Pissed off Stevie interview; Can't believe I've never seen this

[skuncles]

Although I understand Stevie's point, I've always felt she over-reacted. Mick took the heat, but it was the record label that wouldn't give her the song. Here's the deal, she was working on her solo hits collection, at the same time Warner Bros. was working on "The Chain", one of the big selling points of the collection would be "Silver Springs", had Stevie released it on "TimeSpace" it would have taken the wind out the sail for "The Chain". Although today the song is all over the place, back in 1992 "Springs" was still a very hard song to find anywhere. The only place you could find it was the original vinyl release from 1976 and the 1988 jukebox vinyl single (backed with "Don't Stop"). Putting it on "The Chain" marked it's debut on CD. Speaking only for myself, the day I walked into the record store in 1992 and saw "The Chain" boxed set and saw that "Silver Springs" was on there, I went right over to the ATM and withdrew $85 so I could buy the set. I had long since worn out my vinyl copies of the song and couldn't wait to get it on CD.
It was the record label Stevie should have been mad at. Mick was just the middle man. In the end though history played out the way it should have. Going back to getting the boot from "Rumours" up thru 1992, the song ended up becoming legendary.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan

The attached photo was caught on a security cam years ago when Stevie claimed she was at Betty Ford, which she wasn't. It was a perfectly executed cover story.
Most drummers have been replaced by drum machines anyway, so it's really not such a stretch.
I think my next thread is Stevie Conspiracy Theories.

ROFLOL!!!

Well, that explains this...it was "rumoured" that Stevie allowed Lindsey exclusive engineering rights to program Mick-bot. Here Dr. Lindsey and Mr. Buckingham permits a bemused John to view his handiwork thus far...

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by David

Here's part of what she said on TV & in the press:

"I said if you don't give me back my song, then I won't write two new songs for your new record. So that's where it stands right now. He won't talk to me about it."

"Right now I'm not very happy with Mick, & it's over a pretty serious thing."

"I can't believe he's stupid enough to break this band up for a song he dumped in the garbage can. I have always loved Mick, & I have always done everything I could to keep him going. It's a pretty sad way to end Fleetwood Mac. This is going to be a shock to the rest of the band when they see the stupidity of Mick's decision. It has nothing to do with all the other things we could have broken up over. I didn't even get mad at him about his book."

"I'm in the middle of a very big fight with Mick. This is all so underhanded. I called him on Friday & said, 'If I don't have that tape of Silver Springs by Monday, I'm out.' He had three days & didn't deliver."

"It's not going to happen (record with the group in the future). The story's already all over, so there's no reason for me to really go into it. It all stems down to an argument between me & Mr. Fleetwood. And that's down to the fact that he would not return to me a song that he dumped in the can 14 years ago, slapped on the back of a single & was never heard from again. I wanted to put it on Timespace because it belongs to my mom, & he said, 'Over my dead body.' And I said, 'Well, you just broke the camel's back.' So I won't be involved any more."

"I have told the world what a vile thing it was that Mick Fleetwood had done to me, who has fought like a dog for 15 years to keep this band from breaking up. I don't really know what's going through Mick's mind. He never returned a phone call, & he never felt it was his duty to sit down & write a letter to tell me why. He has always been the boss of the group. He has always made all the decisions. And he has always made them without asking anyone else. So he had no reason to do this to us -- to break up the whole band."

And my favorite: "Because he...does...not...know...who he's up against!" (Said with emotion breaking through the Klonopin).

- Jake

[UndoingTheLaces]

I have a very washed out vhs copy of this interview. There's a part where she's talking about Mick's book and it always makes me giggle. They ask her if she's read it and she said something like, "No... I don't have to read it. I lived it... If I read it I'd have to sit there with a big red pen circling things going 'spelled wrong... didn't happen... big lie'".

[Nikolaj]

[QUOTE=GoldDustOrphan;740684]http://youtube.com/watch?v=nxPRn5UKbrg

I can't believe I've never seen this before.


It MUST be a Ledgie we all have to thank, but it seems many of you don't know there is a TWENTY NINE MINUTE version of this same interview, and it's fierce. Personally, i think she looks beautiful, but definitely sad, yet she also has moments of the Nicksian humor we love... and the way the interview ends abruptly is pretty fascinating, as she'd been talking for nearly half an hour. It's eye-opening to watch the whole thing- the guy who posted it (time is 28:55, so i exagerrated by 5 seconds) is named priestofnothing which i am certain is also a Ledgie's moniker-- after you watch the 29 minutes, check out his plethora of Stevie rarities, like a very long and unedited 1998 interview Stevie did with Sandra Bernhardt, i think it runs about 18 minutes. Tons of amazing stuff, i had never heard of Veoh, but here it is, and quality matches or tops YouTube- i didnt even have to install anything to watch all these amazing clips, and if PriestofNothing IS here on The Ledge, thank you, thank you- be sure to check out all the rare concert performances he has on there too- here's the unedited interview this thread is about:

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v326301s7...2481771&rank=0

[petep9000]

Of course he is. He's a lovely person...

[QUOTE=Nikolaj;740766]

Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nxPRn5UKbrg

I can't believe I've never seen this before.

It MUST be a Ledgie we all have to thank, the guy who posted it (time is 28:55, so i exagerrated by 5 seconds) is named priestofnothing and if PriestofNothing IS here on The Ledge, thank you, thank you-

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by blackroses

Hi everyone

I'm new here and since there doesn't seem to be an introduction area, I think I'll just jump right in. I saw this interview quite some time ago. Her feelings on the matter are certainly understandable, and for whatever reason, she chose to air it publicly. I'm not sure if that was a good decision, but nevertheless, she did it. Being on tranquilizers could have had something to do with that...I don't know. She often wears her feelings on her sleeve like this. I suppose it was cathartic for her to get it out.

Aside from what she was discussing, what GoldDustOrphan said made me smile, because when I first saw this video, I was startled by her appearance...not because she doesn't look good (she always looks great), but because of the huge bow or floral thing in her hair, and those gigantic earrings (I know...it was the style then, but whoa). It also looks like she's wearing a huge wig. It's all a bit much for my eye. She looks just like a child's play doll to me (or yes, a jelly donut ), but I suppose that is part of what is so intriguing about her. She's always beautiful, even in some outrageous costume. I love the dress, but could have done without the rest of it. Just a bit too gaudy for my taste.

Hey and welcome to the Ledge!!

[GoldDustOrphan]

No one seems concerned that Stevie has been replacing her band-mates - and possibly other musicians - with robots. Personally, I don't mind, but I don't want her to caught either.
"WAKE UP IN THE MORNING...RISE, MY CREATURE, RISE!"

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

while I think stevie had every right to be pissed (after all, it WAS her song...) I'm glad mick didn't give in. in 1991, Silver Springs would have never received the recognition it got in 1997. Stevie was a wreck at the time and i don't think even that song could have pulled her out.


thinks turned out exactly as they were supposed to imo of course.

i think she was more interested in the $$$ going to her mom. i don't think that would have interfered with them performing it for the dance, or the impact it would have had.

[Remy]

Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

I have a very washed out vhs copy of this interview. There's a part where she's talking about Mick's book and it always makes me giggle. They ask her if she's read it and she said something like, "No... I don't have to read it. I lived it... If I read it I'd have to sit there with a big red pen circling things going 'spelled wrong... didn't happen... big lie'".

u guys are hilarious...
but, gotta love Stevie. she's like a female Don Corleone when she's mad. it's hard to find someone with that kIIIIIIIIIIII-IIIND of inten-suh-tayyyy!

[blackroses]

Originally Posted by Steviefan49

Hey and welcome to the Ledge!!

Thank you very much. I'm happy to be here.

After reading some of the comments, I have to agree that fate ultimately worked out more in her favor with Silver Springs. I just hope her mother got the money, as she had wanted.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by skuncles

Although I understand Stevie's point, I've always felt she over-reacted. Mick took the heat, but it was the record label that wouldn't give her the song. Here's the deal, she was working on her solo hits collection, at the same time Warner Bros. was working on "The Chain", one of the big selling points of the collection would be "Silver Springs", had Stevie released it on "TimeSpace" it would have taken the wind out the sail for "The Chain". Although today the song is all over the place, back in 1992 "Springs" was still a very hard song to find anywhere. The only place you could find it was the original vinyl release from 1976 and the 1988 jukebox vinyl single (backed with "Don't Stop"). Putting it on "The Chain" marked it's debut on CD. Speaking only for myself, the day I walked into the record store in 1992 and saw "The Chain" boxed set and saw that "Silver Springs" was on there, I went right over to the ATM and withdrew $85 so I could buy the set. I had long since worn out my vinyl copies of the song and couldn't wait to get it on CD.
It was the record label Stevie should have been mad at. Mick was just the middle man. In the end though history played out the way it should have. Going back to getting the boot from "Rumours" up thru 1992, the song ended up becoming legendary.

This is a great post. What you say makes perfect sense from, at least, an industry stand point.

Another irony: She claims to be really mad at Mick, yet one of her TimeSpace songs (The Wild Heart's Beauty and the Beast) is said to be inspired by and dedicated to him...strange.

[David]

From a grammar standpoint, the line:

Two children too blind to see

is interesting because it contains all three homophones -- the adjective, the adverb, & the infinitive marker (preposition).

As for "Silver Springs," Stevie isn't very clear. The whole War isn't very clear. But it does point up the difference (which I have emphasized here before) between "song" & "track." I assume Stevie wanted the Fleetwood Mac track for her solo album (because she called Dennis Dunstan & asked him to "deliver the tapes"), so naturally Fleetwood refused permission. The question is, Why didn't Stevie rerecord it? She could have done so.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0230322AAAo3Rm

Once the copyright owner of a musical composition records and distributes the work to the public, or allows another to do so, anyone that wishes to record and distribute that same work may do so without permission (subject to certain limitations) by issuing the copyright owner a notice of intention to obtain a compulsory license. The cover song is subject to a compulsory mechanical license which provides the copyright owner an automatic royalty payment for every recording created and sold.

The cover artist may negotiate with the copyright owner to secure better terms than what the compulsory license affords the cover artist. However, the copyright owner cannot disallow the cover artist from reproducing and distributing that work if the cover artist is willing to pay the compulsory license.

[GlennGlenn]

Ladies, it was all about control. Mick didn't get a piece of the action (i.e. $$$$$) and he and the label were going to have nothing to do with it. I recall Mike Campbell being pretty pissed at Stevie with SDMHA and how it was a hit and other TP songs were not. And so the feud in the BUSINESS of making music go on and on..............................................................

Come to think of it, has Mick ever done anything if there wasn't $$ in it for him???? Mick Wine, Mick DVD , McFryer, MickEnergy drink????

[GlennGlenn]

[QUOTE=David;741143]From a grammar standpoint, the line:

Two children too blind to see

is interesting because it contains all three homophones -- the adjective, the adverb, & the infinitive marker (preposition).

A The question is, Why didn't Stevie rerecord it? She could have done so.

I have the distinct feeling that Stevie doesn't own the song? Its either the label or Fleetwood Mac, Inc. (of which Mick is the President and CEO). Why didn't she ask John, he has some legal rights there too? Mick may have felt it was a FM song (or the label did?) and not a Stevie Nicks song and therefore refuse to let it go? Also, and once again, there was NO $$ in Time Space for Mick.