sure if it's needed, but I have labeled as "Mirage Angry" where she repeats the "flaming" stuff over and over at the end.

Smile At You (Mirage angry)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/82yycj...ngry%20Ver.mp3

And as an added bonus, here's a very high quality piano only version (labeled as a capella) where she talks a little at the end.

Smile At You (Piano)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/9qa21f...Capella%29.mp3

Hope these help. If I'm not "getting" what the purpose of the thread is, just tell me to shut up.

Brad

[mikebise]

Brad, you are contributing exactly as I had hoped~ thank you! The China Doll compilation was put out by Maureen Loftus in 1998, when she was getting all kinds of Stevie rarities from a guy who was working with Mick on a Fleetwood Mac rarities collection which never came out/got completed (it was supposed to be ready by Late 1998 for Fleetwood Mac's 30th Anniversary).

Maureen would take 4 or 5 of her new rarities and put them on a CD with several older, well-circulated demos/outtakes to fill up each CD, and then sell the CDs. This is where many, many of the unreleased songs we have of Stevie's were unleashed, through Maureen's selling/trading them in 1997-2001 or so.

"Maker Of The Birds" (the copyrighted true title of the song) and "Forest Of The Black Roses" were "remastered" by Maureen and put on China Doll, and the results are a LOT better than I remembered!!! Thank you for sharing!!!

So, there is a second "softer" take of "Forest Of The Black Roses" on Uncirculated Rumours. Does anyone have it?

(I will DL the "Smile At You"s in a bit~ THANKS AGAIN, BRAD!!!)

[KarmaContestant]

Wow, Mike - what a nice thing to log on and see after the long weekend. I'll have to go over this thread again when I get home and see what I can add to help this project.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by mikebise

Brad, you are contributing exactly as I had hoped~ thank you! The China Doll compilation was put out by Maureen Loftus in 1998, when she was getting all kinds of Stevie rarities from a guy who was working with Mick on a Fleetwood Mac rarities collection which never came out/got completed (it was supposed to be ready by Late 1998 for Fleetwood Mac's 30th Anniversary).

Maureen would take 4 or 5 of her new rarities and put them on a CD with several older, well-circulated demos/outtakes to fill up each CD, and then sell the CDs. This is where many, many of the unreleased songs we have of Stevie's were unleashed, through Maureen's selling/trading them in 1997-2001 or so.

"Maker Of The Birds" (the copyrighted true title of the song) and "Forest Of The Black Roses" were "remastered" by Maureen and put on China Doll, and the results are a LOT better than I remembered!!! Thank you for sharing!!!

So, there is a second "softer" take of "Forest Of The Black Roses" on Uncirculated Rumours. Does anyone have it?

(I will DL the "Smile At You"s in a bit~ THANKS AGAIN, BRAD!!!)

No problem. I'll look at your list again and see if there's any I have that you still need.

Brad

[mikebise]

It's been fun, Mathew!

The best thing is that it's forced me to go back and re-import all of my Stevie CDs, including the Master Reels and Maureen's Mystery Box CDs, to improve losslessness. In doing so, I've found a few upgrades I forgot about, and also now they are truly lossless, and not condensed into mp3s (as they were when I imported most everything in 2005).

I just went back and changed the links on "Sleeping Angel", "After The Glitter Fades", and "Leather And Lace", because I found the Master Demos Reel 01/08/1980 CD that they were from, and the quality is astounding!

Right now I'm uploading "Kind Of Woman" from that same Reel, and also "Blue Water" from the Rhiannon 2-Track Master Reel.

Edit: Both "Blue Water" and "Kind Of Woman" are new links.

[mikebise]

Okay, I put in two versions of "If You Ever Did Believe" since I did not remember which version is on Uncirculated Rumours. However, both of these are far superiour in sound quality to what was on that LP.

So, I did not put on a second "Forest Of The Black Roses" ~ since I don't have it digitized!

And I did not put on "Violet And Blue", because it was merely the commercially released soundtrack version, which is available on Enchanted, iTunes, etc.

[mikebise]

Oh, what the Hell! I put the unreleased outtake of "Violet And Blue" at the end of the collection, since I wasn't going to post the commercially available soundtrack recording which was actually on Uncirculated Rumours in 1988.

This version can be heard in the film Against All Odds, and I uploaded it from one of Maureen Loftus' various Mystery Box CDs.